US election passing peacefully?
Originally posted by Unintentional@Nov 10 2004, 12:51 AM
I will download and listen to it during work tomorrow. 39 megs? how long is this? I will listen to the whole thing regardless.
dissdnt - on your webpage you have the same story, (one county in Ohio gave Bush 3893 votes accidently), 32 times. This has long been corrected. Do you have any other stories that Bush didn't win Ohio?
I'm not trying to fight or make you mad or anything, but seriously, posting the same story 32 times, while definitely proves it happened, does not mean it was widespread. Or even relevent, as the margin Bush had was over 130,000 votes with about that many votes still left to count which may even enlarge that margin.
Seriously, can anyone give a total in Ohio that is reasonably valid that indicates Bush did not win?
Remember before the voting even started, observers found at least 4 machines with hundreds of votes already \"recorded\" for Kerry? Imagine how many machines got by observers.
Another interesting fact is most voting machines in Ohio are punch card, EXACTLY like the 2000 Florida ballot. When the vote is broken down by type of machine, Kerry got the most votes with the electronic voting booths and Bush got the most votes with the punch card machines. When the two totals are combined, Bush edges out Kerry by over 130,000 votes.
So, the counties that use the old reliable, time tested punch card had a majority for Bush. THe counties that used the new fangled, supposedly easy to hack and cheat and change results had a majority for Kerry. Who cheated who with what where?
I am not trying to make any enemies. I just want an honest exchange of ideas here.
Hola,
About my site, it's not comprehensive at all. As i said i just threw up some stuff, im not really sure what i want to do with it yet and this is the only place that i accually posted the url...
Anyway about election stuff. Do you have articles to support what your saying? I didn't hear about votes already on machines that were for Kerry, what i did hear/read was that some machines had votes already on them from pervious elections, ie midterm elections having nothing to do with this election.
About Ohio, there are between 150,000 to 200,000 provisional ballots that are still being counted today, yes Ohio still does not have 100% of it's votes counted.
But it doesnt even matter. I honestly believe that the Republicans did whatever they can to make sure they win, and i hope it will come out..
About your punch ballots and electronic voting...where did you read this? I'd love to see this article.
From what i've read and heard on the radio, the truth is that scantron machines and electronic voting machines Bush led by a significant margin.
And lets not forget exit polling, it was so off in EVERY state and EVERY country, one has to ask, how is that possible??
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=405
"A statistical analysis of exit polling conducted for RAW STORY by a former MIT mathematics professor has found the odds of Bush making an average gain of 4.15 percent among all 16 states included in the media?s 4 p.m. exit polling is 1 in 50,000, or .002 percent. "
Check out the chart there..
Another thing, im a registered Republican in the state of ny. I am not a quote "liberal" which has somehow become a dirty word. I am someone who honestly cares about this country and our system. And when i see these Neo-cons and Christian Dominions taking over with there falsehoods, lies, and blind idiology...well it's really time to do something.
But it's to late.. we've lost.. so it seems... the damage is beyond repair... I think John Titor is right..
