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<blockquote data-quote="Weeeeee_Zard" data-source="post: 65370" data-attributes="member: 3818"><p><span style="color: #ffff00">My responses in yellow-WZ</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">Well, I happen to be an ornamental shrimp keeper/breeder, I know about interbreeding and selective breeding. It's not quite a good example to compare a breeder's colony of a specie to compare to the planetary reality. What I can do in 20 years to get my shrimp color mutations stable enough is nowhere near what happens in nature for thousands of years.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">WOW! this is really funny, what a good read! I will quote my favorite parts, Its like a poem to non-sense:</span></p><p> </p><p>"Thus <u>all</u> the right mutations (and none of the destructive ones) must happen <u>at the same time</u> by pure chance. That is physically impossible. To illustrate just how hopeless it is, imagine this: on the ground are all the materials needed to build a house (nails, boards, shingles, windows, etc.). We tie a hammer to the wagging tail of a dog and let him wander about the work site for as long as you please, even millions of years. The swinging hammer on the dog is as likely to build a house as mutation-natural selection is to make a single new working part in an animal, let alone a new creature."</p><p><img src="http://www.newgeology.us/DogTail.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"The fossil record shows that evolution never happened." <span style="color: #ffff00">- HAHAHAHAHAHA!</span> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>--------------------------</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-Its so funny how the writer of this article keeps bringing up failed experiments to prove evolution in a laboratory, we cant repeat evolution in an experiment, it takes millions of years. Its as funny as saying that fossils are fake because I buried my dog in the backyard 50 years ago end its bones are not yet rocks... Or that claim that there is no proof of the evolution that happened before complex vertebrates such as fish because we cant find their fossil ancestry... there is not going to be fossils of every single creature that lived on earth, specially if they had no bones!! LOL!</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-There is no need for adaptation, then there is no need for evolution. Certain species have been successfully adapted to their environment for a very long time, like dragonflies... or blue green algae... its interesting but it doesn't disprove anything about evolution.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-Archeopteryx was thought to be the first feathered reptile, between what we know as birds today and them. We know now that a lot of the dinosaurs that we thought didn't have feathers, actually did. For example we depicted the velociraptor without feathers in the movie Jurassic park because at that time that is what we thought, today we know they had feathers. How does this disprove evolution? its actually the opposite!</span></p><p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070920145402.htm" target="_blank">Velociraptor Had Feathers</a></p><p> </p><p><img src="https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiJEYIrse9FCgogBlqVgoJSXCu18bDjOIj18t-UMHAfZ5nBp9F" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWEsjH14tqbZaQa2UycxTg07U2Jd6rpu8UhkNytygD4VA-lfyo" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-So, we know more now... feathers did not mean that birds started with Archeopteryx. How come this writer pretends to have a single specie be the shifting point? I mean, this person has no clue of the amount of time and mutations that its supposed to take! Its amazing how the writer has no capability of wrapping his/her head around the concept of time.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>"The theory of evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics"</p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-this claim makes no sense. I violated that law when I restored antiques and cars? did my 2 yr old son brake that law when he plays with puzzles? its not as simple, its about energy not about disorder as the claim points out.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-The way the writer talks about the second law of thermodynamics makes me wonder what does him/her think about the formation of the universe. It seems we come from chaos to an organized universe... what is chaos? what is organized? the Universe itself then brakes the 2nd law of T.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">"The theory of evolution violates the Law of Biogenesis"</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-ok, that Law was conceived before really even understanding a Virus. The fact we haven't yet created life from scratch in a laboratory doesn't mean that we wont. Craig Venter got really close!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">For example, recently we reached UNDER ABSOLUTE ZERO temperatures, which it was supposed to be impossible by Lord Kelvin. </span><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute-zero-1.12146" target="_blank">Quantum gas goes below absolute zero : Nature News &amp; Comment</a></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">"The theory of evolution cannot explain how gene regulatory networks came to be."