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<blockquote data-quote="Samstwitch" data-source="post: 53004" data-attributes="member: 2770"><p>[ATTACH=full]299[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">The truth about Jesus and Gay people...Most Christians condemn and persecute gay people, but this is NOT what our Lord Jesus Christ taught!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Christians give Jesus a <strong><em>bad rap</em></strong> by persecuting gays. In turn, gays are turned-off to hearing about Jesus, because they have been persecuted! Oh you brood of viper Christians for putting stumbling blocks before these children of God!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff"><strong>JESUS TAUGHT US 2 MAJOR POINTS...</strong></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">1) LOVE ONE ANOTHER</span></p><p> </p><p>Jesus gave us the 11th and most important Commandment (next to loving God):</p><p> </p><p>John 13:34-35: "A new command I give you: Love one another, as I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">2) JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED</span></p><p> </p><p>Matthew 7:1-2: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."</p><p> </p><p>Luke 6:37: “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven."</p><p> </p><p>Jesus never condemned anyone! He rebuked the Pharisees for being hypocrites, but he never condemned anyone, including gays.</p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]302[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">A COMPARISION: MEDIUMS AND GAYS</span></p><p> </p><p>Some people liken gay people to sinners, murderers, sexually immoral people, etc., but these are NOT accurate comparisons.</p><p> </p><p>Think of the movie, "The Sixth Sense". The little boy, Cole Sear, was a <em>gifted Medium.</em> A Medium is someone who can see and communicate with the spirits of dead people. Mediums are born that way, with the gift of Mediumship.</p><p> </p><p>James Van Praagh is a Medium and he was raised Catholic. In fact, many gifted Mediums were raised Catholic. Lisa Williams is a Medium. They are very kind and loving people with the gift of communicating with departed Spirits.</p><p> </p><p>BUT...</p><p> </p><p>In the Old Testament, it was the Law that Mediums were to be stoned to death! They were considered an abomination. But people do not adhere to that belief today, because Jesus changed all that!</p><p> </p><p>I liken gay people to Mediums. Both are born different, both are very sensitive.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">NATIVE AMERICANS</span></p><p> </p><p>Native Americans considered gay people to be special and gifted, because they had traits of both male and female. Many of them became Shamans.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES</span></p><p> </p><p>I have given this matter a lot of thought for many years. One of my sons is gay. He claims he was born that way...and I can tell you, I believe this to be true, because he had traits since the beginning when he was a very small child. (He has also been called an 'Indigo Child' by many people.)</p><p> </p><p>My gay son, and other gay people that I know (and I know many) are the most kind, loving, caring, helpful, and generous people that I have ever met! This is a trait of God's children. God's word says that those who LOVE are God's children.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">THE OLD TESTAMENT & TEN COMMANDMENTS</span></p><p> </p><p>In the Old Testament, the Law forbid God's children to eat pork and many other things that God's people eat today. In the Old Testament, the Law said a rebellious teenager was to be taken outside the gates of the city and stoned to death.</p><p> </p><p>Today there are many things taught in the Old Testament that are not practiced by God's people today. We should live by the Ten Commandments, but even the Ten Commandments do not condemn gay people.</p><p> </p><p>The Old Testament is the LAW, but when Jesus came, He fulfilled the Law and today we do not adhere to those teachings. We are saved by God's <strong><em>grace</em></strong>. Pastor Joseph Prince teaches on this.</p><p> </p><p>[media=youtube]nvXZ-Yt7G-0[/media]</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #cc99ff">THE NEW TESTAMENT</span></p><p> </p><p>I know, I know...there are 2 places in the New Testament where St. Paul mentions homosexuals and condemns them. Now the true English translation of the word that is used in Greek or Hebrew has been argued. But here's what I say...</p><p> </p><p>St. Paul also taught in the New Testament that women should not preach. However, today we do not adhere to that teaching. Joyce Meyers is a perfect example of a great woman preacher!</p><p> </p><p>St. Paul did not WALK with Jesus during the 3 years that he traveled throughout Israel, teaching, preaching, and healing. Paul (Saul) persecuted the Christians and was converted when Jesus appeared to him (after the Resurrection) on the Road to Damascus.</p><p> </p><p>My point is that in the GOSPELS written by the Apostles who WALKED with Jesus, NONE of them ever condemned gay people. And there is also the argument about the accurate translation of the word 'homosexual' in the English translation, so I DO NOT believe gay people are going to hell for being born gay!</p><p> </p><p>Imagine if heterosexuals were told it was unnatural to sleep with the opposite sex, and they were going to hell for doing so. This is how gay people feel when they are persecuted!</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #cc99ff">Jesus LOVES gay people too! Share the Gospel with them without persecution or judgement!