Some thoughts on Peak Oil

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CaryP

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Heggy,

Ottawa's way inland isn't it? If it is, outside of the influx of refugees, probably nothing outside of the food and energy shortages.

Cary
 
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Cyberbomb

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Nothing would happen to Ottawa, except maybe a higher population as people would be fleeing from the flooded areas.

As for peek oil, no one really knows how much oil there is on the planet, let alone try and guess how much is left, when the British First came to north america, fish could be caught by simply dipping a bucket in the water, but now... fish are now becoming rare, close to extinct, and theres more laws guarding them then fishermen these days.

Fish is a renewable resource, oil... is not, unless you care to wait a few million years for the dead matter to start returning to liquid form, by that time the world would probably be nothing more then a few islands that used to be mountains from global warming, Oil is almost very dangerous in the sense that we could run out at any time within the next 10-20 years, and because we cannot predict when it will run out, it will be an extreme and very sudden change that would effect everyones lifestyle.

As we all know, many people don't take well to change, let alone a sudden, semi-unexpected change, people dependent upon the way we live our lives now will become the most dangerous, that is if they cant adapt. The world has become far to dependent on oil and the end of it may end everything else as well, the slow development of alternative energy sources needs to pick up, and the prices of the existing alternative energy sources (ex: Solar) need to drop.

If it isn't the USA having another civil war and the middle east going mad, the third world war will most likely be a result of the need for oil.
 
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Cornelia

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hope he's true!
so we can go on buying the Russian oil and destroy the climate once for all! :lol:
 
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CaryP

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Hey there deepthought,

Saw the article you posted on one of the research sites I subscribed to.

Here's a quote from Friday's report from urbansurvival.com.

With a major Peak Oil conference underway in Europe this week, we have been receiving a number of emails expressing the notion that Peak Oil is nothing but a speculators pipedream, designed to drive up prices. We find it an interesting coincidence that articles like this one at the \"Center for an Informed America http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr64.html questions the reality of Peak Oil. Other sites go further with one claiming, in part, that Peak Oil is a \"Zionist Scam\" http://www.joevialls.co.uk

What's at the heart of many such attempts to \"debunk\" Peak Oil is the fact that once an oil well is pumped dry. it tends to recover some capacity over a period of time. Whether the \"recovery\" is caused by residual oil slowly percolating into the recoverable area of a well, or whether there's some yet-to-be-understood way that the earth perpetually makes oil is open to debate.

Unfortunately, a simple thought exercise demonstrates the problem clearly enough. Suppose you have a water well that can at maximum, produce enough water for 10 people. Everything is fine and the well provides for the whole community. But then two children are born. Suddenly, the well is no longer sufficient and depending on the well's capacity, it will decline over time until two users are eliminated through natural means or death from dehydration.

That's the reality of Peak Oil. It isn't that there isn't oil in the ground. It's that we are, as in the example above, far beyond the carrying capacity of wells to recover. It takes some precision of thought, but when you read about \"peak oil\" and ask \"Why are we still pumping\", remember the example of the village and the water well. They reached \"peak water\" when the new users were born and started making systemic demands. That \"peak water\" would not become visible to them until the well was pumping mud is a problem of limited perception. ?That's the reality of Peak Oil as far as we can judge it, regardless of whether the earth might be making more petroleum every day.

What we note, most importantly, is the timing of these attacks: They coming during a major peak oil conference and in close proximity to American elections which feature an incumbent president from the oil patch.
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You believe what you want. I'm betting my chips that Peak Oil is the real deal.

Cary
 
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Judge Bean

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Take a short trip down through American folklore, and you find that Oklahoma is 1. a desolate, barren place suitable to store Indians in;
2. a place needed to sink oil wells in, and necessary to populate with non-Indians;
3. a place then up for grabs to the first comers, or Sooners;
4. a place that will grow crops, if only you start to plow-- "Rain follows the Plow;"
5. and now, I see, a place that will continue to produce oil, magically, if only you have faith and continue to drill.
 
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deepthought

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I didn'y say I believed any of it, I asked if we were being conned? What is your take on it. Either we are running short or we aren't, Either way, the producers will make a killing at our expense.

If we really were running out the oil companies would start marketing the fuel saving devices that they own the patents for. They conned us over that to make more money too... :angry:
 

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