Part #9 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 17, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[02:20] <AlexanderTT> and i can not have it in 2039
[02:20] <Link22> how can mankind survive if nobody has kids in 2039?
[02:20] <Thelper> Alexander your desires are your egos, if you were not meant to have family this is the path you were predained changing this may cuz problems
[02:20] <AlexanderTT> thelper you should know that I do meet someone in some worldline, why not here
[02:20] <bill300000> Mail Order Bride...
[02:20] <AlexanderTT> Link22, i never said nobody could
[02:20] <bill300000> theres a thougt
[02:21] <AlexanderTT> what is that?
[02:21] <AlexanderTT> mail order bride?
[02:21] <bill300000> there are many countries that have mail order brides..
[02:21] <bill300000> women who want to get married...
[02:21] <Link22> nah
[02:21] <AlexanderTT> literally? you order them by mail?
[02:21] <Link22> thats not love
[02:21] <AlexanderTT> thats sickening
[02:22] <bill300000> you write letters to them and see what happens..
[02:22] <Link22> i'd want to love a woman to have a child with her
[02:22] <Thelper> Alexander it is selfish of you to change you predained path and bring a soul into world not meant for his time, but this is just my opinion your actions may take form later in karma if it was wrong but it could however be your path I do not know if God allows time changing
[02:22] <bill300000> there are no guarantees
[02:22] <AlexanderTT> sickening
[02:22] <bill300000> To me it is but some people have had successs with it.
[02:22] <AlexanderTT> interesting idea, but no I thin I want to meet someone and talk to her face to face
[02:23] <bill300000> I dont blame you
[02:23] <Link22> Alex..did Texas have any well known names during the war? (people's names)
[02:23] <AlexanderTT> yes
[02:23] <Thelper> Your a soldier no?
[02:23] <Thelper> dont you have to go back?
[02:23] <AlexanderTT> yes thelper
[02:23] <Link22> can you tell me the names?..i won't say anything..just PM them to me
[02:23] <Thelper> dont you have rules?
[02:23] <Thelper> JT did
[02:23] <AlexanderTT> and if I dont? they cant stop me
[02:24] <Thelper> karma will
[02:24] <AlexanderTT> no Link22, and if you are one of the names it will be too much for you
[02:24] <Link22> why to much?
[02:24] <Thelper> you can not play God alexander changing the course of time is wrong you know this
[02:24] <AlexanderTT> and if its my destiny to never go back?
[02:25] <AlexanderTT> somehave not come back thelper
[02:25] <AlexanderTT> for various reasons
[02:25] <Thelper> perhaps only your truely self knows that answer
[02:25] <Thelper> you could be righjt
[02:25] <Thelper> you may have meant to come here
[02:25] <Link22> what if I told you my name Alex?
[02:25] <AlexanderTT> no Link22, i have explained this many times
[02:26] <Link22> sorry..i just want to know where I stand in the future
[02:26] <Thelper> I believe thou that if you go back you could be in trouble, I wouldnt suggest you stay in USA if you do chose to
[02:26] <Thelper> stay
[02:26] <catman1> When things start happening..you would have to hide..cause everyone would know you told the truth..and would want more answers fromyou!!
[02:26] <AlexanderTT> catman1, I know this
[02:26] <AlexanderTT> and I know where to hide if that were to happen
[02:27] <catman1> Except some people would still say its was a guess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:27] <Link22> haa haa haa your right
[02:27] <AlexanderTT> and you will know I am telling the truth before I leave anyway
[02:27] <catman1> I know your telling the truth now!!
[02:28] <AlexanderTT> i must be leaving shortly
[02:28] <Thelper> Alex read pm
[02:28] <catman1> ok nice chatting with you I will be back later on also!!
[02:28] <AlexanderTT> be sure to let everyone know about the new room
[02:28] <AlexanderTT> im not leaving yet
[02:28] <Link22> i like it in here better
[02:28] <catman1> I will let them know also!!
[02:28] <AlexanderTT> yes I agree
[02:28] <Link22> they kick people in the other room for the most immature reasons
[02:28] <Thelper> as will I
[02:28] <Thelper> alex read pm plz
[02:29] * Link22 is now known as DWOMT
[02:29] <DWOMT> thats better
[02:29] <AlexanderTT> i did
[02:29] <Thelper> k
[02:29] <catman1> People seem to be interested in learning in this room (for the most part)
[02:29] <AlexanderTT> also they would kick those who would confront me, I like those conversations the best!

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[02:30] <DWOMT> they also kick for saying the word "fricking"..i mean come on..there is nothing offensive about that word
[02:30] <DWOMT> they act like big babies in there
[02:30] <AlexanderTT> i want a new rule made right now!!
[02:30] <DWOMT> they just have no power in life..so an op is all they can grasp on to
[02:30] <catman1> ok
[02:30] <AlexanderTT> cursing is fine! it is graphical expressions of language and should not be supressed
[02:31] <DWOMT> i don't curse all that much..I just find the word fricking non-offensive
[02:31] <catman1> Is there anyone over you tahat can take that right away??
[02:31] <AlexanderTT> sometimes cursing is the only way to express how strong you feel
[02:32] <DWOMT> especially when you hurt yourself..haa haa haa
[02:32] <AlexanderTT> now lets all say it and not get kicked, fuck
[02:32] * AlexanderTT laughs
[02:32] <DWOMT> haa haa haa
[02:32] <DWOMT> you know Alex..I find it fascinating that Dragonball Z survives the war..simply amazing
[02:33] <AlexanderTT> a lot survives
[02:33] <AlexanderTT> entertainment is valuable
[02:33] <DWOMT> I watch Dragonball Z all the time
[02:33] <DWOMT> i always wish I could go Super Saiyan..haa haa haa
[02:33] <AlexanderTT> ssj lv 3 haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
[02:33] <DWOMT> I love when Goku goes SSJ3
[02:34] <AlexanderTT> ka...me....ah....ma....ha!!!
[02:34] <DWOMT> that was awesome
[02:34] <DWOMT> haa haa haa!!
[02:34] <DWOMT> do they show the english version of the show in your time?
[02:34] <AlexanderTT> of course
[02:34] <AlexanderTT> english is the world language
[02:34] <catman1> EVER SEEN SLIDERS??
[02:34] <DWOMT> it is??..haa haa haa
[02:35] <AlexanderTT> I hear of that show so much , it is supposed to be similar to how I travel
[02:35] <catman1> Yes
[02:36] <AlexanderTT> then why is it hard to understand?
[02:36] <DWOMT> here Alex..this URL will make you very happy
[02:36] <DWOMT> FUNimation Store Table of Contents
[02:36] <AlexanderTT> you dont have dbz x yet
[02:37] <AlexanderTT> pitty
[02:37] <DWOMT> when does that come out?
[02:37] <catman1> I watched an episode the other day and a man came back to when his younger self was 10 or so and helped him learn to fight to get rid of some bullies and it worked..nobody knew who he was...he said that event with the bullies had hurt him all his life!!
