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<blockquote data-quote="Einstein" data-source="post: 79411" data-attributes="member: 288"><p>You know I wanted to get into this, but I was unsure you were ready for the realizations that come about concerning this phenomena. But since you asked...</p><p></p><p>Remember in school one of the main reasons used to debunk centrifugal force was that if you cut the rope with the spinning bucket, the force doesn't continue to exist anymore. The object continues to move in a straight line trajectory at right angles to the direction of the centrifugal force. So just from observation it appears a non-changing radius is required for centrifugal force to exist. But the weight vector always points outward. Cutting the rope puts the bucket into a state of motion that is at rest.</p><p></p><p>But the same argument could be used for an object in gravitational free-fall. The observation shows an object in free-fall is weightless. Notice that the radius to the center of the force is no longer constant. Just like with centrifugal force that solid mechanical connection to the radial center of the force is missing. So it appears a non changing radius is a required condition for the existence of both gravitational weight and centrifugal weight. So is gravitational weight a fictitious force too? Remember a weightless condition indicates an object is in a state of rest. </p><p></p><p>Of course there is the unexplained acceleration that takes over in gravitational free-fall. Puzzling for sure. </p><p></p><p>But wait! Just on a hunch I decided to graph the trajectory of the bucket of water in the centrifugal force demonstration. Only thing is I didn't graph from the point of departure. I graphed the trajectory from the origin of the radius. It turns out that the graph depicts the plot of an acceleration curve. Do it yourself if so inclined. So I guess it depends on the point of view you take from relative reference frames. One thing to note is that with centrifugal force the bucket isn't accelerating away from the radial center. The plot shows it is deccelerating away from the radial center.</p><p></p><p>Now it's discussions like this that occasionally give me an"Aha" moment. This was one of them. Because if you turn the decceleration plot around it looks like an acceleration plot. But to turn it around, you would have to change the direction of time. So these observations indicate that time itself may be directly related to gravitational acceleration and centrifugal decelleration. Two opposite time arrows. Now this is something new for me to think about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Einstein, post: 79411, member: 288"] You know I wanted to get into this, but I was unsure you were ready for the realizations that come about concerning this phenomena. But since you asked... Remember in school one of the main reasons used to debunk centrifugal force was that if you cut the rope with the spinning bucket, the force doesn't continue to exist anymore. The object continues to move in a straight line trajectory at right angles to the direction of the centrifugal force. So just from observation it appears a non-changing radius is required for centrifugal force to exist. But the weight vector always points outward. Cutting the rope puts the bucket into a state of motion that is at rest. But the same argument could be used for an object in gravitational free-fall. The observation shows an object in free-fall is weightless. Notice that the radius to the center of the force is no longer constant. Just like with centrifugal force that solid mechanical connection to the radial center of the force is missing. So it appears a non changing radius is a required condition for the existence of both gravitational weight and centrifugal weight. So is gravitational weight a fictitious force too? Remember a weightless condition indicates an object is in a state of rest. Of course there is the unexplained acceleration that takes over in gravitational free-fall. Puzzling for sure. But wait! Just on a hunch I decided to graph the trajectory of the bucket of water in the centrifugal force demonstration. Only thing is I didn't graph from the point of departure. I graphed the trajectory from the origin of the radius. It turns out that the graph depicts the plot of an acceleration curve. Do it yourself if so inclined. So I guess it depends on the point of view you take from relative reference frames. One thing to note is that with centrifugal force the bucket isn't accelerating away from the radial center. The plot shows it is deccelerating away from the radial center. Now it's discussions like this that occasionally give me an"Aha" moment. This was one of them. Because if you turn the decceleration plot around it looks like an acceleration plot. But to turn it around, you would have to change the direction of time. So these observations indicate that time itself may be directly related to gravitational acceleration and centrifugal decelleration. Two opposite time arrows. Now this is something new for me to think about. [/QUOTE]
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