vodkafan
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Hi guys this is the companion thread to the list of movies and films and TV.
Why have I started it? Well I think that most of the ideas about time travel have been explored in films and literature. They make interesting stories because of the problems and paradoxes. I want us to be able to thrash them out here. What individuals think works and what doesn't. Also any real known research about the nature of Time in physics. I will try to keep up Is there any chance of pinning this one admin?
For instance I will kick off with a film I saw recently, Looper. (spoiler alert)
Near the end of the film the Bruce Willis character kills Abe and all the gangsters at their base in the city. Apart from the stupid one with the bad foot, who is killed on the road later by the younger version of Willis.
Later the young Willis kills himself to save the boy who will grow up to become the Rainmaker . By pinching out his own loop, the older Willis never existed , therefore all the gangsters and Abe are still alive back at the city. Those events never happened. However, because the stupid one was mixed up in those events, he has now NO REASON to go out on the bike and meet his destiny/death an hour later on the road at the hands of the Younger Willis , who was still alive at that point.
OK that's one point. But there is also a MUCH BIGGER LOOP. Because now the boy and his mother survived, future history has been MAJORLY changed. The inference from the film is that the boy no longer becomes the criminal boss Rainmaker in the future. So no Loopers are sent back to get bumped off by their younger selves; in fact, the whole Looper lifestyle probably doesn't ever arise.
Anybody got any thoughts? Agree or disagree?
Why have I started it? Well I think that most of the ideas about time travel have been explored in films and literature. They make interesting stories because of the problems and paradoxes. I want us to be able to thrash them out here. What individuals think works and what doesn't. Also any real known research about the nature of Time in physics. I will try to keep up Is there any chance of pinning this one admin?
For instance I will kick off with a film I saw recently, Looper. (spoiler alert)
Near the end of the film the Bruce Willis character kills Abe and all the gangsters at their base in the city. Apart from the stupid one with the bad foot, who is killed on the road later by the younger version of Willis.
Later the young Willis kills himself to save the boy who will grow up to become the Rainmaker . By pinching out his own loop, the older Willis never existed , therefore all the gangsters and Abe are still alive back at the city. Those events never happened. However, because the stupid one was mixed up in those events, he has now NO REASON to go out on the bike and meet his destiny/death an hour later on the road at the hands of the Younger Willis , who was still alive at that point.
OK that's one point. But there is also a MUCH BIGGER LOOP. Because now the boy and his mother survived, future history has been MAJORLY changed. The inference from the film is that the boy no longer becomes the criminal boss Rainmaker in the future. So no Loopers are sent back to get bumped off by their younger selves; in fact, the whole Looper lifestyle probably doesn't ever arise.
Anybody got any thoughts? Agree or disagree?