[02:37] <bill300000> not my cup of tea and probably not yours Alex but you never know...Write prison pen pals | female prisoner pen pals | women pen pals
[02:38] <DWOMT> haa haa haa!!!
[02:38] <bill300000> you might find one that is in there because her boyfriend had drugs in the house and got busted
[02:38] <AlexanderTT> i cant open the url
[02:38] <bill300000> Write prison pen pals | female prisoner pen pals | women pen pals
[02:38] <AlexanderTT> haha!! funny
[02:38] <DWOMT> i almost forgot...Trunks is a time traveler in DBZ..haa haa haa
[02:39] <DWOMT> comes from a bad future to warn Goku
[02:39] <bill300000> what ever your looking for it is here in this time you shouldnt have too hard a time finding a good woman..
[02:40] <AlexanderTT> thelper wishes to give me asylum
[02:40] <AlexanderTT> in australia
[02:40] <AlexanderTT> ther is something you all should know that is very serious
[02:40] <DWOMT> ok
[02:40] <bill300000> ok
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> do any of you remember me asking that guy for help with a divergence problem?
[02:41] <Thelper> I do
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> and he ignored
[02:41] <Thelper> yes
[02:41] <bill300000> yes
[02:41] <catman1> how far off is your timeline?
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> i have posted this on th eforums and also in the irc chat
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> i will explain now
[02:42] <Thelper> k
[02:42] <bill300000> k
[02:42] <AlexanderTT> my VGL reads 0.9 % divergence from my home, in this worldline, this has to be innacurate
[02:43] <AlexanderTT> trust me when I say this, it doesnt add up to what it should be
[02:43] <bill300000> that woujld be 99.1 correct
[02:43] <Thelper> what do u think it should be?
[02:43] <AlexanderTT> it is possible that I might be very "of course" so to speak
[02:43] <bill300000> it has changed from 99.something to 99.1 what happened?
[02:43] <AlexanderTT> I know this because it doesnt add up to the reports of johns readings
[02:44] <Thelper> well john was here thou
[02:44] <AlexanderTT> just trust me, I have done the required math several times over and over, this worldline might be farther from my home than expected
[02:45] <AlexanderTT> maybe there is an error in my math
[02:45] <Thelper> that is good then?
[02:45] <bill300000> johns divergence increased while he was here.
[02:45] <bill300000> so were at 99.1 percent is that correct...
[02:45] <AlexanderTT> yes as it should
[02:45] <AlexanderTT> my divergence has decreased
[02:45] <AlexanderTT> but thats not the point right now
[02:45] <bill300000> to 90.1 % accuracy
[02:46] <catman1> I understand that small things are different like baseball scores and things like that within 1%...is that correct??
[02:46] <DWOMT> could that divergence change be caused by you and John telling people of future events?..maybe making some slight changes to the events in peoples lives you encounter online?
[02:46] <AlexanderTT> yes catman1
[02:46] <bill300000> Johns stuff changed alot... Its the book....
[02:46] <AlexanderTT> possible but I believe my VGL is malfunctioning
[02:46] * thanatos1 has joined #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[02:46] <catman1> so giving people lottery number and sports scores would not be the same anyway!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:46] <Thelper> could be
[02:46] <Thelper> human errors always been
[02:46] <AlexanderTT> yes catman1
[02:47] <Thelper> what do you think it should be
[02:47] * Thelper has quit IRC (Quit: )
[02:47] <DWOMT> no need to freak anyone out..but i wonder if the Govt ever looked into the Titor story..and has people tagged now
[02:47] <bill300000> reboot your computer... DOH! you dont run windows in 2039!
[02:47] <AlexanderTT> if I am in a divergence of more than 8% I will never be able to return home
[02:48] * MadIce has joined #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[02:48] <AlexanderTT> and also the war I experienced may never happen in the same way
[02:48] <bill300000> lets just say that postings about 911 that had been up for months mysteriously disappeared out of a database and it broke after 9/11
[02:48] <bill300000> and we will leave it at that.
[02:49] <thanatos1> do i need a voice here?
[02:49] <thanatos1> i guess not
[02:49] <bill300000> sounds like more double memories...
[02:49] <AlexanderTT> my point being, if the war does not happen, I will be scared to use the C404 again for I will know that the VGL is malfunctioning, I could end up anywhere
[02:49] <DWOMT> while your here Alex..here's a really good source to keep up with the events in our time..it's updated every few minutes
[02:49] <DWOMT> DRUDGE REPORT 2014&#174;
[02:49] <bill300000> I'll clear off the couch for you alex!
[02:50] <bill300000> your going to know if there is a malfunction with in 3 weeks when the next accident/event occurs.
[02:50] <thanatos1> alex you reliase that you have lost some respect on the forum tonight
[02:50] <DWOMT> what's happening in 3 weeks?
[02:50] <AlexanderTT> why is that thanatos1?
[02:51] <bill300000> he didnt give an exact date he said by that time...
[02:51] <thanatos1> kpax is a respected member i have read the posts he has a good argument
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> and please provide urls
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> no he does not
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> and provide urls
[02:51] <thanatos1> urls to what
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> i will address his arguments
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> url to posts on the forum with losing respect for me as you say
[02:52] <thanatos1> haa haa haa wait and see
[02:52] <DWOMT> by that time what bill?
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa provide url
[02:52] <thanatos1> dont worry you wont lose youre little flock
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> do I sound worried?
[02:53] * AlexanderTT is so worried
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> i think I'm shaking
[02:53] <thanatos1> bying a little childish dont you think
[02:53] <DWOMT> being
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> hey they world needs a little humor now and then
[02:53] <thanatos1> i am mearly pointing out that people will lose respect
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> childish was earlier win KPAX flooded the room
[02:54] <thanatos1> hmmmm alex i think you really need to examine what you are saying
[02:54] <thanatos1> your behaviour now is out of character
[02:55] <MadIce> It's a good thing you have ops now. You can finally ban everyone who opposes your "ideas".
[02:55] <AlexanderTT> im just tired right now thanatos1, and I wish to lighten everyone up
[02:55] <thanatos1> if you are tired then rest
[02:55] <catman1> How come people who dont beleive or care for Alex follow him around???
[02:55] <thanatos1> stupidity achieves nothing
[02:56] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, actually as I said before you came, confrontation is my favorite chats
[02:56] <AlexanderTT> good point catman1
[02:56] <MadIce> I am watching how many people fall for his wormongering extremist nuclear holocaust predictions.
[02:57] <bill300000> <DWOMT> what's happening in 3 weeks?... Alex said that there would be some sort of an event happen before
[02:57] <thanatos1> debate is important when one makes a claim catman
[02:57] <bill300000> when was it the 12th
[02:57] <bill300000> I forget anyways that is what we know about the next 3 weeks...
[02:57] <thanatos1> otherwise you are subjecting yourself to the tyranny he describes
[02:57] <bill300000> nothing new it was posted weeks ago.
[02:58] <thanatos1> does that satisfy you
[02:58] <catman1> I understand..there are those who just look for a fight though!!
