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Found this youtube video awhile back. enjoy!
JFK Assassination: Secret Service stand-down
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Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Hearings ... - Google Books
JFK Assassination Forum discussion and debate surrounding the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy In Dealey Plaza Texas on November 22nd 1963 Assassination of JFK
I think the agent closest to jfk after the shot would know best about exactly where the skull was blasted off.
From his W.C. testimony
Mr. SPECTER. You say that it appeared that she was reaching as if something was coming over to the rear portion of the car, back in the area where you were coming to?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Was there anything back there that you observed, that she might have been reaching for?
Mr. HILL. I thought I saw something come off the back, too, but I cannot say that there was. I do know that the next day we found the portion of the President's head.
From 'Mrs Kennedy and Me" by Clint Hill'
In his memoir, Mrs Kennedy And Me, Mr Hill said of the final shot: 'The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting a melon shattering into cement
'In the same instant, blood, brain matter and bone fragments exploded from the back of the President's head... and splattered all over me - on my face, my clothes, in my hair.'
As he moved towards Mrs Kennedy, he watched her reaction: 'Her eyes were filled with terror,' he wrote. 'She was reaching for something. She was reaching for a piece of the President's head.'
ZAPRUDER FRAME # 374 & a few others - Page 9 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum FRAMES 313 AND 312.
JFK Assassination Forum discussion and debate surrounding the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy In Dealey Plaza Texas on November 22nd 1963 Assassination of JFK
I think the agent closest to jfk after the shot would know best about exactly where the skull was blasted off.
From his W.C. testimony
Mr. SPECTER. You say that it appeared that she was reaching as if something was coming over to the rear portion of the car, back in the area where you were coming to?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Was there anything back there that you observed, that she might have been reaching for?
Mr. HILL. I thought I saw something come off the back, too, but I cannot say that there was. I do know that the next day we found the portion of the President's head.
From 'Mrs Kennedy and Me" by Clint Hill'
In his memoir, Mrs Kennedy And Me, Mr Hill said of the final shot: 'The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting a melon shattering into cement
'In the same instant, blood, brain matter and bone fragments exploded from the back of the President's head... and splattered all over me - on my face, my clothes, in my hair.'
As he moved towards Mrs Kennedy, he watched her reaction: 'Her eyes were filled with terror,' he wrote. 'She was reaching for something. She was reaching for a piece of the President's head.'
ZAPRUDER FRAME # 374 & a few others - Page 9 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum FRAMES 313 AND 312.
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I knew one of the secret service guys and worked with another and can tell you they would not allow JFK to be murdered...
The one guy named Frank caught hell from JFK more then once and he was the short guy with a flat top hair cut.
A real jackass if you want to know...
The one guy named Frank caught hell from JFK more then once and he was the short guy with a flat top hair cut.
A real jackass if you want to know...
george martin
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The bullet entered the right forehead, lifted up the Parietal bone, creating extensive fractures and ultimately exited the Occipital bone. The autopsy photo matches frame 313 quite predictably.
Dr. Grossman clearly states that the hole was too large to be an entrance wound, because the large irregular hole was a wound of exit. The back of the head was lifted up to demonstrate the large wound on the right rear. Frame 313 and the autopsy report jibe nicely to produce a factual basis for the rear blow-out witnessed by forty or so folks, including Jackie and the driver. Instead of completely lying, Dr. Humes simply understated the missing skull in the Occipital region which the hole was most dominant.
Lastly, Dr. Grossman describes perfectly the confusion about whether a hole exited in the Parietal region: "It was clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet which had exited." There was no hole on the top of the head. It was on the right rear and likely the top back/Parietal, not the very top. His hair and skull is clearly lifted up in the second skull image, thereby corroborating Grossman's accurate view of the wounds.
V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
JFK Lancer
Missile Wounds
1. There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right
involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the
temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual
absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures
approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter.
11) Dr. Robert G. Grossman, Resident Neurosurgeon:
a) "High Treason", pages 30, 36, 51, 53, 459 ("The Boston Globe", June
21, 1981-notes placed in JFK Library [see also "Killing Kennedy", pp.
