Mandela Effect - WTF does it mean?

Snow

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My husband and I are having one - the Charles Manson Murders. Before I say anything else - those of you who are old enough to remember where you were and what you were doing - think about it and then fix the date, before googling it.

What are your personal results?

@Khaos - freaky ain't it?

Also, can you believe "aint" isn't a typo if you put the apostrophe? aint ain't - WTF? It's not even a real word, right?

I have been following Anthony Patch on his "nothing has changed" ME theory pretty closely because I like him a lot . . . but I just can't buy it. The changes that I am sure of - I am thoroughly convinced of - and there is residual evidence to consider, and the fact that so many of the changes (especially the changes before the youtube click bait artists got involved to make a buck) are remembered across the board for those experiencing the effect. No one remembers all of them because an honest person has to admit their attention was not focused enough on each instance to be sure about ALL of them.

If nothing has changed except for some edits in your gray matter, then these Mandela Effect editors are pretty fucking amazing at their jobs if they can individually edit the gray matter of large groups of people and have all of them hold the very same wrong memory. It is hundreds of times more impossible to believe that than it is to believe these things actually have changed - no matter what the method.

Gawd - I don't know if I articulated that very well.

Besides, in his theory, being able to note the differences is somehow a good thing. If nothing has changed and I am in the group whose heads are being messed with - then how can that be better than being in the group whose heads are unaltered . . .

Yes - I still look at this thing every single day. It has slowed way down - if not ended. Does that line up for the rest of you?
 

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I can totally chalk up false memory when I am alone, but when I am with one or more people who all are having an ME episode along with me, including what happened with my mother and I with the store, I can't believe that is just a coincidence...
 

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My husband and I are having one - the Charles Manson Murders. Before I say anything else - those of you who are old enough to remember where you were and what you were doing - think about it and then fix the date, before googling it.

What are your personal results?

@Khaos - freaky ain't it?

Also, can you believe "aint" isn't a typo if you put the apostrophe? aint ain't - WTF? It's not even a real word, right?

I have been following Anthony Patch on his "nothing has changed" ME theory pretty closely because I like him a lot . . . but I just can't buy it. The changes that I am sure of - I am thoroughly convinced of - and there is residual evidence to consider, and the fact that so many of the changes (especially the changes before the youtube click bait artists got involved to make a buck) are remembered across the board for those experiencing the effect. No one remembers all of them because an honest person has to admit their attention was not focused enough on each instance to be sure about ALL of them.

If nothing has changed except for some edits in your gray matter, then these Mandela Effect editors are pretty fucking amazing at their jobs if they can individually edit the gray matter of large groups of people and have all of them hold the very same wrong memory. It is hundreds of times more impossible to believe that than it is to believe these things actually have changed - no matter what the method.

Gawd - I don't know if I articulated that very well.

Besides, in his theory, being able to note the differences is somehow a good thing. If nothing has changed and I am in the group whose heads are being messed with - then how can that be better than being in the group whose heads are unaltered . . .

Yes - I still look at this thing every single day. It has slowed way down - if not ended. Does that line up for the rest of you?

I remember when I was young using "aint" in a sentence and sometimes teachers and adults would always come back with that smart ass remark saying "aint isn't a word!" or "don't say aint because aint isn't a word" or something like that

Things most definitely did change.

And there aint no way in hell the ME is a result of highly advanced technology screwing with ME experiencers memories and that nothing has changed at all! or a natural fault in memory. The residuals show that it's not us misremembering things.
The way I see it, the residual evidence that can be found is way too obvious now and for some of these scientists and researchers to try and push that theory that nothing has changed at all is a joke and they are just making themselves look stupid for saying that and are ignoring evidence that they needed to investigate but failed.

I could understand a little bit maybe if some of these scientists and researchers are unaffected by the mandela effect on how they might not take the residual evidence serious enough and look into them deeply enough thinking maybe it's just another disinfo conspiracy or something but any serious ME researcher would not dismiss the deposited residue so easily and say it's got to be memories being altered. Memories being altered is a bunch of bullshit

I seen comments of people saying that the reality residue that exists is considerable, but insufficient to be proof of anything but only because the residue seems to be flip-flopping at times. I admit things have seemed to flip-flop before but it doesn't make deposited residue insufficient the way I see it and experienced it.