[02:58] <DWOMT> i'm just a skeptical person with an open mind here thanatos...i'm not following anyone
[02:58] <thanatos1> i ahve spoken before with alex
[02:58] <thanatos1> i am not interested in a fight
[02:58] <thanatos1> i am interested in the humanity of what he describes
[02:58] <thanatos1> and the lack of that he shows to us
[02:58] <DWOMT> maybe the truth is hard to swallow?
[02:59] <DWOMT> majority of people on the planet today are real idiots
[02:59] <thanatos1> which by the way he has not still answered to my satisfacton
[02:59] <DWOMT> i say this society deserves it's fate
[02:59] <AlexanderTT> thanatos1, according to you what is the worst case scenario of my information I am sharing?
[02:59] <thanatos1> worst case scenario alex is that you are wrong
[02:59] <AlexanderTT> wrong
[02:59] <thanatos1> think of the damge you are doing now
[02:59] <MadIce> You stir up people. Feed their fear.
[02:59] <DWOMT> yeah he might be wrong..but he's got a damn interesting story
[02:59] <thanatos1> do you not care?
[02:59] <AlexanderTT> worst case is that I am right and you die in a war!!
[02:59] <catman1> So if things dont happen..maybe we changed them...no harm done..and I would be gratefull to him for the information!!

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[03:00] <thanatos1> no
[03:00] * DWOMT is not afrai
[03:00] <thanatos1> i dont fear death
[03:00] <bill300000> best case scenario is he is wrong... because then we dont have to deal with a civil war etc
[03:00] <AlexanderTT> thanatos1, if I am wrong that is a good scenario and then it wont matter what I said
[03:00] <thanatos1> you must consider that what can we learn if all the answers are given
[03:00] <thanatos1> what does a child learn without experience?
[03:01] <DWOMT> so you want all the answers thanatos?
[03:01] <AlexanderTT> good point, which is why I do not tell you everything
[03:01] <thanatos1> yet you make us hate oursleves
[03:01] <thanatos1> for what we havent yet done
[03:01] <AlexanderTT> dont hate yourself, unless you contribute to the problem
[03:01] <thanatos1> i dont hate myself
[03:01] <AlexanderTT> good
[03:01] <MadIce> http://www.wws.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/bytes...9/7906/7906.PDF
[03:01] <thanatos1> nut there are others who do
[03:01] <thanatos1> but
[03:01] <DWOMT> Alex..thanatos points a perfect picture of how people are today. people in today's world want everything handed to them on a silver platter. they cannot stand it when nobody gives them what they want and right away
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> true DWOMT
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> most are so selfish right now
[03:02] <DWOMT> yes
[03:02] <thanatos1> you are not listening
[03:02] <thanatos1> haa haa haa
[03:02] <DWOMT> and it sickens me
[03:02] <thanatos1> that is always your way
[03:02] <MadIce> Read that report Alex.
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> truly thanatos1, what in the world do you see good going on today?
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> i cant MadIce
[03:02] <thanatos1> what was the point of the questions you posted one the board
[03:02] <thanatos1> if you dont listen
[03:03] <DWOMT> in a way i can understand Alex's position..if he does say something critical that comes true...it would cause a lot of trouble. even for you guys
[03:03] <MadIce> Of course not. You caan't because it shows your world can never exist.
[03:03] <thanatos1> that is because america lives in a constant stae of fear
[03:03] <AlexanderTT> the point was to instantly tell who is confrontational
[03:03] <thanatos1> you assume the rest of the world is the same
[03:03] <thanatos1> it is not
[03:03] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, is there a way to read it in html?
[03:04] <thanatos1> i see by youre own measure i am confrontational yes
[03:04] <AlexanderTT> no thanatos1, i have met good people here which is why I still talk here
[03:04] <AlexanderTT> not all are the same
[03:04] <AlexanderTT> so far and I love it!!
[03:04] <AlexanderTT> confrontational that is
[03:04] <catman1> I guess Alex its like going back to Germany and telling them Hitler is a horrible thing in 1930...no one would beleive you!!!
[03:04] <thanatos1> i ahve also met good people and my concern is for them not for you
[03:05] <AlexanderTT> good point catman1, or telling the wright brothers they were going to fly
[03:05] <MadIce> You order it from the university of Princeton: NTIS order #PB-296946
[03:05] <AlexanderTT> i cant access pdf files
[03:06] <MadIce> They'll send it to you.
[03:06] <AlexanderTT> sure thing let me give my address
[03:06] * AlexanderTT doesnt think so
[03:06] <thanatos1> do you alex accept any liability for your actions if you are wrong?
[03:06] <MadIce> I don't want your address, Alex.
[03:06] <AlexanderTT> if I am wrong, then everybody will laugh and say, "WELL I GUESS HE WAS WRONG!"
[03:07] <thanatos1> really
[03:07] <thanatos1> as that what the folllowers of nancy lieder saying?
[03:07] <MadIce> You are already wrong in so many ways. It just just that people want you to believe. You want attention. You troll for attention. That's all.
[03:07] <AlexanderTT> if not you will probably kill yourself, do to the fact that you are a coward, i can tell, the way you type and the things you say reflect this
[03:07] <DWOMT> once again I am not a follower..just a curious mind
[03:07] <thanatos1> and why do you care,, this world is a shadow world created because you are here?>
[03:08] <thanatos1> really a coward
[03:08] <thanatos1>

[03:08] <AlexanderTT> i dont believe I created a cult here, who thinks that?
[03:08] <thanatos1> so well you know me
[03:08] <DWOMT> i love that word..."troll"..haa haa haa...such a lame little term people cooked up
[03:08] <MadIce> Why bother with a waste world.
[03:09] <AlexanderTT> a wate world? none is a waste all will join in the end
[03:09] <thanatos1> alex answer my question, you know me so well to call me a coward?
[03:09] <DWOMT> i'm not your follower Alex...i just find your story interesting...therefore there is no cult
[03:09] <AlexanderTT> all are here for a reason
[03:09] <catman1> iI came here of my own doing!!!
[03:09] <AlexanderTT> everyone is here of there on free will even me
[03:09] <thanatos1> did i accuse you of being a cult?
[03:09] <AlexanderTT> yes you did
[03:09] <DWOMT> you used words like "flock"
[03:09] <thanatos1> have i said otherwise
[03:10] <thanatos1> where
[03:10] <DWOMT> "followers"
[03:10] <DWOMT> should I go on?
[03:10] <thanatos1> the word not the man
[03:10] <thanatos1> yes please do go on
[03:10] <AlexanderTT> are you getting confused?
[03:10] <DWOMT> your words point to what you think
[03:10] <thanatos1> no i am not
[03:10] <AlexanderTT> do you want to know how I know you are a coward?
[03:11] <AlexanderTT> or are you scared to see yourself in my explanation?
[03:11] <AlexanderTT> cmon a simple yes or no
[03:11] <AlexanderTT> afraid?
[03:12] <AlexanderTT> losing faith in your ideals?
[03:12] <AlexanderTT> is your logic failing you?