303-304, "Between The Signal and the Noise" by Roger Bruce Feinman
(1993) and Groden's "TKOAP", p. 181])---saw two separate head wounds: a
large defect in the parietal area above the right ear,
as well as "a
large [albeit smaller than the first wound described], separate wound,
located squarely in the occiput."; "
described a large hole squarely in
the occiput, far too large for a bullet entry wound "; Grossman: "It was
clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet
which had exited."; noticed the skin flap near the right temple; Dr.
Clark picked up the back of the head to demonstrate the wound;
b) 6 H 81 (Salyer)---confirms Grossman's presence in Trauma Room One;
Dr. Grossman clearly states that the hole was too large to be an entrance wound, because the large irregular hole was a wound of exit. The back of the head was lifted up to demonstrate the large wound on the right rear. Frame 313 and the autopsy report jibe nicely to produce a factual basis for the rear blow-out witnessed by forty or so folks, including Jackie and the driver. Instead of completely lying, Dr. Humes simply understated the missing skull in the Occipital region which the hole was most dominant.
Lastly, Dr. Grossman describes perfectly the confusion about whether a hole exited in the Parietal region: "It was clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet which had exited." There was no hole on the top of the head. It was on the right rear and likely the top back/Parietal, not the very top. His hair and skull is clearly lifted up in the second skull image, thereby corroborating Grossman's accurate view of the wounds.
V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
JFK Lancer
Missile Wounds
1. There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right
involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the
temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual
absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures
approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter.
11) Dr. Robert G. Grossman, Resident Neurosurgeon:
a) "High Treason", pages 30, 36, 51, 53, 459 ("The Boston Globe", June
21, 1981-notes placed in JFK Library [see also "Killing Kennedy", pp.
303-304, "Between The Signal and the Noise" by Roger Bruce Feinman
(1993) and Groden's "TKOAP", p. 181])---saw two separate head wounds: a
large defect in the parietal area above the right ear,
as well as "a
large [albeit smaller than the first wound described], separate wound,
located squarely in the occiput."; "
described a large hole squarely in
the occiput, far too large for a bullet entry wound "; Grossman: "It was
clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet
which had exited."; noticed the skin flap near the right temple; Dr.
Clark picked up the back of the head to demonstrate the wound;
b) 6 H 81 (Salyer)---confirms Grossman's presence in Trauma Room One;
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We didn't fight the War of 1812 just because we thought Canada would be a nifty addition to the United States. We fought it because the private Rothschild bank's 1st charter had ended in 1811 and our then president didn't ratify another. Everyone knows that you can't EVER say No to Rothschild. Fast forward a century. The Federal Reserve created and financed by Rothschild hijacked our nation's currency printing worthless FIAT instead and our ancestors whether White, Black, or Yellow had no say. President Kennedy was trying to SAVE US AS A NATION. Executive Order 11110 gave the responsibility of printing currency back to the US Treasury and SOLID GOLD was necessary to back that currency reestablishing the "Gold Standard". Notice poor old Kennedy didn't live too long after that!
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george martin
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11110 might have been a reason but surely it was numerous things that led to his death.
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The red halo/spray, brain matter, and skull detaching all came out the rear.
The very first eyewitness confirms that what we see on jfk's face in Zapruder, really came out the rear of his skull, exactly where the bullet really exited. It is very clear that the rear is breaking open when the red mist appears in the right front.
The President was struck in the forehead, over the right eye. "All of the brain matter went out the back of the head. It was like a red halo, a red circle with bright matter in the middle of it, it just went like that. (She means the red halo/mist disappeared into the air). The back of his head blew off, and it doesn't make sense to be hit from the rear and still have your face intact. He must've been hit from the front or side, but the back of his head blew off." Great quotes from eyewitnesses.
Willis family: Head shot came from right front - YouTube
The very first eyewitness confirms that what we see on jfk's face in Zapruder, really came out the rear of his skull, exactly where the bullet really exited. It is very clear that the rear is breaking open when the red mist appears in the right front.
The President was struck in the forehead, over the right eye. "All of the brain matter went out the back of the head. It was like a red halo, a red circle with bright matter in the middle of it, it just went like that. (She means the red halo/mist disappeared into the air). The back of his head blew off, and it doesn't make sense to be hit from the rear and still have your face intact. He must've been hit from the front or side, but the back of his head blew off." Great quotes from eyewitnesses.
