minuteman project and Waco type events thread

Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

is it just were i live,or does everyone ,notice the low flying heicopters on a daily mission, i don,t know whether to be concerend or paranoid, and not just once a day either!
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Do you live near a military base? What units are stationed there, and are any of them getting set for a deployment or just returning from one? If so that explains the rotor traffic.
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

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Funny as I'm writing this, a movie on USA network (\"10.5\" is the name) is showing the brave lads of FEMA trying to rescue the country by detonating nukes underground to prevent a catastrophic earthquake from \"redifining\" the geography of California. [/b]

Hey Cary... MomsMom is sitting here with me saying she saw this movie about a month ago.

Scared the "crap" (yep we can still say that) outta her and she is investing in Depends Stock. She didn't feel comfortable with the government "helping"... gonna get her converted one day soon ;)

Mom
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

no darkwolf , i live in pothole(huntington) wv near marshall university , there are some plants , special metals, some steel mills and some 1/2 hour away like,,, monsanto???? this is a tri state region where ohio,wv, and ky meet , it is so strange though we also get a heavy spraying of chem trails , although ive quit trying to covince anyone as they think im dilluional????
 
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now this is interesting......

Message To The
American Police Officer
By J. Croft
3-26-5


Ever feel like a tool?

Ever feel like an ass enforcing a arbitrary speed limit with the same force as you would chasing away drug dealers and creepy trench coated old men from elementary schools? Ever wonder what the hell you or your partner were doing arresting that victim of criminal assault - ever wonder what you were doing making that assault? Making an anthill into a 'prosecutable' mountain so that your partner, or God forbid, yourself, can make a collar? Or standing by and stonewalling a desperate person pleading for your help, turning them away so that they go over the edge and create another bust or two for yourself?

Ever feel like part of the problem, even though you're told that you're part of the solution? Well, thank God you at least feel some responsibility for what you and your 'brother officers' have done to help destroy America.

That's right; modern American policing is destroying America. It's a preening cult of overtestosteroned man-children; 'cowboys' looking for the slightest excuse to wreck some lives to make busts? for the 'law'.

And who do you wind up sending to the disease-ridden homosexual rape camps known as prison? Poor white, black, and brown trash deliberately dumbed down and corrupted by a covertly communist education system and mass media

You're rousting the wrong people-while the criminal rich steal from us all. The criminal rich who are behind the shows that you recoil in disgust at? if you still can recoil in disgust.

The criminal rich who back the foundations and unions who have long ago transformed American education into a manufacturer of adult children-unable to think for themselves, ignorant of their heritage of Freedom and God, conditioned into having a programmed hostility towards knowledge and those who still value it despite the programming.

The criminal rich who have over the decades progressively made living in America a desperate struggle for survival as the jobs that can still sustain that seductive lie known once as the 'American dream' are sent overseas to poor Chinese and Indians who will NEVER know of it.

The criminal rich who are mass produced by this nation's overabundant law universities and become the trial lawyers, judges and representatives. The same pack of lawyer rat bastards who have literally downed entire forests to print all the bureaucracy that has killed all the joy of being a Free Man in America and given you 'peace officers' a cornucopia of 'law' to 'enforce'.

Law

A rich man's game as it takes a rich man to go through eight years of law school and college and a hundred grand in tuition to become a lawyer. A move to keep as much of the people the laws are targeted against from learning their convoluted rules as possible, and still maintain this fiction that their 'laws' come from the People.

It hasn't sunk in that the law is one of America's worst rackets?

Let me run down a few catagories for you; see if they mesh with what America is supposed to be...

Traffic Laws

These are nominally to keep about two hundred million motorists safe on the road, they've long ago been turned into a vile source of revenue and colossal waste of police resources. A vile source of revenue as it's a fear based tax based mostly on driving habit, and a colossal waste as traffic detail ties down you guys-who could be investigating shady folks like Ken Lay of Enron, or tracking down who's really bringing more and more dope into the country. Or even something as picayune as the corruption of the local government-which cuts your paycheck. But it's a lot easier to play with some hapless Citizen than any local power broker who could break you, isn't it?