[03:12] <AlexanderTT> come on thanatos1, you wanted confrontation with your enemy
[03:12] <thanatos1> there is a little saying where i come from ,, gather like cattle and ye shall be herd
[03:12] <thanatos1> does this mean a cult?
[03:12] <DWOMT> besides..you seem to be fixiated with Alex thanatos for someone who doesn't care?..everyone here has already stated they are here freely..so why not just go mind your own business if it's not that important?
[03:12] <DWOMT> people just can't keep their nose out of everyone elses business anymore
[03:12] <DWOMT> truely pathetic
[03:12] <thanatos1> sigh dwomt,,i followed the story of john
[03:12] <DWOMT> so did I
[03:12] <thanatos1> yes alex do say
[03:12] <thanatos1> no i am not
[03:12] <thanatos1> no
[03:13] <thanatos1> no
[03:13] <AlexanderTT> ok my explanation...
[03:13] <thanatos1> haa haa haa really
[03:13] <thanatos1> do you recall our conversation with lexycat a few nights ago?
[03:15] <AlexanderTT> you confront me , but really you try to confront your fear that I am right, if you were not scared of a coming war you would be saying things like, "hmm thats interesting way to look at it" and " I dont think I see that coming" , instead you try to mask your fear by confronting letters on a computer screen instead of looking at your own cowardice and how you are afraid of the possiblilty I might be right
[03:15] <AlexanderTT> you will move into the city my friend
[03:15] <DWOMT> damn good explanation there Alex..haa haa haa
[03:15] <AlexanderTT> I already know that, if you live in the US
[03:16] <thanatos1> haa haa haa i live in asutralia
[03:16] <AlexanderTT> well then learn to speak chinese
[03:16] <thanatos1> and i havent ruled out the possibility you are right
[03:16] <AlexanderTT> fpr a short time
[03:16] <thanatos1> now you are being arrogant wthout letting me reply
[03:16] <AlexanderTT> reply
[03:16] <thanatos1> you damn yourself with your attitude
[03:17] <thanatos1> my fear is not the outcome
[03:17] <AlexanderTT> sorry for my attitude but it is a reflection of how I have been treated today
[03:17] <thanatos1> i blieve in one way or another this is inevitable
[03:17] <thanatos1> my fear if you wish to call it that is we lose our humanness
[03:18] <MadIce> How about you? How did you treat people with your sick stories?
[03:18] <DWOMT> we already are
[03:18] <DWOMT> MadIce has got to be one of the biggest crybabies i have ever seen
[03:18] <AlexanderTT> i dont understand the question MadIce, I have tried to be benefitial to all who want ansers
[03:19] <catman1> Did JohnTitor go through all this also???
[03:19] <DWOMT> a grown man who gets so sensitive over things...instead of just simply clicking the ignore button
[03:19] <thanatos1> i am resigned to the fact that the world will not be such a nice place in the furture, not because of your words but because the evidence suggest that our need for competition in a croded world will cause friction
[03:19] <MadIce> Well, if you are from another time and use Everett then what you are doing is pointless. It is just stirring up the place, Alex. Nothing more.
[03:19] <thanatos1> but if we lose our very humanity by inciting fear and hatred
[03:19] <thanatos1> what do we become
[03:20] <thanatos1> i do not want a validation from you or anyone else for what the world will be
[03:20] <thanatos1> why dont you tell us what we CAN be
[03:20] <AlexanderTT> let take the other side of the story for a moment, lets say I am a complete liar, then what in the world do you have to lose sleep over, just choose not to read my posts turn off the computer and spend time with your family
[03:20] <DWOMT> we are already losing our humanity..everyday i see the general public full of selfish mindless drones
[03:20] <AlexanderTT> i have thanatos1, have you read my conversation with pheonix talking about how wondeful my home is?
[03:20] <thanatos1> because i followed a story that piqued my interest
[03:21] <thanatos1> you assert that you are from the same story
[03:21] <thanatos1> natural curiosity brought me here
[03:21] <AlexanderTT> ok then draw your own conclusions, you will no matter wha tI say
[03:21] <thanatos1> wonderfull is perspective alex
[03:21] <AlexanderTT> so why waste your time on confronting me
[03:21] <thanatos1> there are any who say wonderfuill where i am from today
[03:22] <MadIce> How do you grow oranges in a nuclear Winter, Alex?
[03:22] <thanatos1> am i so confronting
[03:22] <AlexanderTT> thanatos1, we have no poverty , no greed, no wants, we are all happy, my home is wonderful
[03:22] <thanatos1> then why do you hate so much
[03:22] <DWOMT> sounds like a place i'd love to live in
[03:22] <AlexanderTT> nuclear winter does not happen, the theory is wrong
[03:22] <MadIce> Haha
[03:22] <AlexanderTT> who said I hate?
[03:23] <MadIce> Divergence?
[03:23] <thanatos1> it is in everything you write
[03:23] <thanatos1> its what fascinates me about you
[03:23] <thanatos1> you talk of hope but spout anarchy anger hatred fear
[03:23] <DWOMT> why laugh Madice?..nuclear war has not happened..so our theories on nuclear winter may not even be correct
[03:23] <thanatos1> why!!!!
[03:23] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, how many times have you been in a nuclear war, or how many times has the people claiming nuclear winters been in one?
[03:23] <DWOMT> exactly Alex
[03:23] <AlexanderTT> i dont see the hat in what I write
[03:24] <MadIce> DWOMT: Are you there? So you know it did not happen. You believe Alex because he says so? Poor you.
[03:24] <thanatos1> maybee tahts it YOU dont see it
[03:24] <thanatos1> many of us do
[03:24] <AlexanderTT> i dont see anarchy anger and hatred
[03:24] <thanatos1> are we invalid
[03:24] <thanatos1> our opinions not noteworthy
[03:24] <thanatos1> are we not allowed to question
[03:24] <DWOMT> I never said i believed him MadIce..I just have an open mind that it could happen..or it couldn't. nuclear war has not happened..so how could we know
[03:24] <AlexanderTT> I love your questions
[03:24] <MadIce> You just did
[03:25] <thanatos1> no you dont i am a cowrd by your own words
[03:25] <DWOMT> <DWOMT> why laugh Madice?..nuclear war has not happened..so our theories on nuclear winter may not even be correct
[03:25] <thanatos1> !
[03:25] <MadIce> Shall I quote you? I have the logs on DWOMT
[03:25] <DWOMT> "MAY NOT EVEN BE CORRECT"
[03:25] <DWOMT> MAY"
[03:25] <DWOMT> being the key word
[03:25] <AlexanderTT> no thanatos1, you sound like a coward when you are not asking intelligent questions and are intentionally trying to soot my story up
[03:26] <thanatos1> i am not trying to shoot your story
[03:26] <DWOMT> MadIce..you really must have lived a sheltered life as a child. Be a man for a god sakes, stop acting like the little kid who tattles on the school playground
[03:26] <thanatos1> i can do that on the board intelligently
[03:26] <AlexanderTT> it sounds like it to me, any other opinions?
[03:26] <thanatos1> i want to know what motivates you
[03:26] <thanatos1> i see have i pestered you to empiricly prove anything here?