</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]301[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>*I'm moving out-of-state soon, and my Bible is packed, so I'm sorry that I cannot reference all of the Scriptures that I talk about here, but they are in the Bible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samstwitch, post: 53004, member: 2770"] [ATTACH=full]299[/ATTACH] [SIZE=4]The truth about Jesus and Gay people...Most Christians condemn and persecute gay people, but this is NOT what our Lord Jesus Christ taught![/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Christians give Jesus a [B][I]bad rap[/I][/B] by persecuting gays. In turn, gays are turned-off to hearing about Jesus, because they have been persecuted! Oh you brood of viper Christians for putting stumbling blocks before these children of God![/SIZE] [COLOR=#cc99ff][B]JESUS TAUGHT US 2 MAJOR POINTS...[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#cc99ff]1) LOVE ONE ANOTHER[/COLOR] Jesus gave us the 11th and most important Commandment (next to loving God): John 13:34-35: "A new command I give you: Love one another, as I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” [COLOR=#cc99ff]2) JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED[/COLOR] Matthew 7:1-2: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Luke 6:37: “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven." Jesus never condemned anyone! He rebuked the Pharisees for being hypocrites, but he never condemned anyone, including gays. [ATTACH=full]302[/ATTACH] [COLOR=#cc99ff]A COMPARISION: MEDIUMS AND GAYS[/COLOR] Some people liken gay people to sinners, murderers, sexually immoral people, etc., but these are NOT accurate comparisons. Think of the movie, "The Sixth Sense". The little boy, Cole Sear, was a [I]gifted Medium.[/I] A Medium is someone who can see and communicate with the spirits of dead people. Mediums are born that way, with the gift of Mediumship. James Van Praagh is a Medium and he was raised Catholic. In fact, many gifted Mediums were raised Catholic. Lisa Williams is a Medium. They are very kind and loving people with the gift of communicating with departed Spirits. BUT... In the Old Testament, it was the Law that Mediums were to be stoned to death! They were considered an abomination. But people do not adhere to that belief today, because Jesus changed all that! I liken gay people to Mediums. Both are born different, both are very sensitive. [COLOR=#cc99ff]NATIVE AMERICANS[/COLOR] Native Americans considered gay people to be special and gifted, because they had traits of both male and female. Many of them became Shamans. [COLOR=#cc99ff]MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES[/COLOR] I have given this matter a lot of thought for many years. One of my sons is gay. He claims he was born that way...and I can tell you, I believe this to be true, because he had traits since the beginning when he was a very small child. (He has also been called an 'Indigo Child' by many people.) My gay son, and other gay people that I know (and I know many) are the most kind, loving, caring, helpful, and generous people that I have ever met! This is a trait of God's children. God's word says that those who LOVE are God's children. [COLOR=#cc99ff]THE OLD TESTAMENT & TEN COMMANDMENTS[/COLOR] In the Old Testament, the Law forbid God's children to eat pork and many other things that God's people eat today. In the Old Testament, the Law said a rebellious teenager was to be taken outside the gates of the city and stoned to death. Today there are many things taught in the Old Testament that are not practiced by God's people today. We should live by the Ten Commandments, but even the Ten Commandments do not condemn gay people. The Old Testament is the LAW, but when Jesus came, He fulfilled the Law and today we do not adhere to those teachings. We are saved by God's [B][I]grace[/I][/B]. Pastor Joseph Prince teaches on this. [media=youtube]nvXZ-Yt7G-0[/media] [COLOR=#cc99ff]THE NEW TESTAMENT[/COLOR] I know, I know...there are 2 places in the New Testament where St. Paul mentions homosexuals and condemns them. Now the true English translation of the word that is used in Greek or Hebrew has been argued. But here's what I say... St. Paul also taught in the New Testament that women should not preach. However, today we do not adhere to that teaching. Joyce Meyers is a perfect example of a great woman preacher! St. Paul did not WALK with Jesus during the 3 years that he traveled throughout Israel, teaching, preaching, and healing. Paul (Saul) persecuted the Christians and was converted when Jesus appeared to him (after the Resurrection) on the Road to Damascus. My point is that in the GOSPELS written by the Apostles who WALKED with Jesus, NONE of them ever condemned gay people. And there is also the argument about the accurate translation of the word 'homosexual' in the English translation, so I DO NOT believe gay people are going to hell for being born gay! Imagine if heterosexuals were told it was unnatural to sleep with the opposite sex, and they were going to hell for doing so. This is how gay people feel when they are persecuted! [B][SIZE=4][COLOR=#cc99ff]Jesus LOVES gay people too! Share the Gospel with them without persecution or judgement![/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [ATTACH=full]301[/ATTACH] *I'm moving out-of-state soon, and my Bible is packed, so I'm sorry that I cannot reference all of the Scriptures that I talk about here, but they are in the Bible. [/QUOTE]
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