DUI

Used to be you had to be honestly drunk and a threat to get pulled over for this. Now, it's past overkill; the new drunk laws can mean a single beer and you're screwed. That and your Goddamn checkpoints are killing off being able to go out. This is one of the few outlets Americans seem to have left, and what do we find-a gauntlet of you bust hungry bastards to run through. "Thanks".

And if you're homeless! These lawyer made 'anti-vagrancy' laws mean if a American loses their job, winds up sleeping in their car or on the street, you guys roll on them and give them a ticket to the nearest homosexual rape palace-which you call the county jail. What the hell did these people do besides come out losing in a increasingly hostile economy? They drink and take drugs, yes-you would too if you were cast to the bottom of a socio-economic pit you have no hope of climbing out of.

Persecuting crime victims for protecting themselves; too many of you get mortally offended when average folks use a gun to prevent their own mortal demise. You see anyone but a fellow bureaucrat armed, and it's like he or she might as well have raped schoolchildren with you. You forget the Bill of Rights recognizes each and every one of us has the God given Right to armed self defense? What is about the very thought of the People being able to match you in firepower that scares you? Are you looking at all of us as opponents?

Are you that twisted, that brainwashed by that perverted cop culture you've swan dived into that your fellow Americans are your enemy? Are you even aware that you are brainwashed, conditioned into being the razor edge of the spear of totalitarianism that's being thrust into the very heart of our People?

What does freedom mean to you?

Does it mean anything? Or is it just another word?

Does it mean an ever increasing stranglehold of 'laws' that just give power to the state and it's bureaucrats in a piecemeal fashion, so as to not arouse righteous opposition?

Do these laws reflect the respect for you as a free person? Do they protect us all from a evermore invasive and belligerent government?

Does more bureaucracy not expose the people to more and more pushy, uppity, obnoxiously authoritarian small minded cretins in cheap suits-given way too much power? And, if more bureaucrats are a threat to all of our livelihoods and freedom, then doesn't it make sense that more laws and regulations would only give these white collar scumbags just that many more excuses to rob us of what is rightly ours?

Wouldn't LESS LAW be better for a free society?

You know the answers. You also know that the lawyers are not going to have a sudden change of heart and start reversing all the damage done to our nation. You also know that most bureaucrats are not going to look at a person and a rule and not enforce it.

So that leaves one person left, one safeguard remaining from the state confronting another innocent vitcim-you.

YOU are the people's last line of defense from a out of control state!

It's your choice: stand with the People or stand against them!

The time is NOW to choose! More tyrannical law is being passed by more and more tyrannical lawyers and other sycophant bureaucrats. Enforced by tyrannical bureaucrats mistakenly armed and sworn, they cause more and more people to HATE YOU. This added hatred, along with the increasingly technostalinist bent of our "laws" will make YOU a TARGET for those unable to "cope" with the loss of their Freedom. A target literally.

For the sake of our Children, our Nation and your own ability to look in the mirror without recoiling in shame, resist.

How You Can Resist

Get to know your non-cop friends again, and your neighbors. You probably let those relationships go bye-bye when you bought into the crap that cops are "a breed apart". The people you joined the force to 'serve and protect'; and you view them as scum?

Your mindset will be the first obstacle to overcome, but since you're reading this you're hopefully already on that road. The 'cop culture' like most aspects of American culture is managed by it's own 'gatekeepers' who serve an Agenda-to fill your discipline and duty oriented mind with all sorts of psychological cues that herd you into being a insufferable elitist.

Yeah, that's what that 'they' want-there's always a 'they' around to ruin it for everyone. You blindly enforcing laws which oppress everyone. 'They' fill you with pride in your profession, give you a cool looking uniform, all sorts of means to carry out your job-and you get guns! All of which are but bait-egotistical masturbation.

Assaulting this egotistical masturbation is your first duty, assaulting your 'brother officers' programming as you can is your second duty. There is a line, and it's different with each individual, but it basically is their patience at listening to you challenge what they've been programmed with. Don't count on getting them to see the light quick, as you know the programming's thorough and very deep. Don't push too much, and use examples you come across. This is a war-not a battle.

Your third duty: shielding the People as best you can from the ravages of the laws lawyers pass. Look into your heart-if you are with God, you will know which laws are sensible(stopping murder, rape, robbery, reckless drivers, crack dealers selling to grade school kids). The rest(niggling regulations, laws that rob people of their rights) must not be enforced. They must be IGNORED.

