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<blockquote data-quote="temporal recon" data-source="post: 69033" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">CERN discovering Time Travel in 2001</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">CERN creating mini black holes</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Civil war starting in 2004 or 2008</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">A Waco type event every month growing steadily worse</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-size: 10px">No Olympics after 2004 -there has been 2 Winter Olympics and 2 Summer Olympics since then at the normal 4 year intervals</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Vodkafan, I'm a bit disappointed in your post. I expected a bit more from you. I do hope that your post was made out of simple ignorance of the Titor posts and contamination by Conventional Wisdom and not a purposeful attempt at weak debunking or propagating misinformation.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">I am also a bit surprised that the self styled "Titor Experts" on this site haven't disabused you of your misunderstanding. Since they haven't, I suppose I will take up the task. I do this not only for your benefit, but also as a buttress to the original purpose of <em>COATT;</em> to combat the longstanding misinformation, misapprehension and just lazy statements of purported "facts" by supposed experts.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> It appears to me that some are simply more apt to spout bad or false information for the aggrandizement of their egos rather than put in the hard work to actually make some true discoveries.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> Perhaps there may be someone here now or in the future reading these posts that might find this post helpful and inspire a second glance at the data?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">So, getting to your statements: </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">You start with:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"CERN discovering Time Travel in 2001"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Titor never claimed that CERN invented or discovered Time Travel as you mistakenly claim in your post. Specifically, John claimed:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #f4f4f4">As you can plainly see, John did <strong>not</strong> claim that CERN "discovers" time travel in 2001. Merely that the <u>basics</u> for its development happens there, in about a year (2001). As I am sure you and others reading these words know, scientific discovery is based on the discoveries of previous work. There is also much more to this statement that implies a great deal more than the scope of this post would allow, but suffice it to say for now that your statement that JT "predicted" that time travel was "discovered" at CERN is in error.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Your second statement was:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"CERN creating mini black holes"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Here, you are correct in stating that Titor claimed that CERN would create the <em>black holes</em> necessary for the operation of the machine, but let's also notice, he never made this "prediction" with an accompanying <u>date.</u> So to say that this is a failed prediction is false. A failed prediciton would mean that its' date had passed and nothing happened. Specifically, Titor made these two statements:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #f4f4f4">If you'll notice, he claimed that the <u>energy </u>used to power the machine is created at (what many take to be) CERN, he did not claim black holes in this statement.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">On the other hand, we have the following statement:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">In this statement, John <em>does </em>claim that the microsingularities are created at (what many take to be) CERN. But he never did say CERN, did he? I explore this quite a bit in <em>COATT</em> and discovered some very interesting things that led me to a new avenue of investigation. But this is out of scope for this post.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Again, Titor never presented this as a prediction (event + date) which later failed. And again, you are in error in claiming that this was a prediction that has failed. Are you implying now that CERN will <em>not</em> create black holes at their "circular facility" at some point in the future? I wonder how you are able to make this prediction? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Another statement you make is:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"Civil war starting in 2004 or 2008"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">You are likely referring to this statement here:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #f4f4f4">This is <u>one </u>example of a prediction, presented as a prediction (statement + date) that failed. As the other "failed prediction" made by Titor, this one is extremely interesting and is, technically, a "failed prediction," but "failed"<em> on purpose</em>. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"><span style="color: #f4f4f4">Because my post here and now is to merely demonstrate that there aren't "many" predictions that failed, but rather only two, I will not go into why this statement is so interesting (yet). Yes, I will go into it later, but not now.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Another of your statements:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"A Waco type event every month growing steadily worse"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">This is another example of a prediction without a date. Specifically, Titor said:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> Titor is a bit unclear in his statement here. He does not say that WACO type events will <u>begin</u> in year x. He makes two statements, one is about the civil war in 2004 and he makes a separate statement describing the waco-type events. It is <u>assumed</u> that the waco events he is describing is directly a result of, or cause for, the civil war in the US. This would be a fair assumption, but an <u>assumption</u>, nonetheless. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">There are two things here that we should remember:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">1) The waco type events, if directly tied to the civil war, would, by default, have to be a failed prediction merely by being directly associated with a known failed prediction (civil war in 2005). Separating them as you did is merely a rhetorical device in an attempt to create a longer list of failed predictions where one does not necessarily exist and</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">2) It has been wrongly assumed over the last 10 years that a rise in waco type events would require a step by step mimicry of the original waco event. This is not <em>likely</em> what Titor meant when he stated this. If you'll remember, Titor made very specific statements about Waco. For brevity's sake, I won't go into it, but suffice it to say that he asked questions in 2000 questioning the official narrative of the events at Waco. He also made statements that seemed to criticize the heavy handed military assault on a religious compound under a pretext resulting in the death of many people, to include children. Need I remind anyone here of the rise of <u>similarly</u> heavy handed police tactics in recent years? Recent <strong>days? </strong>Do I really need to go through and find news stories of a militarized police force working against a civilian population? Need I post pictures of the Boston police searching <u>house to house</u> looking for one person (permission be damned)? This is decidedly a subjective judgement. If you deny this has any meaning, that is your choice and I wouldn't blame you. Suffice it to say that "Waco Type Events" is likely a reference to Waco <strong><u>TYPE</u></strong> events, not a scene for scene replay of Waco.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">And finally, your last example:</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"No Olympics after 2004 -there has been 2 Winter Olympics and 2 Summer Olympics since then at the normal 4 year intervals"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">You are likely referring to Titor's statement here:</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">This is the only other example of a prediction (event + date) that failed. There is a great deal more of interest in this statement than what is apparent and it is not necessary to go into it here, but I will accept that yes, this is an example of a failed prediction. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">One must ask, given all the <em>other predictions</em> that did come true....<em>why are these two statements, specifically tied to specific years, failures?</em> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">There is an answer to this question.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">As I said earlier, I write this post for one purpose only:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">To demonstrate that the oft-repeated mantra that "many" of Titor's predictions didn't come true is simply and demonstrably false. </span></p><p style="text-align: center"><strong><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Two failed predictions does not comprise "many." </span></strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'arial'">I must wonder if there are others out there who also understand why these "predictions" failed?</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>As Ever</p><p>Temporal Recon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="temporal recon, post: 69033, member: 2826"] [COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]CERN discovering Time Travel in 2001[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]CERN creating mini black holes[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]Civil war starting in 2004 or 2008[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=2][FONT=arial]A Waco type event every month growing steadily worse[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [FONT=arial][COLOR=#ff0000][SIZE=2]No Olympics after 2004 -there has been 2 Winter Olympics and 2 Summer Olympics since then at the normal 4 year intervals[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=arial]Vodkafan, I'm a bit disappointed in your post. I expected a bit more from you. I do hope that your post was made out of simple ignorance of the Titor posts and contamination by Conventional Wisdom and not a purposeful attempt at weak debunking or propagating misinformation.[/FONT] [FONT=arial]I am also a bit surprised that the self styled "Titor Experts" on this site haven't disabused you of your misunderstanding. Since they haven't, I suppose I will take up the task. I do this not only for your benefit, but also as a buttress to the original purpose of [I]COATT;[/I] to combat the longstanding misinformation, misapprehension and just lazy statements of purported "facts" by supposed experts.[/FONT] [FONT=arial] It appears to me that some are simply more apt to spout bad or false information for the aggrandizement of their egos rather than put in the hard work to actually make some true discoveries.[/FONT] [FONT=arial] Perhaps there may be someone here now or in the future reading these posts that might find this post helpful and inspire a second glance at the data?[/FONT] [FONT=arial]So, getting to your statements: [/FONT] [FONT=arial]You start with:[/FONT] [COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=arial]"CERN discovering Time Travel in 2001"[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=arial]Titor never claimed that CERN invented or discovered Time Travel as you mistakenly claim in your post. Specifically, John claimed:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial][COLOR=#f4f4f4]As you can plainly see, John did [B]not[/B] claim that CERN "discovers" time travel in 2001. Merely that the [U]basics[/U] for its development happens there, in about a year (2001). As I am sure you and others reading these words know, scientific discovery is based on the discoveries of previous work. There is also much more to this statement that implies a great deal more than the scope of this post would allow, but suffice it to say for now that your statement that JT "predicted" that time travel was "discovered" at CERN is in error.