We'll see.
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Donald Trump is the Antichrist
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2021
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How about refuting that you only got to where you are today because society supplies you with the resources to do it at all, even if you earn it society gives it to you. It gave you internet, it gives you stores to buy parts for broken machinery, it gives you loads of things that made it possible to have that peaceful content life you have. How about refuting that even though the events haven’t happened yet, Trump has threatened to start those events and his followers cheer for it? How about refuting that what you say to do is the same as ignoring a gun in my face like it won’t go off? You can’t and didn’t refute any of that. As for not knowing those terms, nobody I’ve ever met or heard talk has used them, not even politicians. Searching the internet finds no results in 30 minutes of searching different engines. It just sounds like some arbitrary line someone drew and people were like yeah okay, let’s go with that. Your predictions are completely wrong. What I’ve seen my whole life is when Democrat Presidents want to do something good for people, they get shut down by Republican controlled branches of government, and sometimes even their own party.
The peace in your life was carved out by you yes, by using tools and resources given to you by society. Without society we’d be back in the Stone Age. That obviously comes with a lot of problems, like lack of medicine and resources when your machines lose power or break down. Or are you saying you can make tractors and ac units or guns, or whatever else you might need? That you can go mine your own ore to even make those things, assuming you had the very specialized skills needed to do so? Dont make me laugh. Without society you’d be as lost as the rest of us eventually. And even if you weren’t, your kids and grandkids would struggle because guess what, no society no school. No internet no online resources to teach, and so much more. I could keep going but you already got the picture, that’s why you couldn’t refute my statements in the other post.
As for disconnecting for news, why should I do that? It shows me the actual state of the world, not some fantasy I want it to be, or some unsustainable attempt to disconnect from reality. My humanity hasn’t been stolen from me. You’ve just abandoned your own in order to live a worry free life that only benefits you, which goes against human nature. We’ve always been connected to each other. Humans never would have survived in history from the very beginning if they just cut themselves off from other people. And ever since we’ve expanded our communities because it’s easier survive and thrive as a group than it is alone.
LostInSauce
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Indeed we will. I think it could go either way. On the one hand, if he is a "double agent" it's one of the greatest stunts ever. They pulled out all the stops to sell it. Trying to kill him, remove him from the ballot, and jail him. All make me inclined to believe he's legit. On the flip side...I don't know if you can ever trust such people. And I'm convinced that he's a little too cozy with the Synagogue of Satan.
LostInSauce
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I was literally living without electricity, gas, and running water in a forest for several years. Please don't flatter yourself by thinking I need you or the other bot-people to survive. The fact is that I'm up here and you're down there. It is a testament to the superiority of me and my way, and nothing you or your ilk say or do, or have already said or done can change that. I have been more than generous in trying to assist you, but alas, just like I said earlier: most people don't want to be helped, and most people deny that there is even a problem. If you're so right, well then it seems that you have nothing to show for it. Whereas my wrongness has paid dividends.
The news shows you only what propagandists want you to see. You have no way to independently verify it. In many cases they've been caught outright lying. All major news networks are owned by the same people who rule the country: the rich.
See you in four years when I'm sure you'll still be doing the same things over and over, and getting the same results.
2021
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Once again you can’t refute what I said, and just double down. At this point I think you are just ignoring what I am saying.
Even if you live alone in the forest, with no electricity or whatever, you have no medicine. And like I said, you may not need society any more, but you did before you started living in the forest, thus you can only live in the forest because of society. I bet you use metal tools that you didn’t make, or got the materials from a store somewhere if you did. A reliance on society. You think are superior just because you cut yourself off from society, but it’s not sustainable and honestly thinking you’re superior is just ridiculous and frankly false. No man is superior to another.
My point had been made and you are free to ignore it all you want, but it doesn’t change anything. Have fun living in the Stone Age, except with handouts from society to make it all work.
LostInSauce
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You're one to talk about handouts from society...
Q. Are you (now) apolitical ? Just curious. (DM me if you like.)
I haven't been through the whole thread yet,
but, It's been a good conversation so far however.... That, which I made RED (above) ^^^ ...
"Bot people like you" is just asking for a flame war, please refrain from this.
Thanks.
2021
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Well excuse me for being disabled…
Regardless, the point is that society sustains all of us. You just refuse to accept that.
Aw crap.....
Okay.....Having read up to here....Please consider taking a breather from the thread, peeps.
Let's not have a Javelin Toss going here.........It's been cool so far.....!
LostInSauce
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Dead Internet theory - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
It's very real. They're everywhere. Bots. Persons who have been brainwashed by radio, TV, social media, and generally been socialized to be as if they were bots (just like Dr. Kaczynski said), AI generated spam content, and junk fed to you by the algorithm.
The bots, as you may well have heard have become increasingly sophisticated with the development of things like Gemini, ChatGPT, DeepSeek, etc. to the point where often they are very difficult to distinguish from real persons.
Persons made like bots are a step away from that in that they have, for so long, voluntarily or involuntarily been bathed in this...mental/intellectual junk that they begin to take act as sort of a transmitter. Take for example those social media videos in which some guy uses his "rizz" as the youngsters call it, to score some blonde bombshell. The videos aren't real. Everyone involved is an actor. Everyone involved may not actually even exist. It could just be an AI generated fake that's been touched up. But to someone with no cynicism, or someone who watches something like this day in and day out, it becomes real. And of course while they are seeing it, and seeing is believing, they're not seeing it in reality. They're seeing it through a screen. The screen has distracted them from reality, and created for them a false image. The image, in this case may well have an effect on how they think or behave. Of course this example is rather benign.
I'm just saying that this stuff is incredibly real, and it's out there, and I think it's real bad news for anyone and everyone online and (maybe to a lesser extent) offline who value independent thought and action.
Regarding your question as to my politics? Hm...I'd say I'm apolitical in that I do not particularly strongly support any ideology, nor am I a member of any party. However, I do have opinions on political issues. That said, I try to keep away from hot button issues. If something really big goes down, you'll hear about it without having to be told about it on the news. The news, of course, tells you what the ruling class wants you to focus on. Ultimately, I think political decisions ought to be guided by a set of values, principals, and logical processes, rather than a sort of...party dogma. That always got me into a bit of trouble. Whenever I did talk to partisan types, it was all fun and dandy until I disagreed with their party's line on something. Invariably I was met with canned replies that they themselves didn't actually think of, but were rather told by persons on TV, or radio, etc. Bot people! Hope that answers your question.
PS: I generally have a firm belief that as it pertains to big political issues, we are categorically powerless. HOWEVER, we have the ability to set ourselves up to survive, or even thrive under conditions imposed upon us. For example, I believe most world economies have foundations of sand. They incur huge debts, print money to pay this off, and then have a team of pseudo-economist apparatchiks say that it's normal and sensible. I disagree, and I believe that this system will invariably fail. Because economies can't be built on shuffling around imaginary ones and zeros on spreadsheets, not forever. So, I structure my finances, and prepare accordingly. If and when their system fails, I have measures in place to come out a winner. I can't control it. But I can prepare for, and respond to it.