Willis family: Head shot came from right front - YouTube
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For Hill to have seen brain matter explode out the rear of JFK’s head and actually view the hole as he lie in the backseat is all the proof anyone needs to know that the massive exit wound was exactly where it always was, and where it wasn't supposed to be according to over fifty years of pushing it forward of that posterior area. The proof in this case is found by identifying the biggest lies. The government was apparently not comfortable with saying the entrance and exit wounds were both at the rear because no one would believe such tripe. Forty eyewitnesses, specific Zapruder frames, and the autopsy report support Clint Hill's description of JFK's exit wound.
Secret Service Agent Clint Hill wrote a 2012 book, “Mrs. Kennedy and Me,” in which he describes his experience during the JFK assassination.
“I heard the shot. The third shot,” he wrote. “The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting something hollow – like the sound of a melon shattering onto the cement. In the same instant, blood, brain matter, and bone fragments exploded from the back of the president’s head. The president’s blood, parts of his skull, bits of his brain were splattered all over me – on my face, my clothes, in my hair.”
“As I peered into the backseat of the car,” Hill recalled. “I saw the president’s head in [Jackie’s] lap. His eyes were fixed, and I could see inside the back of his head. I could see inside the back of the president’s head.” Rare Zapruder footage: Multiple JFK assassins
Secret Service Agent Clint Hill wrote a 2012 book, “Mrs. Kennedy and Me,” in which he describes his experience during the JFK assassination.
“I heard the shot. The third shot,” he wrote. “The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting something hollow – like the sound of a melon shattering onto the cement. In the same instant, blood, brain matter, and bone fragments exploded from the back of the president’s head. The president’s blood, parts of his skull, bits of his brain were splattered all over me – on my face, my clothes, in my hair.”
“As I peered into the backseat of the car,” Hill recalled. “I saw the president’s head in [Jackie’s] lap. His eyes were fixed, and I could see inside the back of his head. I could see inside the back of the president’s head.” Rare Zapruder footage: Multiple JFK assassins
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Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Hearings ... - Google Books
JFK Assassination Forum discussion and debate surrounding the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy In Dealey Plaza Texas on November 22nd 1963 Assassination of JFK
I think the agent closest to jfk after the shot would know best about exactly where the skull was blasted off.
From his W.C. testimony
Mr. SPECTER. You say that it appeared that she was reaching as if something was coming over to the rear portion of the car, back in the area where you were coming to?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Was there anything back there that you observed, that she might have been reaching for?
Mr. HILL. I thought I saw something come off the back, too, but I cannot say that there was. I do know that the next day we found the portion of the President's head.
From 'Mrs Kennedy and Me" by Clint Hill'
In his memoir, Mrs Kennedy And Me, Mr Hill said of the final shot: 'The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting a melon shattering into cement
'In the same instant, blood, brain matter and bone fragments exploded from the back of the President's head... and splattered all over me - on my face, my clothes, in my hair.'
As he moved towards Mrs Kennedy, he watched her reaction: 'Her eyes were filled with terror,' he wrote. 'She was reaching for something. She was reaching for a piece of the President's head.'
ZAPRUDER FRAME # 374 & a few others - Page 9 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum FRAMES 313 AND 312.
JFK Assassination Forum discussion and debate surrounding the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy In Dealey Plaza Texas on November 22nd 1963 Assassination of JFK
I think the agent closest to jfk after the shot would know best about exactly where the skull was blasted off.
From his W.C. testimony
Mr. SPECTER. You say that it appeared that she was reaching as if something was coming over to the rear portion of the car, back in the area where you were coming to?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Was there anything back there that you observed, that she might have been reaching for?
Mr. HILL. I thought I saw something come off the back, too, but I cannot say that there was. I do know that the next day we found the portion of the President's head.
From 'Mrs Kennedy and Me" by Clint Hill'
In his memoir, Mrs Kennedy And Me, Mr Hill said of the final shot: 'The impact was like the sound of something hard hitting a melon shattering into cement
'In the same instant, blood, brain matter and bone fragments exploded from the back of the President's head... and splattered all over me - on my face, my clothes, in my hair.'
As he moved towards Mrs Kennedy, he watched her reaction: 'Her eyes were filled with terror,' he wrote. 'She was reaching for something. She was reaching for a piece of the President's head.'
ZAPRUDER FRAME # 374 & a few others - Page 9 - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum FRAMES 313 AND 312.