Ignoring as best you can, because your supervisors watch you to make certain you do your job as proscribed by them. You're in a bad spot, and sometimes you will be forced to pick your battles. Sometimes you won't be able to directly help someone about to get steamrolled by the state. You'll have to surreptitiously get evidence of their innocence and get it to a attorney willing to fight for their freedom. Sometimes you'll encounter a scumbag son of a bitch-who's shielded by the local powers-that-be. That person might even wear the same badge and uniform as you. Here is where you shall have a real gut check: what if there isn't a way to stop this bastard legally? What if this state sanctioned criminal plants dope to cause a raid and asset forfeiture seizure? What if this human sized cockroach is going to whack a 'troublemaker'; someone working for Freedom just like you?

How far will you go to do something about it? And can you do it smarter-as in being able to get away with it? There are people who know of these things, and one or two even wrote books on the subject if you can't get a hold of that someone. Beyond that I dare not say what you should do, except that it needs doing, and nobody's doing it at all.

There's more you can do; a lot more. You can do this under a alias or not, but it's my wish you cops would start showing the People on a individual and community level how they can defend themselves from the bureaucratic predators. How to get around the bureaucrats, and who among them are still patriots. There are bad and good in every walk of life, and if bureaucrats can see that they too can join in renewing freedom, this struggle shall end in victory that much faster! Motivating them as officers to actually stand up and as a group demand that laws start getting scrapped. Tell them that they wouldn't have so many cops and bureaucrats in their lives if there weren't so many laws for them to enforce. Make it plain that their lives will NEVER get better if they let themselves keep being hypnotized by that electronic narcotic called the TV.

Teach the People how to physically defend themselves and their communities. Yes, if you love freedom this would include the safe and effective use of firearms and when to do it. Your police and military training makes you a natural choice to teach the People. Yes, this incurs the risk of being labeled a 'militia', but for hundreds of years the gathering of all able bodied adults in case of a collective danger was a key part of American civilization. They organized and drilled and shot their rifles in public square it was that enshrined. It was when a permanent, standing US Army and a permanent standing professional police force that the Citizen's Militia quietly faded away from American public life.

The militia isn't a bad thing actually. If you actually read the older historical accounts there are examples-like during the 1800's when the James Gang got cut to pieces in Minnesota; the townsfolk got their guns and resisted, and won. Likewise, in Athens, Tennessee in 1946; returning GI's tried to win a local election to clean the crooks that had been running the town into the ground for decades. The crooks attempted to rig the election and went so far as to hide in the jail and shoot at gunpoint anyone who tried to stop them. The GI's borrowed some National Guard rifles and shot it out with them, and won. More recently, a few years ago, the State of New York attempted to enforce cigarrette taxes on a Native American Tribe and came with dozens of State Troopers; the entire Tribe greeted them with muzzles of their assault rifles? the Governor wisely negotiated a compromise.

So that's the point: collective resistance works! And it doesn't and shouldn't if at all possible have to be violent. A second hand personal story: days after the Columbine massacre a public school mandated ID tags for every student? obstensivly to stop a massacre. A bunch of them got together and smuggled in water guns painted to look like real guns, and objects made to look like sticks of dynamite. They presented them to the principal and asked him if ID tags stopped them from bringing in their made up weapons, and would it stop real weapons from getting in? the ideal was scrapped.

Peaceful noncompliance works if done en masse. The emphasis should be first local; pushing back the bureaucracies that strangle our lives. Start small, always, and build on that. First you and your people could do something like get the parking meters removed. Then build on that with pushing back niggling housing codes. Your weapons are your wallets; collectively threaten to wage a tax strike, or a labor strike(don't forget to prepare with extra cash and food).

Then expand to strike at the big oppressions; property taxes, traffic laws, anti-constitutional gun bans, drivers licenses and car plates, caps on laws made. Each victory builds on itself and similar advances made by other like minded individuals. YOU can lead this; you have the drilled in discipline, social standing and leadership, AND, you know something of the dirty tricks the bureaucrats and traitor cops will pull to stop us. You're in a position to protect this necessary revolution. Yes? a revolution to win back what our ancestors gave all for over two centuries ago.

