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Will President Trump Be Impeached?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cirrus" data-source="post: 188273" data-attributes="member: 10493"><p>You all know I'm left of center. But, I might as well be far left compared to you all on here <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite55" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" />. So, here's my two cents. </p><p></p><p>Number one... I'm never in favor of impeaching a president unless there is good cause to do so. When Clinton was impeached, there was not good reason to do so. Obstruction of justice in a case mainly involving the sexual affairs of the president does not rise to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in my book. Because, let's be honest, if it did, then Trump should have been impeached on the same charges as Clinton. </p><p></p><p>But, I digress. </p><p></p><p>With Trump you have a president who has open and specifically called upon foreign nations to investigate presidential candidates who oppose him. That coupled with the "quid pro quo" with the Ukraine and you have something that sure sounds like "high crimes and misdemeanors" to me. </p><p></p><p>That all being said... the democrats know that even with the approval of the articles of impeachment in the House that there will not be a fair trial in the Senate. Why? Because Mitch McConnell has specifically said that the <em>White House</em> will get to call the shots on the procedures for the impeachment trial in the Senate. If that's how we're gonna flip the script in the US legal system, then I'm gonna go take part in a wee bit of money laundering and then, when I'm caught, I'm gonna tell the judge that there will be no witnesses and the prosecution will be prohibited from putting on their case. So, you have a Senate that is very open about the fact that the trial will not be fair and that they just want it to be over. This is not a good precedent to set. </p><p></p><p>Getting to Pelosi... if she was smart she would be holding back sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate to ensure that the Democrats and Republicans will work collaboratively on the procedures for the trial. This play may even require that the Democrats certify a question to the Supreme Court to get their take on how the trial should proceed. Unfortunately, I don't think this is the real play for Pelosi... instead it's likely to drag things out until closer to the next election as a political game. </p><p></p><p>Trust me... I want this to just be over too. But the trial needs to be fair. If it's not a fair trial, then you set a precedent that you might not be able to come back from.</p><p></p><p>But let's be real, people, Trump is using his time machine right now to go back to the past and cover up all the potential wrongs <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite39" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cirrus, post: 188273, member: 10493"] You all know I'm left of center. But, I might as well be far left compared to you all on here :ROFLMAO:. So, here's my two cents. Number one... I'm never in favor of impeaching a president unless there is good cause to do so. When Clinton was impeached, there was not good reason to do so. Obstruction of justice in a case mainly involving the sexual affairs of the president does not rise to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in my book. Because, let's be honest, if it did, then Trump should have been impeached on the same charges as Clinton. But, I digress. With Trump you have a president who has open and specifically called upon foreign nations to investigate presidential candidates who oppose him. That coupled with the "quid pro quo" with the Ukraine and you have something that sure sounds like "high crimes and misdemeanors" to me. That all being said... the democrats know that even with the approval of the articles of impeachment in the House that there will not be a fair trial in the Senate. Why? Because Mitch McConnell has specifically said that the [I]White House[/I] will get to call the shots on the procedures for the impeachment trial in the Senate. If that's how we're gonna flip the script in the US legal system, then I'm gonna go take part in a wee bit of money laundering and then, when I'm caught, I'm gonna tell the judge that there will be no witnesses and the prosecution will be prohibited from putting on their case. So, you have a Senate that is very open about the fact that the trial will not be fair and that they just want it to be over. This is not a good precedent to set. Getting to Pelosi... if she was smart she would be holding back sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate to ensure that the Democrats and Republicans will work collaboratively on the procedures for the trial. This play may even require that the Democrats certify a question to the Supreme Court to get their take on how the trial should proceed. Unfortunately, I don't think this is the real play for Pelosi... instead it's likely to drag things out until closer to the next election as a political game. Trust me... I want this to just be over too. But the trial needs to be fair. If it's not a fair trial, then you set a precedent that you might not be able to come back from. But let's be real, people, Trump is using his time machine right now to go back to the past and cover up all the potential wrongs ;). [/QUOTE]
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