A lot of people have talked of Rapture type events a lot in the past that was sounding very similar to the ME and this is years before the mandela effect was known as the mandela effect. There really is too many to count that have came out and mentioned a similar event over the years. There was Dolores Cannon talking about "the New Earth" information that supposedly was given to her by beings, keepers or Custodians of earth or something
apparently there is a conspiracy that she is still alive but I wonder if it's a hoax. I didn't really look into it much. she was said to have died October 18, 2014

I was going back and listening to the open lines for time travelers that art bell had so many years ago. There were a few different open line TT shows he had but there was one from 1998 that was the oldest I could find and some of the people that called in who claimed to be time travelers even would sometimes mention that in the future there would be a rapture type event where people would be taken to a new version of earth and that some would be left behind. I know it's hard to take any of the alleged time travelers serious on coast to coast AM but it's still very interesting to hear some of the things said.

A claim by some astronomers is that earth is in the wrong position in the galaxy. That we use to be on the Sagittarius outer arm but instead now on a central part of the Orion arm in the Milky Way galaxy.
I also remember learning it being Sagittarius. way on the outside.

I still research ME stuff when I can, it's pretty much stayed the same pace but it's hard to keep up with everyone coming out with all the new theories of what happened. it's crazy of how many various different theories I hear about


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In my day, we were always corrected by our teachers for using the word ain’t. Now I think that word made the dictionary book. I am not trying to debunk ME, but I think a lot of us tend to get spelling and dates mixed up. As far as driving to our destination and not remembering how we got there, I think that is attributed to our minds being elsewhere despite our being focused on the road. It is similar to walking to the kitchen and then forgetting what we went there for. Our minds play tricks on us.
 

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I have been regularly researching this subject and all possible causes for these events. The most perplexing thing is that it is only some people albeit a large amount of people that remember certain events a certain way. I just found out about a new one today, well new to me, the Little Debbie Nutty Bars... Apparently they have always been called nutty buddy! Also, if you look it up you will find a combination of both Nutty Buddy as well as Nutty Bars, I SWEAR it has always been Nutty Bars some places say there was a name change but why and when? Is this a Mandela effect??? Also one of the proven Mandela effects that has personally affected me is the Gremlins movie. That was one of my favorite movies when I was younger I watched all of them over and over and over and that DANG gremlin's name was SPIKE! I know his name was Spike because I had a little doll of him and I remember the name on the package as Spike but now its Stripe, WHAT?!o_O
 

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I have been regularly researching this subject and all possible causes for these events. The most perplexing thing is that it is only some people albeit a large amount of people that remember certain events a certain way. I just found out about a new one today, well new to me, the Little Debbie Nutty Bars... Apparently they have always been called nutty buddy! Also, if you look it up you will find a combination of both Nutty Buddy as well as Nutty Bars, I SWEAR it has always been Nutty Bars some places say there was a name change but why and when? Is this a Mandela effect??? Also one of the proven Mandela effects that has personally affected me is the Gremlins movie. That was one of my favorite movies when I was younger I watched all of them over and over and over and that DANG gremlin's name was SPIKE! I know his name was Spike because I had a little doll of him and I remember the name on the package as Spike but now its Stripe, WHAT?!o_O
I thought that gremlin's name was Spike too. I could see that as most people wanting the name to be Spike because it was more fitting for the character and sounded better than Stripe.
 

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I thought that gremlin's name was Spike too. I could see that as most people wanting the name to be Spike because it was more fitting for the character and sounded better than Stripe.
I know the entire effect is quite perplexing. So many theories of the cause including CERN, a cataclysm in 2012, and false collective memories. What is everyone else's opinion on the cause of this madness?
 

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I know the entire effect is quite perplexing. So many theories of the cause including CERN, a cataclysm in 2012, and false collective memories. What is everyone else's opinion on the cause of this madness?
I think many (if not most) on here don't think that the ME is a thing. While ME is open to much criticism, the fact still remains that it's a collective forgetfullness rather than just a small group of people.
 