Together we can resist and win back our freedom. Our first obstacle to unifying as a people is to overcome our racial and caste barriers-and as a cop, you are part of a caste? call it the enforcement caste, made up of bureaucrats and law enforcement. You as a American must reach out to those that have been maneuvered and manipulated to be your intended enemies, the working and underclass castes-the people you're sent out to roust for fines and make busts on.

Unite with them, because our enemies are the lawyer caste that makes and judges on the 'laws' they make, and the caste of the super rich. These people buy the lawyers out, and have systematically looted America of our industry, our technology, our prosperity, and by their house slave lawyers, bureaucrats, and cops, our freedoms. They've reduced us Americans to being a military state-our real economy, our society propped up on a life support of debt that they, the super rich can yank with but a few manipulations of their financial markets. They will most likely do this in a manner much like yanking the cord on life support for a dying man? which is what America is.

They want the world, and have used America to trample any and all opponents. They now look to use the last allotted strength of America's military might to batter the nations of Earth into a global empire run by them-with America to be consumed by economic and political collapse and a engineered multi-front civil war NOBODY but the super rich will win. And that's why you acting NOW to begin fighting for Freedom must be your one priority. This war we are in, it's bigger than one individual or family or community. But if you don't join the fight, you make victory for us all that much more difficult, and how will you face God with THAT crime on you?




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Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

this is not directed at any lawers ,,, i just thought it was ,interesting per our thread , the pulse of things to come....
 
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here's more wood for the fire

Exposing Condi Rice
Commentary
by Frosty Wooldridge
3-25-5


Last week, Condi Rice blurted out that she does not support lawless vigilantes patrolling America's vulnerable southern border. Never mind 10,000 illegal aliens cross nightly according to Time Magazine! She felt the Minute Man Project represented lawless behavior on the part of American citizens.

But the Christian Science Monitor presented disturbing news, March 22, 2005, "Concern is growing at the top levels of government about the US-Mexican border becoming a back door for terrorists entering the United States. While Al Qaeda infiltration across the nation's southern border has been a constant concern since 9/11, US officials cite recent intelligence giving the most definitive evidence yet that terrorists are planning to use it as an entry point - if they haven't already."

The report continues with, ""In the Brownsville sector alone, border patrol officials reported they caught 23,178 OTMs (other than Mexicans) crossing through August 2004," Mr. Ortiz says. "Of those, 16,616 were released."

Ortiz also points out that another loophole is entering Mexico through Brazil, where a visa is not required to travel to Mexico. "We believe there is an international Salafist jihad movement with a goal to attack the near enemy and far enemy - the US," says Richard Shultz, an international security expert at Tufts University's Fletcher School in Medford, Mass. "These terrorists are smart. They study these issues and learn from one other. And one way in is right through the southern security perimeter."

Since the president of the USA encourages illegal immigration, The Minute Man Project fills the bill and sports Americans from 50 states while numbering over 1000 volunteers. Congress is nervous. Condi Rice is upset. Bush is clueless.

Four years after 9/11 killed 3,000 people, Bush violates his oath of office. He has not and will not place troops on the border. He won't enforce immigration laws. He won't pursue employers of illegal aliens. He won't deport illegal aliens. He is clueless to the crime, drugs, school chaos, diseases and lawlessness facing all of us in every state in the Union. He insults Americans by telling them that Mexicans do the jobs that Americans won't do. He's doing nothing more than inviting 'working slaves' into our country from the Third World.
Therefore, Jim Gilchrist and Simcox created the Minute Man Project to do the jobs that Bush and Congress won't do. This is the largest citizen 'neighborhood watch' group ever assembled in defense of America.
Gilchrist said, "The Minute Man Project protests the refusal of the Congress and the president to protect our borders from illegal immigrants who have not had criminal or disease background checks thereby creating imminent danger to all Americans."

Charges of racism stem from pro-illegal immigration groups such as La Raza who encourage illegal migration. However, Gilchrist said, "The racism is all on the other side. People who want to protect and save America from this invasion include all colors, religions and nationalities."

"We are simply going about our Constitutional right to peaceful assembly," Gilchrist said. "We neither condone or endorse violence. Nothing will stand in our way to exercise our First Amendment rights."