[03:26] <AlexanderTT> my home and my loved ones motivate me, nothing here
[03:27] <MadIce> Thanks, DWOMT. I love your style.
[03:27] <thanatos1> have a tried to argue against your cunstruct?
[03:27] <DWOMT> I love yours to MadIce..reminds me of a child
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> I got logs!
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> I got logs!
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> I got logs!
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> I'm special!
[03:27] <MadIce> Yep
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> look at me!
[03:27] <AlexanderTT> thanatos1, the way you come across sound very confrontational to me
[03:27] <thanatos1> then why are you here alex ,, if nothing here
[03:27] <DWOMT> <MadIce> I can tattle!
[03:27] <thanatos1> ask the room
[03:28] <thanatos1> sigh
[03:28] <catman1> Alex...I bet if you talked to the poor and homeless they would listen..because they are tired of the rich against the poor and I beleive they would be happy to see the whole mess in DC gone!!!
[03:28] <thanatos1> you see confrontation in everything
[03:28] <AlexanderTT> i feel for the ones I have been talking to thanatos1
[03:28] <thanatos1> i am asking a valid question and you shun my answers
[03:28] <thanatos1> especially the other evening
[03:28] <AlexanderTT> i see a potential enemy in everything here, should I be wrong to think that?
[03:28] <thanatos1> you do not like to talk about your humanity
[03:28] <thanatos1> are ashamed
[03:29] <thanatos1> are you ashamed?
[03:29] <AlexanderTT> i can not relate to you on that level
[03:29] <thanatos1> why
[03:29] <thanatos1> are you not human?
[03:29] <AlexanderTT> does anyone else think he is treating me like a child trying to belittle my answers?
[03:29] <thanatos1> you tell us you feel,,, so feel

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[03:30] <AlexanderTT> you do not feel as I do
[03:30] <catman1> yes
[03:30] <thanatos1> i am NOT belittling you
[03:30] <thanatos1> that is not my intention
[03:30] <thanatos1> i want you to answer the questions
[03:30] <thanatos1> simple
[03:30] <thanatos1> yet you avoid
[03:30] <DWOMT> "if" (to Clarify for MadIce)...if Alex is telling the truth..War veterans do not open up that easily
[03:30] <AlexanderTT> then maybe you should reword your questions
[03:31] <thanatos1> haa haa haa fair enough, am i so unclear
[03:31] <DWOMT> my grandfather fought in World War 2...my other grandfather in Vietnam. both had trouble talking about what they experienced
[03:31] <thanatos1> my grandfather died inww2 concentration camp
[03:31] <thanatos1> he was slaughtered like an animal
[03:31] <DWOMT> sorry to hear that
[03:32] <AlexanderTT> im sorry thanatos1
[03:32] <thanatos1> but yes i am a coward
[03:32] <MadIce> Yes. But there is a difference, DWOMT. You grandfathers did fight in a war.
[03:32] <catman1> My father in law fought hand to hand in WW2...and he says ""I would have never thought that my country would be like it is now...there is going to be r.e.b.e.l.l.i.o.n. someday!!!
[03:32] <thanatos1> for feeling
[03:32] <thanatos1> !
[03:32] <DWOMT> my grandfather was the first wave of troops to hit normandy beach on June 6, 1944 catman
[03:32] <DWOMT> and he survived it
[03:32] <AlexanderTT> what do you truly want to know from me thanatos1, no games, I will try to explain to you anything you want
[03:32] <MadIce> I believe you, DWOMT. Don't get me wrong.
[03:33] <thanatos1> my ancestors where not combatants ,, just an excuse
[03:33] <DWOMT> all my ancestors were warriors
[03:33] <catman1> my father in law was liberation of the Phillippeans
[03:33] <thanatos1> you treat some of us with contempt alex and you dont reliase it
[03:33] <DWOMT> especially the native american side of my family
[03:33] <DWOMT> i come from a bloodline of warriors
[03:33] <thanatos1> you think we dont know what it means to survive
[03:33] <thanatos1> and still be human
[03:33] <AlexanderTT> no matter what you say MadIce, you cannot prove that I did not fight in the Constitutional war
[03:34] <AlexanderTT> no, i think you dont know as a WHOLE SOCIETY what it is like to be human
[03:34] <MadIce> And you do?
[03:34] * MadIce shrugs
[03:34] <thanatos1> i think you haVe more learning to do
[03:34] <AlexanderTT> yes
[03:35] <thanatos1> that is why you said you are here
[03:35] <thanatos1> but you shun us when we want to talk
[03:35] <AlexanderTT> we give without recieving, power, money these things are meaningless to us
[03:35] <thanatos1> do you see my point?
[03:35] <DWOMT> sorry Alex..have to disagree there..there is still human sides in society today
[03:35] <AlexanderTT> i dont want to shun
[03:35] <catman1> Alex..if you had good news....probably no one would argue with you and say "Hope he's right"!!
[03:35] <AlexanderTT> i do have good news
[03:36] <catman1> I mean "all" good news
[03:36] <AlexanderTT> but it happens after the worst time for humanity
[03:36] <thanatos1> you must understand my discussion with you is personall to me
[03:36] <AlexanderTT> ask your questions thanatos1
[03:36] <AlexanderTT> i will answer
[03:36] <MadIce> What a wonderfull society you must live in. I love the double standards. First you nuke the world. And then you make it better,
[03:37] <AlexanderTT> well should we have nuked it again?
[03:37] <thanatos1> i am a skeptic of timetravell but that has no consequence here,, it is not your story that drew me to irc
[03:37] <AlexanderTT> or maybe no nukes and live as slaves?
[03:37] <MadIce> You should not nuke it all all.
[03:37] <AlexanderTT> then what drew you thanatos1
[03:37] <DWOMT> I have to agree with MadIce on that point.
[03:37] <DWOMT> there had to be another way besides nukes..there's always another way
[03:38] <AlexanderTT> you want years from now DWOMT
[03:38] <thanatos1> the story
[03:38] <thanatos1>

[03:38] <AlexanderTT> you just said the story did not draw you here
[03:38] <thanatos1> no i said your story
[03:38] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..but the "me" in 2015 will still believe there had to be another way
[03:39] <thanatos1> johns story is why i am here
[03:39] <DWOMT> dropping nukes to kill off millions of fellow americans just seems harsh
[03:40] <AlexanderTT> and do you see anger, hatred in johns story?
[03:40] <thanatos1> i felt a resonance of truth in his story that i feel with nobody esle's
[03:40] <DWOMT> thats like saying in the first Civil War..the north should have completely 100% destroyed the South..including killing 80% of the slaves. Just so they can be free and not slaves
[03:40] <thanatos1> yes indeed
[03:40] <thanatos1> but i dont think he is a time traveller
[03:40] <AlexanderTT> why then the similarities I wonder in our story?
[03:40] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created?