</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">-Well, GRN and evolution have still some work to do to make sense. Algebra and mathematical hypothesis seem to be getting a glimpse of their connection, its just a matter of time.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="color: red">"The Bottom Line</span></strong></p><p>Evolutionists assume evolution is true, then write endlessly about when and where it happened, rates and lineages, etc. But if <span style="color: red">macroevolution is physically impossible</span> in the real world, and it is, then all the rest is fantasy. <u>There are only two possibilities. Either every part of every living thing arose by random chance, or an intelligence designed them.</u> It is now clear that the theory of evolution's only mechanism for building new parts and creatures, mutation-natural selection, is totally, utterly, pathetically inadequate. In spite of overwhelming evidence that the theory of evolution is dead wrong, many are not ready to throw in the towel. They desperately hope that some natural process will be found that causes things to fall together into organized complexity. These are people of great faith. And they are so afraid of connecting God with science that, like the Japanese Army of World War II, they would rather die than surrender. Unfortunately, the staunchest defenders sit in places of esteem and authority as professors, scientists, and editors, and have the full faith of the news media. The public is naturally in awe of their prestige. But once the facts are understood it becomes obvious that the theory of evolution is long overdue for the trash can, and to perpetuate it is fraud. Perhaps it made sense for what was known when <em>On the Origin of Species</em> was published in 1859, but not today."</p><p> </p><p><u>*****There are only two possibilities. Either every part of every living thing arose by random chance, or an intelligence designed them*****.</u></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">- Ooooohhh, yeah... that makes more sense... God did it. LOL! I was waiting for the "G" word to appear!</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">In this article, either the writer did not get the meaning of things he used as some kind of proof against evolution or the claims only shown that this puzzle still under construction. None of the arguments can be used as proof of the existence of a god that created it all magically, maybe to show the weakness in certain aspects of science, but that wont last forever, we don't have religion prohibiting the scientific advance like 200 years ago.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ffff00">Again, a short video to explain evolution vs creationism:</span></p><p>[media=youtube]XdddbYILel0[/media]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weeeeee_Zard, post: 65370, member: 3818"] [COLOR=#ffff00]My responses in yellow-WZ[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]Well, I happen to be an ornamental shrimp keeper/breeder, I know about interbreeding and selective breeding. It's not quite a good example to compare a breeder's colony of a specie to compare to the planetary reality. What I can do in 20 years to get my shrimp color mutations stable enough is nowhere near what happens in nature for thousands of years.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]WOW! this is really funny, what a good read! I will quote my favorite parts, Its like a poem to non-sense:[/COLOR] "Thus [U]all[/U] the right mutations (and none of the destructive ones) must happen [U]at the same time[/U] by pure chance. That is physically impossible. To illustrate just how hopeless it is, imagine this: on the ground are all the materials needed to build a house (nails, boards, shingles, windows, etc.). We tie a hammer to the wagging tail of a dog and let him wander about the work site for as long as you please, even millions of years. The swinging hammer on the dog is as likely to build a house as mutation-natural selection is to make a single new working part in an animal, let alone a new creature." [IMG]http://www.newgeology.us/DogTail.jpg[/IMG] "The fossil record shows that evolution never happened." [COLOR=#ffff00]- HAHAHAHAHAHA![/COLOR] :) -------------------------- [COLOR=#ffff00]-Its so funny how the writer of this article keeps bringing up failed experiments to prove evolution in a laboratory, we cant repeat evolution in an experiment, it takes millions of years. Its as funny as saying that fossils are fake because I buried my dog in the backyard 50 years ago end its bones are not yet rocks... Or that claim that there is no proof of the evolution that happened before complex vertebrates such as fish because we cant find their fossil ancestry... there is not going to be fossils of every single creature that lived on earth, specially if they had no bones!! LOL![/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]-There is no need for adaptation, then there is no need for evolution. Certain species have been successfully adapted to their environment for a very long time, like dragonflies... or blue green algae... its interesting but it doesn't disprove anything about evolution.