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=arial]Your second statement was:[/FONT] [COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=arial]"CERN creating mini black holes"[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=arial]Here, you are correct in stating that Titor claimed that CERN would create the [I]black holes[/I] necessary for the operation of the machine, but let's also notice, he never made this "prediction" with an accompanying [U]date.[/U] So to say that this is a failed prediction is false. A failed prediciton would mean that its' date had passed and nothing happened. Specifically, Titor made these two statements:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial][COLOR=#f4f4f4]If you'll notice, he claimed that the [U]energy [/U]used to power the machine is created at (what many take to be) CERN, he did not claim black holes in this statement.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=arial]On the other hand, we have the following statement:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial]In this statement, John [I]does [/I]claim that the microsingularities are created at (what many take to be) CERN. But he never did say CERN, did he? I explore this quite a bit in [I]COATT[/I] and discovered some very interesting things that led me to a new avenue of investigation. But this is out of scope for this post.[/FONT] [FONT=arial]Again, Titor never presented this as a prediction (event + date) which later failed. And again, you are in error in claiming that this was a prediction that has failed. Are you implying now that CERN will [I]not[/I] create black holes at their "circular facility" at some point in the future? I wonder how you are able to make this prediction? [/FONT] [FONT=arial]Another statement you make is:[/FONT] [COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=arial]"Civil war starting in 2004 or 2008"[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=arial]You are likely referring to this statement here:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial][COLOR=#f4f4f4]This is [U]one [/U]example of a prediction, presented as a prediction (statement + date) that failed. As the other "failed prediction" made by Titor, this one is extremely interesting and is, technically, a "failed prediction," but "failed"[I] on purpose[/I]. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=arial][COLOR=#f4f4f4]Because my post here and now is to merely demonstrate that there aren't "many" predictions that failed, but rather only two, I will not go into why this statement is so interesting (yet). Yes, I will go into it later, but not now.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=arial]Another of your statements:[/FONT] [COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=arial]"A Waco type event every month growing steadily worse"[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=arial]This is another example of a prediction without a date. Specifically, Titor said:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial] Titor is a bit unclear in his statement here. He does not say that WACO type events will [U]begin[/U] in year x. He makes two statements, one is about the civil war in 2004 and he makes a separate statement describing the waco-type events. It is [U]assumed[/U] that the waco events he is describing is directly a result of, or cause for, the civil war in the US. This would be a fair assumption, but an [U]assumption[/U], nonetheless. [/FONT] [FONT=arial]There are two things here that we should remember:[/FONT] [FONT=arial]1) The waco type events, if directly tied to the civil war, would, by default, have to be a failed prediction merely by being directly associated with a known failed prediction (civil war in 2005). Separating them as you did is merely a rhetorical device in an attempt to create a longer list of failed predictions where one does not necessarily exist and[/FONT] [FONT=arial]2) It has been wrongly assumed over the last 10 years that a rise in waco type events would require a step by step mimicry of the original waco event. This is not [I]likely[/I] what Titor meant when he stated this. If you'll remember, Titor made very specific statements about Waco. For brevity's sake, I won't go into it, but suffice it to say that he asked questions in 2000 questioning the official narrative of the events at Waco. He also made statements that seemed to criticize the heavy handed military assault on a religious compound under a pretext resulting in the death of many people, to include children. Need I remind anyone here of the rise of [U]similarly[/U] heavy handed police tactics in recent years? Recent [B]days? [/B]Do I really need to go through and find news stories of a militarized police force working against a civilian population? Need I post pictures of the Boston police searching [U]house to house[/U] looking for one person (permission be damned)? This is decidedly a subjective judgement. If you deny this has any meaning, that is your choice and I wouldn't blame you. Suffice it to say that "Waco Type Events" is likely a reference to Waco [B][U]TYPE[/U][/B] events, not a scene for scene replay of Waco.[/FONT] [FONT=arial]And finally, your last example:[/FONT] [COLOR=#ff0000][FONT=arial]"No Olympics after 2004 -there has been 2 Winter Olympics and 2 Summer Olympics since then at the normal 4 year intervals"[/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=arial]You are likely referring to Titor's statement here:[/FONT] [FONT=arial][/FONT] [FONT=arial]This is the only other example of a prediction (event + date) that failed. There is a great deal more of interest in this statement than what is apparent and it is not necessary to go into it here, but I will accept that yes, this is an example of a failed prediction. [/FONT] [FONT=arial]One must ask, given all the [I]other predictions[/I] that did come true....[I]why are these two statements, specifically tied to specific years, failures?[/I] [/FONT] [FONT=arial]There is an answer to this question.[/FONT] [FONT=arial]As I said earlier, I write this post for one purpose only:[/FONT] [FONT=arial]To demonstrate that the oft-repeated mantra that "many" of Titor's predictions didn't come true is simply and demonstrably false. [/FONT] [CENTER][B][FONT=arial]Two failed predictions does not comprise "many." [/FONT][/B][/CENTER] [FONT=arial]I must wonder if there are others out there who also understand why these "predictions" failed?[/FONT] As Ever Temporal Recon [/QUOTE]
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