[03:41] <thanatos1> haa haa haa that is why i am here
[03:41] <AlexanderTT> what do you think he is thanatos1, pm me that answer
[03:41] <thanatos1> you tell me
[03:41] <thanatos1> i dont know alex
[03:41] <thanatos1> but he believed what he said i think
[03:41] <AlexanderTT> i want to be clear once again on this subject
[03:42] * DWOMT reads a magazine while Alex types
[03:42] <AlexanderTT> I was present the day the order was given, me and many others, the descision was unanimous we would not make another one even know knowing what it did
[03:43] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are the honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created?
[03:43] <DWOMT> answer his question Alex
[03:44] <AlexanderTT> you mis understand our position at the time and you mis understand worldlines
[03:44] <AlexanderTT> i did not create this one
[03:44] <AlexanderTT> a difference did
[03:44] <MadIce> I do not, Alex. I know everything about the Everett theory.
[03:44] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..if I'm alive at that time...I would not have supported the death of millions of americans by nukes and radiation.
[03:45] <DWOMT> i know myself...i'd be afraid of fleeing the radiation
[03:45] <DWOMT> I'd think of another way
[03:45] <AlexanderTT> yes it is true that one worldline was created by my journey and many others will be created by the different choices I make with every thought I have
[03:46] <MadIce> But thanks for the answer Alex. You once again proved you were making up a story about how worldline fit your logic. At least John Titor did not do that.
[03:46] <AlexanderTT> but yours is not a waste
[03:49] <DWOMT> this room just went silent
[03:50] * Thelper has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks
[03:50] <Thelper> back
[03:50] <catman1> still here
[03:50] <DWOMT> front
[03:50] <MadIce> Yay!
[03:50] <Thelper> I dont like this mirc program
[03:51] <Thelper> alex gone?
[03:52] <DWOMT> don't know
[03:52] <DWOMT> he got quiet
[03:52] <Thelper> i c
[03:52] <DWOMT> you know, why are all TTers men?..haa haa haa..we need some women TTers
[03:52] <catman1> Alex are you here?
[03:53] <DWOMT> hmmm
[03:53] <DWOMT> there must be a PM battle going on
[03:53] <DWOMT> I sense it
[03:53] <Thelper> http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html
[03:53] <AlexanderTT> i am talking to thanatos1
[03:54] * Cyberbomb has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks
[03:54] <Cyberbomb> hi all =D
[03:54] <catman1> hi
[03:55] <Thelper> hi
[03:55] <Thelper> http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html
[03:55] <Thelper> read that article
[03:55] <Cyberbomb> heh, I seen that earler =D
[03:56] <Thelper> new mutated cow deases
[03:56] <Thelper> interesting isnt it
[03:56] <AlexanderTT> not new
[03:57] <Thelper> since JT said mad cow desease will become a problem
[03:57] <Cyberbomb> yeah, wonder how long it is till it speads fast then the mydoom virus =D
[03:57] <Thelper> well to them they renamed it base
[03:57] <Thelper> so something is different
[03:57] <Thelper> mad cow isnt doom virus
[03:57] <Thelper> it spread through meat no?
[03:57] <Cyberbomb> heh, im making a comparison on how it might spread at the same speed =P
[03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all open e-mail attachments
[03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all eat meat =P
[03:58] <Thelper> cyber you really interesting in spiritually?
[03:58] <Cyberbomb> simularity, i think so >=D
[03:58] <Thelper> finding one self?
[03:58] <Thelper> cuz I know of course im observing starts on 20th
[03:58] <Thelper> if your interested
[03:58] <Thelper> its free and online
[03:58] <Cyberbomb> rofl, why would I spend so much tiem reading this stuff and going to astral theklper =P
[03:58] <Thelper> i get u link then
[03:59] <Thelper> http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html
[03:59] <Cyberbomb> wait wait, I got school, it might cut into that
[03:59] * catman1 has quit IRC (Client closed connection)
[03:59] <Thelper> have look it thou
[03:59] <Cyberbomb> ok
[03:59] <Thelper> starts on 20th
[03:59] <Thelper> its online and free

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[04:00] <Thelper> brb
[04:00] <AlexanderTT> thelper are you a preacher or something?
[04:01] * catman1 has joined #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[04:01] <Cyberbomb> haa haa haa alex
[04:02] <Cyberbomb> no, hes just giving me some extra insight into astral =D
[04:02] <MadIce> I rather see a Jehova Witness than one who preaches nuclear war.
[04:02] <Cyberbomb> hmm, I must get to school, l8r yall
[04:02] * Cyberbomb is now known as Cyberbomb`School
[04:02] <AlexanderTT> certain things are starting to become clear to me now
[04:03] <Thelper> ?
[04:04] <Thelper> what coming clear?
[04:06] <Thelper> cyber did I give ya the colors reference page?
[04:07] <Thelper> cyber that course will teach you certain phrases to use vs negatives that hold power, I use acient ones that my time knows of but your time doesnt so them are ok just not as powerful...
[04:07] <Thelper> alex
[04:07] <Thelper> what is coming clear?
[04:07] <catman1> What is clear now???
[04:07] <MadIce> Cyber is off to school, THelper
[04:07] <Thelper> pj
[04:07] <Thelper> oh
[04:08] <Thelper> where is alex gone
[04:08] <Thelper> what did mean by become clear to me now?
[04:08] <MadIce> I am also interested what exactly became clear to him.
[04:08] <Thelper> mad are you interested in learning how to leave body?
[04:08] <Thelper> and explore other dimentions?
[04:09] <MadIce> No, thank you, THelper.
[04:09] <Thelper> k
[04:09] <Thelper> so where is alex?
[04:10] <MadIce> He is AFK
[04:10] <Thelper> oh
[04:12] <AlexanderTT> it has become apparent to me thanks to my new friend thanatos1, that my story and the way I am telling it is the wrong way
[04:13] <MadIce> Not to insult you, bit it is not only wrong... It is disgusting.
[04:14] <GearBrains> away
[04:17] <catman1> are you going to tell it over a different way??
[04:17] <Thelper> ?
[04:17] <AlexanderTT> a message to all: Few times a situation arises that brings the best and the worst out of people at the same time.I wish not to spread thoughts of hate for those who were killed in the war.We did not hate them.We were only defending ourselves.If a better way was available we would have gladly have taken it.It should not have come to violence and it is sad it did.The war was not agood thing my friends, only what we built after it was good.
[04:18] <Thelper> true
[04:18] <Thelper> voilence isnt the answer but I guess they were forced too
[04:19] <catman1> is it possible to have a Civil War and not WW3!!!!
[04:19] <AlexanderTT> defending ones liberty should not have to happen, but it did , we did not choose to kill our own to defend ourselves we were forced.It brings you great sadness to do something like that
[04:19] <Thelper> I c
[04:20] <DWOMT> i just don't like the idea of americans fighting and killing other americans
[04:20] <Thelper> I think that if ww3 dont happen we will eventually destroy our selfs
[04:20] <MadIce> That does not mean this have to happen here on the world you have created by jumping here. Instead of trying to change events you are consolidating them.
[04:20] <Thelper> cuz wont have learn't
[04:20] <AlexanderTT> i do not hate you, but old habits die hard, and I had a long habit of fighting people with the same veiws I come across now
[04:21] <DWOMT> what about me Alex?..does your view see me as the enemy?
