Re: HDRKID
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
Pick next weeks baseball game on a friday. You pick the game. He tells us what the score will be exactly. Forget picking a winner, that's a 50 -50 %. Have him tell us what Gold starts out at on Friday the 30th EXACTLY.[/b]
Star,
Sorry to pick nits here, but Tigge asked what would constitute proof. These things are only evidence. I know it's semantics, but semantics is one of the means by which hdrkid evades your argumennts against him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
Better yet, have the kid tell us what I am going to post about on friday the 30th EXACTLY here on this thread.[/b]
Somewhat stronger evidence, but would not rise to the level of proof.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
He can't do it now, nor will he ever be able to do it. I'll tell you why he can't do it. First and formost reason is that the kid is not able to travel in time in any body. Via the Physical body or the Astral Body. I suspect what the kid IS doing is traveling to some Astral world which had nothing to do with this world yet may look very similiar \"As Above, So Below\" and he has not figured this out yet for himself. [/b]
I have a real problem with this. It is as plain as the nose on your (physical) face that the kid is lying. You should say so. You grant him credence with this mishmash about how he is astrally traveling to a destination he does not comprehend. There is one thing (and one thing only) he certainly has "figured out for himself" and that is how to jerk Starlord's chain.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
When you take the time to point this out, well then, you're just a debunker and don't know anything. Yeah, right.[/b]
Always remember that the HDR won't work in the presence of a skeptic. Similar to Uri Geller's spoon bending tricks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
Of course NOW it's \"IN ANOTHER TIME LINE\" none of us are there so for all practicle purposes Dragons own all the laundrys and Salamanders all over the world do the Bartending while only squirrles are allowed to work at Hooters. See the point? One can claim anything about 'over there' and never have to back it up.[/b]
An excellent point. How then to explain your letting him off the hook with your above argument that he is actually astrally traveling? Could not a similar argument be made about these "astral" claims he has made? He never has to back those up either, since they must by definition be taken on faith.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
Bottom line, the hdr unit is a placebo and a waste of money. The kid is definately wasteing his time trying to convince those, that know what they know be it science, electronics, physics, esoteric, that the hdr unit has anything to do with time travel. [/b]
The hdr supposedly aids in astral time travel. It will provide real time travel if operated at a "vortex point." Since there is no concrete evidence whatsoever for astral travel or the existence of so-called "vortex points" (these have never even been really defined by paranormal believers), then there of course can exist no analytical evidence at all for any real effect provided by the hdr.
Lastly, let's call the kid a liar and end this. I know it's a lively thread but it's still overkill. There is no convincing the true believers that this hdr is pure quackery. The kid does no real harm to any person, though the same cannot be said of his impact on logic and analytical thinking.
Harte