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The United States Was Not Founed On The Christian Religion
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<blockquote data-quote="dh1" data-source="post: 150403" data-attributes="member: 2831"><p>wait a minute there, be nicey, we're having a nice convo.</p><p></p><p>The argument you present is based on the quotes from john adams and Thomas Jefferson, both who were prominent in the formation of the US gov. However others were involved, several others who highly edited, and rewrote passages of the declaration of independence and the constitution.</p><p></p><p>So how do we enumerate the importance of each contributor? Can't really. It's all arbitrary. Was Washington more important based on his military successes or Jefferson who wrote the declaration? How about those who removed his slavery ban from it?</p><p></p><p>Anyways, point being, both Christians and non-christians helped form the US gov. BOTH. Thankfully solid rationale prevailed allowing solid ethics to be codified as law without the dogma of Christianity like from the Church of England.</p><p></p><p>I think it worked out pretty well.</p><p></p><p>Constitution reminds me of the 10 commandments, don't kill, don't steal, don't lie(to police anyway), don't cheat(when in legal marriage), etc. Basically a list of stuff not to do, rather than do like more elaborate Christian doctrines. It's a pretty safe place to be, halfway into christianity, halfway out.</p><p></p><p>Anyways God is obviously a libertarian, doesn't force himself on anyone ever. He allows people freedom to sin, so does the constitution. Well it used to before the constitutional republic was bankrupted and re-organized into the fascist fake christian hellhole today.</p><p></p><p>Remember constitution requires an injured party for a law to be legal. That means traffic laws, drug laws, most laws are illegal. Including income taxes, payroll taxes, etc. This is no longer the original intent. So don't blame christians for it, blame retard fake christians.</p><p></p><p>As society becomes more satanic and atheistic, they somehow simultaneously lose the same values the constitution was formed upon, freedom stuffz. Well vast majority of satanists and atheists do so.</p><p></p><p>Christanity as well as most religions are for the unselfaware masses. It's a spiritual and psychological starting point on the path to spirituality, not the end. If you're heavily asleep, religion is for ya. Turns out so is mainstream science and atheism, they both made the same mistakes as religious people as well but those 2 are harder to discern without time travel and free energy research. Huge, huge mistakes in conventional science that are covered up.</p><p></p><p>Anyways if you take the half-spiritual half-scientific path, you find scientific proof of god. After that you find religion isn't a 100% wrong, neither science. Both have major errors, so the path is to find out where they are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dh1, post: 150403, member: 2831"] wait a minute there, be nicey, we're having a nice convo. The argument you present is based on the quotes from john adams and Thomas Jefferson, both who were prominent in the formation of the US gov. However others were involved, several others who highly edited, and rewrote passages of the declaration of independence and the constitution. So how do we enumerate the importance of each contributor? Can't really. It's all arbitrary. Was Washington more important based on his military successes or Jefferson who wrote the declaration? How about those who removed his slavery ban from it? Anyways, point being, both Christians and non-christians helped form the US gov. BOTH. Thankfully solid rationale prevailed allowing solid ethics to be codified as law without the dogma of Christianity like from the Church of England. I think it worked out pretty well. Constitution reminds me of the 10 commandments, don't kill, don't steal, don't lie(to police anyway), don't cheat(when in legal marriage), etc. Basically a list of stuff not to do, rather than do like more elaborate Christian doctrines. It's a pretty safe place to be, halfway into christianity, halfway out. Anyways God is obviously a libertarian, doesn't force himself on anyone ever. He allows people freedom to sin, so does the constitution. Well it used to before the constitutional republic was bankrupted and re-organized into the fascist fake christian hellhole today. Remember constitution requires an injured party for a law to be legal. That means traffic laws, drug laws, most laws are illegal. Including income taxes, payroll taxes, etc. This is no longer the original intent. So don't blame christians for it, blame retard fake christians. As society becomes more satanic and atheistic, they somehow simultaneously lose the same values the constitution was formed upon, freedom stuffz. Well vast majority of satanists and atheists do so. Christanity as well as most religions are for the unselfaware masses. It's a spiritual and psychological starting point on the path to spirituality, not the end. If you're heavily asleep, religion is for ya. Turns out so is mainstream science and atheism, they both made the same mistakes as religious people as well but those 2 are harder to discern without time travel and free energy research. Huge, huge mistakes in conventional science that are covered up. Anyways if you take the half-spiritual half-scientific path, you find scientific proof of god. After that you find religion isn't a 100% wrong, neither science. Both have major errors, so the path is to find out where they are. [/QUOTE]
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