[04:21] <Thelper> alex did u figure out the diverence problem
[04:21] <Thelper> u said u might be wrong
[04:21] <Thelper> about this world?
[04:21] <Thelper> how much by?
[04:21] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, if you truly want to change the events, then I will guide you, but you will bring something much worse on yourself later down the road
[04:22] <DWOMT> like Alien invasion..haa haa haa..j/k
[04:22] <AlexanderTT> i do not wish to rally you into fighting your countrymen
[04:22] <MadIce> AlexanderTT: If you believe in fait then you do not believe in freedom.
[04:22] <AlexanderTT> it is the worst time of america and the world follows
[04:22] <Thelper> I c
[04:22] <Thelper> imalex
[04:22] <Thelper> the diverence?
[04:23] <DWOMT> I'm curious Alex..in the Constitutional War..were young and old all fighting?..Did any World War 2 or Vietnam vets come to your aid with their experience?
[04:23] <AlexanderTT> yes DWOMT
[04:23] <Thelper> the diverence?
[04:23] <DWOMT> really?..i am glad to hear that
[04:23] <Thelper> u said u might be wrong
[04:23] <Thelper> the diverence?
[04:23] <Thelper> how much by?
[04:23] <DWOMT> I would hope that the WW2 vets would have helped out somehow
[04:23] <AlexanderTT> the young were the most motivated due to there views on the subject
[04:24] <Thelper> u said u might be wrong
[04:24] <Thelper> how much by?
[04:24] <Thelper> the diverence?
[04:24] <AlexanderTT> i dont know thelper I have to find a mathematician
[04:24] <AlexanderTT> maybe he can figure it out
[04:24] <Thelper> is it wenough for the war not to come
[04:24] <DWOMT> i wish my grandfather was still alive..he would be of great help
[04:24] <Thelper> ?
[04:25] <MadIce> WW2 veterans were dead in his time. Vietnam vets would be... between 80 and 100 in his time?
[04:25] <DWOMT> i'm talking about during the war MadIce
[04:25] <DWOMT> not 2039
[04:25] <AlexanderTT> i will give musch thought into the new insight thanatos1, has shown me and will try to deliver my message differently, maybe I can show you all compassion
[04:25] <Thelper> alex
[04:26] <DWOMT> 2005-2015....had to be WW2 vets and Vietnam vers still alive
[04:26] <DWOMT> vers=vets
[04:26] <Thelper> is the diverence enough so that your wrong about civil war?
[04:26] <Thelper> and www3?
[04:26] <AlexanderTT> dont know thelper, i am not wrong so far
[04:26] <AlexanderTT> everything is happening as it did in my history
[04:26] <Thelper> cuz it has to happen
[04:26] <Thelper> or my time wont exsist
[04:26] <AlexanderTT> yes thelper one way or another
[04:26] <catman1> How old is your other self??
[04:27] <DWOMT> i'm the divergence Alex
[04:27] <DWOMT> your history didn't have me!
[04:27] <DWOMT> ha!
[04:27] <DWOMT> ka...me...ka..me haaaaa!
[04:27] <AlexanderTT> he is 4 and on the bed asleep right now
[04:27] <Thelper> can u feel him
[04:27] <Thelper> ?
[04:27] <Thelper> ther connection?
[04:27] <catman1> Who does he think you are??
[04:28] <DWOMT> maybe a relative?
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> i'm not sure
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> he hasnt asked
[04:28] <DWOMT> does he talk to you?
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> I guess he assumes
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> yes I love talking to him
[04:28] <catman1> Did you ever see pictures of yourself in your time...does he look like the pictures??
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> and playing with him
[04:28] <DWOMT> that must be freaky
[04:28] <AlexanderTT> he looks identical
[04:29] <DWOMT> i'd feel very weird in your position
[04:29] <AlexanderTT> you get used to it quickly DWOMT
[04:29] <Thelper> can u sense him?
[04:29] <catman1> so the time line cant be too far off or would he not look a little different??
[04:29] <AlexanderTT> i feel a love for him I would describe as a son, but I have no children so I do not know for sure
[04:29] * thanatos1 has quit IRC (Quit: —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— 2.0 Build 2104)

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[04:30] <Thelper> im
[04:30] <Thelper> can u sense him?
[04:30] <DWOMT> hey Alex..i know you once told me San Antonio gets nuked..what about the rest of south texas outside San Antonio?..is it all covered with radiation?
[04:30] <AlexanderTT> i do not wish to talk of war right now
[04:31] <DWOMT> oh sorry
[04:31] <Thelper> me either
[04:31] <Thelper> alex
[04:31] <Thelper> can u sense him?
[04:31] <Thelper> yourself
[04:31] <AlexanderTT> somewhat thelper
[04:31] <AlexanderTT> i know when he enters the same room I am in whithout looking
[04:31] <Thelper> if he got hurt would u feel it?
[04:32] <AlexanderTT> no I havent felt anything like that
[04:32] <Thelper> hmm this is confusing I didnt think timetravel in physcial form was possible
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[04:32] <Thelper> this is like movie the one
[04:33] <Thelper> I saw that month ago
[04:33] <Thelper> on a video
[04:33] <HereAndNow> hello everyone
[04:33] <catman1> Hello Here and Now
[04:33] <HereAndNow> how is every body?
[04:33] <catman1> Alex how long have you been awake??
[04:34] <AlexanderTT> far too long
[04:34] <HereAndNow> hello again AlexanderTT
[04:34] <AlexanderTT> its 6:33 am here
[04:34] <catman1> I know a couple hours ago you were ready to leave
[04:34] <AlexanderTT> and I havent eatin for awhile
[04:34] <catman1> same time as me!!!!
[04:34] <HereAndNow> same as me alos
[04:34] <HereAndNow> also
[04:34] <catman1> St.Louis Mo
[04:35] <AlexanderTT> i guess I'm still in georgia then , haa haa haa
[04:35] <HereAndNow> hehe Dallas, TX
[04:35] <catman1> wrong tiem for that
[04:35] <HereAndNow> for georgia?
[04:35] <catman1> georgia is 7:33
[04:35] <GearBrains> 7:33 in NC
[04:35] <Thelper> Alex can you tell me of you culture
[04:35] <AlexanderTT> exactly, KPAX was posting proof of me being a lier and some of it was that my ip is in georgia
[04:35] <Thelper> in the future plz
[04:36] <catman1> ok I understand now
[04:36] <AlexanderTT> i really must be getting sleep, any last questions for me? please?
[04:36] <AlexanderTT> i do love last questions
[04:36] <catman1> when will you be back
[04:36] <AlexanderTT> there usually pretty good
[04:36] <AlexanderTT> as sson as I can
[04:37] <Thelper> I want to know of your culture plz
[04:37] <HereAndNow> i have a question =)
[04:37] <HereAndNow> my first and last. .
[04:37] <catman1> I will post on the forum again about this room (I think its posted already)
[04:37] <AlexanderTT> remember, when I do not show up for quite awhile this means very interesting things are about to happen
[04:37] <Thelper> what do you mean?