What Gilchrist protests is the doublespeak of Condi Rice issue when she says, "We try and make sure that our borders are as safe as possible and that it is every important the laws of the United States be respected."

Fat chance! Mexico's Vincente Fox distributes handbooks showing his citizens HOW to break into the United States against our laws. She didn't utter one remark condemning a foreign president advocating breaking laws of another country. Over 20 million illegal aliens, half from Mexico, usurp our Constitutional government while Bush and Rice give lip service to the deadly crisis building within our country.

Over 500,000 illegal aliens fill our state and federal prisons, but Rice or Bush haven't blinked as they continue allowing, even encouraging illegals to cross our borders. Never mind what those half million illegals cost Americans in rapes, murders, robberies, extortion, auto theft, drug distribution and worse. Rice and Bush are so out of touch; it makes an American's head hurt.

But when American citizens, from 21 to 81 band together to protect and defend their own country, a major political figure calls them, "Vigilantes and we will not allow them to break the law." Ms. Rice, whose country are you working for?

Who pays your pay check? Whose Constitution did you swear to uphold?

Fellow Americans-what we have is a confrontation of Americans who demand our laws be carried out against a lawless elite who saunter through the Halls of Congress totally oblivious to the destruction of our country. Thomas Jefferson turns over in his grave daily!

If he were alive, he'd slap Bush upside the head to knock some sense into him. While we spend billions guarding Iraq's border, we suffer an invasion that will make 9/11 look like a kindergarten bubble blowing party. Twenty million illegal aliens is no small number and it grows by three million annually. We're being displaced out of our own country by a Third World invasion without an end to the line.

Bush and Rice need to take a primer on what the Constitution means. It means the rule of law is to be enforced by those who swear on the Bible to uphold its concepts. It doesn't mean working against citizens who make up the legal population of this society. It doesn't mean ignoring 20 million people illegally operating in the USA. It doesn't mean encouraging more terror by leaving the borders stark raving open to any nut case from the Middle East.
When Americans see a line of 50 state flags stabbed into the soil garnished with hundreds of the Stars and Stripes, they will once again stand for their country. It's worth fighting for. It's our country. It's our future. It's our children.

Rice and Bush don't know what's going on at the border. They are aloof, insulated, isolated and totally clueless. The Minute Man Project will be the next Boston Tea Party. Kind of like a two by four whacked upside Bush's and Rice's noggins to get their attention.

Frosty Wooldridge is a teacher and author who has bicycled 100,000 miles on six continents to see overpopulation up close and ugly. His explosive new book is: "IMMIGRATION'S UNARMED INVASION: DEADLY CONSEQUENCES." Copies may be obtained: 1 888 280 7715 www.frostywooldridge.com

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Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

That's right; modern American policing is destroying America. It's a preening cult of overtestosteroned man-children; 'cowboys' looking for the slightest excuse to wreck some lives to make busts? for the 'law'.
Were you mugged, raped, murdered or splattered over the road by a drunk driver today? No? Your welcome.:)
 
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Posted on Sun, Mar. 27, 2005

Bill takes aim at polygamist group in west Texas

BY BILL HANNA
Knight Ridder Newspapers


FORT WORTH, Texas - (KRT) - A Kerrville, Texas, lawmaker is trying to make it harder for a polygamist group that is building a compound south of San Angelo to practice some of its more controversial beliefs.

The Fundamentalist Church of Latter-day Saints, which has historically been based in the twin towns of Colorado City, Ariz., and Hildale, Utah, began erecting buildings on the YFZ Ranch near Eldorado in Schleicher County about a year ago.

Former members have accused the group of coercing girls as young as 14 to marry, sometimes to their relatives, and staging a political takeover of local government in Colorado City and Hildale.

A bill filed by state Rep. Harvey Hilderbran, R-Kerrville, would raise the minimum age of marriage with parental consent from 14 to 16, make it illegal for stepparents to marry stepchildren and toughen residency requirements to run for office.

A separate bill filed by Hilderbran would also allow the Schleicher County hospital district to switch from at-large seats to single-member districts to prevent the sect from taking control of the board and its funds.
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http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/...s/breaking_news...
 

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