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<blockquote data-quote="Time T." data-source="post: 44366" data-attributes="member: 2663"><p>Now, before you mention the alteration of history and the concept behind it, the fact is that the alteration would go <u>unnoticed </u>is my point. Time travelling has always been a mystery, and to the modern day, the only changes a person would actually see would be on the newspaper, television, internet, etc. By what I mean is that those events are broadcasted daily for one to actually see and understand, so one would see that the event actually happened. Suppose that the alteration of history occurred without one's notice? How would we go about the fact that someone changed the past which erased the present future, or altered it in such a way that it produces what is widely known as the butterfly effect? Would we see the changes? If so, then time travelling would be aforementioned, useless. If everyone knew that time travel existed, and when it changed the past, then I believe the quote "History repeats itself" would be in the right. I believe that time travel, when it occurs, can influence a new time line in which none of the respective people in this world would know that the world had been changed, or diverged into a new 'future'.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now if time travellers were very discrete people, then I would have to question time travelling in general. That would mean in fact that time travellers have travelled to our age to change their current present (future for us) for either their own or a larger corporation's benefit, and that they were sent back in order to alter the past and stay in the past. However, I believe that an alteration to the past would then affect the current time line we currently live in, and not force it back into the past, but affect everything around us as of now, without us knowing the changes have even occurred. For if a time traveller has in fact went into the past to change it, then what would happen to the current age as we know it? Would we be forever oblivious that changes were made without our knowledge and that the past has been affected to the point where the time traveller would know exactly what would happen? And also, the butterfly effect would be a massive proponent in the event of changing the past. And on top of this, I highly doubt time travel is controllable. After all, does anyone have any idea what would happen if, let us say, that someone in some state did something that he didn't mean to do, but the time travel affected him to actually do it? Like a man walked into a restaurant with a gun that day, but time travel affected him to not do it, then what would happen? How would the other events stack up? Time Travel is full of holes and riddles, unknown, but the mere thought of it brings about great changes..</p><p></p><p>Vortexes, if they do in fact exist, I believe would cause a paradox. Let us say that a vortex pulled me out of the current time line and plunked me into the same time line a few hours back. The first question would be as to what happened to my current state in the time line at the current time. The other question would be what would happen to the 'me' of before. Would I simply disappear and vanish into thin air, or would I be able to meet myself in the past? If that were to happen, then I would have known that I would meet myself in the past, wouldn't I? I believe that if a vortex were to actually happen, it would be exactly as a time machine that sent you back to meet yourself; it would have already happened, and you would have known about it.</p><p></p><p>Being sent to another time line, I believe would induce one of the two theories. One is that the case would have already happened, and you yourself would have known that you'd have to go back in time, since it already happened. The other is that you enter a completely new time line, and that that time line is now your new 'current present'.</p><p></p><p>Of course, this is entirely of my own opinion.</p><p></p><p>I'm interested as to see whether these time slip stories pose plausable facts, and I'd like to see a couple if someone may link me to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Time T., post: 44366, member: 2663"] Now, before you mention the alteration of history and the concept behind it, the fact is that the alteration would go [U]unnoticed [/U]is my point. Time travelling has always been a mystery, and to the modern day, the only changes a person would actually see would be on the newspaper, television, internet, etc. By what I mean is that those events are broadcasted daily for one to actually see and understand, so one would see that the event actually happened. Suppose that the alteration of history occurred without one's notice? How would we go about the fact that someone changed the past which erased the present future, or altered it in such a way that it produces what is widely known as the butterfly effect? Would we see the changes? If so, then time travelling would be aforementioned, useless. If everyone knew that time travel existed, and when it changed the past, then I believe the quote "History repeats itself" would be in the right. I believe that time travel, when it occurs, can influence a new time line in which none of the respective people in this world would know that the world had been changed, or diverged into a new 'future'. Now if time travellers were very discrete people, then I would have to question time travelling in general. That would mean in fact that time travellers have travelled to our age to change their current present (future for us) for either their own or a larger corporation's benefit, and that they were sent back in order to alter the past and stay in the past. However, I believe that an alteration to the past would then affect the current time line we currently live in, and not force it back into the past, but affect everything around us as of now, without us knowing the changes have even occurred. For if a time traveller has in fact went into the past to change it, then what would happen to the current age as we know it? Would we be forever oblivious that changes were made without our knowledge and that the past has been affected to the point where the time traveller would know exactly what would happen? And also, the butterfly effect would be a massive proponent in the event of changing the past. And on top of this, I highly doubt time travel is controllable. After all, does anyone have any idea what would happen if, let us say, that someone in some state did something that he didn't mean to do, but the time travel affected him to actually do it? Like a man walked into a restaurant with a gun that day, but time travel affected him to not do it, then what would happen? How would the other events stack up? Time Travel is full of holes and riddles, unknown, but the mere thought of it brings about great changes.. Vortexes, if they do in fact exist, I believe would cause a paradox. Let us say that a vortex pulled me out of the current time line and plunked me into the same time line a few hours back. The first question would be as to what happened to my current state in the time line at the current time. The other question would be what would happen to the 'me' of before. Would I simply disappear and vanish into thin air, or would I be able to meet myself in the past? If that were to happen, then I would have known that I would meet myself in the past, wouldn't I? I believe that if a vortex were to actually happen, it would be exactly as a time machine that sent you back to meet yourself; it would have already happened, and you would have known about it. Being sent to another time line, I believe would induce one of the two theories. One is that the case would have already happened, and you yourself would have known that you'd have to go back in time, since it already happened. The other is that you enter a completely new time line, and that that time line is now your new 'current present'. Of course, this is entirely of my own opinion. I'm interested as to see whether these time slip stories pose plausable facts, and I'd like to see a couple if someone may link me to them. [/QUOTE]
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