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I know the entire effect is quite perplexing. So many theories of the cause including CERN, a cataclysm in 2012, and false collective memories. What is everyone else's opinion on the cause of this madness?
It's quite possibly the result of repeated time travel that's ripping a whole between alternate timelines and ours. I've noticed the Mandela effect has been getting progressively worse over time. Essentially I've had conversations with the same people multiple times some will begin to be affected by it, and not even remember the previous conversations!

The time travel has been going on before 2012, however there was some sort of temporal event in 2013/2014
 

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It's quite possibly the result of repeated time travel that's ripping a whole between alternate timelines and ours. I've noticed the Mandela effect has been getting progressively worse over time. Essentially I've had conversations with the same people multiple times some will begin to be affected by it, and not even remember the previous conversations!

The time travel has been going on before 2012, however there was some sort of temporal event in 2013/2014
Excellent research, keep it up please :).
 

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I have been regularly researching this subject and all possible causes for these events. The most perplexing thing is that it is only some people albeit a large amount of people that remember certain events a certain way. I just found out about a new one today, well new to me, the Little Debbie Nutty Bars... Apparently they have always been called nutty buddy! Also, if you look it up you will find a combination of both Nutty Buddy as well as Nutty Bars, I SWEAR it has always been Nutty Bars some places say there was a name change but why and when? Is this a Mandela effect??? Also one of the proven Mandela effects that has personally affected me is the Gremlins movie. That was one of my favorite movies when I was younger I watched all of them over and over and over and that DANG gremlin's name was SPIKE! I know his name was Spike because I had a little doll of him and I remember the name on the package as Spike but now its Stripe, WHAT?!o_O

My fatherinlaw always referred to them as Nutty Buddies and we would show him the box which clearly read Nutty Bars. He would reply "yea but I am closer to 'em than most so they are my Nutty Buddies.
First I've heard of this M.E.
 

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The only MEs I can think of...Zack from Saved By The Bell died in a car accident many years ago. But he is alive now. And once my co-worker was driving us toward Manhattan and I saw an old water tower and I thought that it was odd since we had driven this way for years and I never noticed it before. And then he said, I never saw that water tower before.
 

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Here's a fun fact: it seems to stop happening when your brain finishes developing later in life. I think it's similar to deja vu. It's just a cognitive thing, not evidence of different timelines at all.
 

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Here's a fun fact: it seems to stop happening when your brain finishes developing later in life. I think it's similar to deja vu. It's just a cognitive thing, not evidence of different timelines at all.
It continues to happen to me very frequently. Of course I came up with a theory that fits the observations a long time ago. My consciousness is shared by a group of other versions of me that are dispersed across other timelines. How many other me's there are I do not know. Probably not infinite. I did come up with experiements that everyone can do to alter the timeline you are on. But having a very good memory is required to notice the changes. Perhaps with declining memory, changes would no longer be noticed.
 

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As I've found recently, the Mandela effect can be anything to misspelled letters, logos changing and all the way up to the Entire freaking planet looking different.

The others have dubbed the very latter point as the "Old Earth" theory.
 

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Once you discover the Mandela Effect you will be subject to witnessing changes constantly.
Many changes you will not spot but things that you may have had a detailed interest in the past but have not looked at for a while will be the areas where you are most likely to spot them. For me it is aircraft more than anything as I was very much into them as a teenager, now there are aeroplanes with propellers at the back. These types of planes never existed until 2018 for me.
Also engines on passenger planes now sit forward of the wings where they used to sit so the rear of the engines were past the rear of the wing.
 

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It continues to happen to me very frequently. Of course I came up with a theory that fits the observations a long time ago. My consciousness is shared by a group of other versions of me that are dispersed across other timelines. How many other me's there are I do not know. Probably not infinite. I did come up with experiements that everyone can do to alter the timeline you are on. But having a very good memory is required to notice the changes. Perhaps with declining memory, changes would no longer be noticed.
Mandela Effect didn't start for me until I was 41 so nothing to do with brain development, also I had never heard of it before I noticed it.
My memory is getting sharper because it has too. I actually try to ignore changes and even have to alter my conversation to incorporate them so as not to appear insane. I'm guessing it's not going to go away.
 
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