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]-Archeopteryx was thought to be the first feathered reptile, between what we know as birds today and them. We know now that a lot of the dinosaurs that we thought didn't have feathers, actually did. For example we depicted the velociraptor without feathers in the movie Jurassic park because at that time that is what we thought, today we know they had feathers. How does this disprove evolution? its actually the opposite![/COLOR] [URL='http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070920145402.htm']Velociraptor Had Feathers[/URL] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSiJEYIrse9FCgogBlqVgoJSXCu18bDjOIj18t-UMHAfZ5nBp9F[/IMG][IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWEsjH14tqbZaQa2UycxTg07U2Jd6rpu8UhkNytygD4VA-lfyo[/IMG] [COLOR=#ffff00]-So, we know more now... feathers did not mean that birds started with Archeopteryx. How come this writer pretends to have a single specie be the shifting point? I mean, this person has no clue of the amount of time and mutations that its supposed to take! Its amazing how the writer has no capability of wrapping his/her head around the concept of time.[/COLOR] "The theory of evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics" [COLOR=#ffff00]-this claim makes no sense. I violated that law when I restored antiques and cars? did my 2 yr old son brake that law when he plays with puzzles? its not as simple, its about energy not about disorder as the claim points out.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]-The way the writer talks about the second law of thermodynamics makes me wonder what does him/her think about the formation of the universe. It seems we come from chaos to an organized universe... what is chaos? what is organized? the Universe itself then brakes the 2nd law of T.[/COLOR] [SIZE=4]"The theory of evolution violates the Law of Biogenesis"[/SIZE] [COLOR=#ffff00]-ok, that Law was conceived before really even understanding a Virus. The fact we haven't yet created life from scratch in a laboratory doesn't mean that we wont. Craig Venter got really close![/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]For example, recently we reached UNDER ABSOLUTE ZERO temperatures, which it was supposed to be impossible by Lord Kelvin. [/COLOR][URL='http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute-zero-1.12146']Quantum gas goes below absolute zero : Nature News & Comment[/URL] [COLOR=red]"The theory of evolution cannot explain how gene regulatory networks came to be."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]-Well, GRN and evolution have still some work to do to make sense. Algebra and mathematical hypothesis seem to be getting a glimpse of their connection, its just a matter of time.[/COLOR] [B][COLOR=red]"The Bottom Line[/COLOR][/B] Evolutionists assume evolution is true, then write endlessly about when and where it happened, rates and lineages, etc. But if [COLOR=red]macroevolution is physically impossible[/COLOR] in the real world, and it is, then all the rest is fantasy. [U]There are only two possibilities. Either every part of every living thing arose by random chance, or an intelligence designed them.[/U] It is now clear that the theory of evolution's only mechanism for building new parts and creatures, mutation-natural selection, is totally, utterly, pathetically inadequate. In spite of overwhelming evidence that the theory of evolution is dead wrong, many are not ready to throw in the towel. They desperately hope that some natural process will be found that causes things to fall together into organized complexity. These are people of great faith. And they are so afraid of connecting God with science that, like the Japanese Army of World War II, they would rather die than surrender. Unfortunately, the staunchest defenders sit in places of esteem and authority as professors, scientists, and editors, and have the full faith of the news media. The public is naturally in awe of their prestige. But once the facts are understood it becomes obvious that the theory of evolution is long overdue for the trash can, and to perpetuate it is fraud. Perhaps it made sense for what was known when [I]On the Origin of Species[/I] was published in 1859, but not today." [U]*****There are only two possibilities. Either every part of every living thing arose by random chance, or an intelligence designed them*****.[/U] [COLOR=#ffff00]- Ooooohhh, yeah... that makes more sense... God did it. LOL! I was waiting for the "G" word to appear![/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]In this article, either the writer did not get the meaning of things he used as some kind of proof against evolution or the claims only shown that this puzzle still under construction. None of the arguments can be used as proof of the existence of a god that created it all magically, maybe to show the weakness in certain aspects of science, but that wont last forever, we don't have religion prohibiting the scientific advance like 200 years ago.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffff00]Again, a short video to explain evolution vs creationism:[/COLOR] [media=youtube]XdddbYILel0[/media] [/QUOTE]
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