[04:37] <catman1> how long is awhile?
[04:37] <Thelper> your not going to infere with them are you?
[04:38] <GearBrains> alex do you still have my email address?keep me up to date.ok?
[04:38] <HereAndNow> if your were in my shoes, what question would you want answered the most?
[04:38] <AlexanderTT> i will, and GearBrains, i will come here from now on to chat
[04:38] <GearBrains> thanks
[04:38] <Thelper> somoene make a bot
[04:38] <Thelper> keep channel open
[04:38] <AlexanderTT> excellent question HereAndNow, Ive been waiting for it
[04:39] <Thelper> I want to know of his culture
[04:39] <Thelper> what is it like in your time
[04:39] <AlexanderTT> the one questions is....
[04:40] <AlexanderTT> Whether your story is true or not, what would you say your one message you wish to get across is?
[04:40] <AlexanderTT> to all of us
[04:40] <HereAndNow> hmm, thats tough for me to answer because i have not been through things that have yet to come
[04:40] <Thelper> Alexander are you intending to stop something
[04:41] <Thelper> your comments above ill be gone while
[04:41] <Thelper> something interesting is happening
[04:41] <AlexanderTT> HereAndNow, do you want my answer to that question?
[04:41] <HereAndNow> yes pls
[04:43] <AlexanderTT> LOVE YOUR FAMILY CHERISH EVERY MOMENT OF YOUR PRECIOUS GIFT CALLED LIFE.AND DO NOT TAKE WHAT FREEDOMS YOU HAVE FOR GRANTED.MANY HAVE DIED AND WILL CONTINUE TO DIE TO OBTAIN WHAT THEY CALL FREEDOM.SO DO NOT WASTE ONE SECOND OF YOUR LIFE
[04:43] <AlexanderTT> that is my ultimate message to everyone here
[04:43] <AlexanderTT> whether or not I am a time traveler does not matter
[04:44] <AlexanderTT> thank go for what you have, do not be concerned with what you do not have
[04:44] <AlexanderTT> thank GOD*
[04:44] <Thelper> heh sounds familar
[04:45] <AlexanderTT> a message of hatred was never my intention
[04:45] <Thelper> alex why did u say when interesting things are happening u will be not on for while
[04:45] <AlexanderTT> i will be busy else where
[04:45] <MadIce> Why is it so important for you to have a message? Afterall, if you didn't visit this worldline we would not be here anyway.
[04:45] <Thelper> else where?
[04:45] <HereAndNow> have you seen some of these otehr TT'ers AlexanderTT? staking claims that contradict yours
[04:45] <Thelper> stoping events?
[04:45] <Thelper> or recording it
[04:45] <AlexanderTT> wrong MadIce
[04:46] <AlexanderTT> no HereAndNow what are they contradicting?
[04:46] <MadIce> Explain
[04:46] <HereAndNow> i recall one fella saying Kerry would win the election. . .it is my understanding you said Bush would win
[04:47] <AlexanderTT> it is true that one worldline was created due to my jump and more will be created do to what I do while here, but my friend you were already here before I got here
[04:47] <Thelper> true
[04:47] <Thelper> hence you life
[04:47] <Thelper> haa haa haa
[04:47] <AlexanderTT> HereAndNow, it is not easy to say who will win the election due to what happens, but it is easy to say who will be the next president
[04:48] <catman1> TTDave said Kerry would win...I think he's gone now!!
[04:48] <HereAndNow> sayin who is the next president would be sayin who wins the election, would it not?
[04:48] <catman1> So Alex you said I was on to the right idea about the election??
[04:48] <AlexanderTT> you will all see what I have been saying when election time comes, this will be un-like any election you have seen before
[04:49] <AlexanderTT> no HereAndNow, to completely different things this time
[04:49] <Thelper> alexander
[04:49] <HereAndNow> intresting
[04:49] <Thelper> why would u be away while interesting things happen?
[04:49] <AlexanderTT> to record first hand thelper
[04:49] <MadIce> Unfortunately, I was doing perfectly OK until you decided to pup up on this worldline. That caused a split. So, you created this worldline and you are leaving it in a few weeks or so.
[04:50] <Thelper> your confusing me you said you might not go back, but doesnt that mean your mission is void?
[04:50] <AlexanderTT> and will you cease to exist when I leave MadIce? i think not
[04:50] <MadIce> That is not what I am saying.
[04:50] <Thelper> im curious are you saying john coming here
[04:50] <AlexanderTT> you miss understand worldlines, i did not singularly travel here
[04:50] <Thelper> cuzed 911?
[04:50] <Thelper> madice?
[04:50] <catman1> Didnt you say the first trouble would be on the East Coast??
[04:50] <MadIce> I am just interpreting Everett.
[04:51] <Thelper> there 12 other tts
[04:51] <AlexanderTT> well, has everett traveled worldlines?
[04:51] <Thelper> with u?
[04:51] <MadIce> It looks like you have no clue what Everett's theory is about.
[04:51] <AlexanderTT> he only has a theory so far
[04:51] <MadIce> Ah
[04:52] <Thelper> alex
[04:52] <MadIce> Theories are no fables. They can have laws that are true.
[04:52] <AlexanderTT> laws that are true?
[04:52] <AlexanderTT> you speak of things you do not know
[04:52] <AlexanderTT> prove to my the law of gravity right NOW!!
[04:52] <MadIce> I am sorry, Alex. Next time you will have to do better.
[04:52] <AlexanderTT> prove it
[04:53] <AlexanderTT> prove gravity is a force
[04:53] <Thelper> gravity is time
[04:53] <AlexanderTT> prove it is a LAW
[04:53] <MadIce> Prove what. I didn;t say your world is using Everett. You people said that.
[04:53] <AlexanderTT> prove it cannot be bent
[04:53] <Thelper> gravity is connected to time
[04:53] <AlexanderTT> i never said his name
[04:54] <Thelper> its good still ppl no believe
[04:54] <MadIce> JT confirmed this. Your machine is build using that,
[04:54] <Thelper> means you safe
[04:54] <Thelper> long ppl think u crackpot
[04:54] <Thelper> same with me
[04:54] <AlexanderTT> ok then since you cannot prove the law of gravity prove the laws of everetts theory
[04:54] <Thelper> but ill teach anyone want enlighten what I know
[04:54] <AlexanderTT> obviously you misunderstand
[04:54] <Thelper> im not bothering to talk of coming events im talking of finding themselfs
[04:54] <GearBrains> i have to go - computer problems- somelog pls log from here- ok?
[04:55] <Thelper> lk
[04:55] <Thelper> k
[04:55] <MadIce> You see Alex, you must not twist your facts. If you are jumping on JT's band wagon then you should at least know his story.
[04:55] <AlexanderTT> I am jumping on no-ones band wagon
[04:55] <MadIce> So, JT did not exist.
[04:55] <DWOMT> i gotta get some sleep..gotta go to work later (i hate work)...see you guys later today..bye bye
[04:55] <Thelper> madice how would he know his story? if he is indeed from the time he speaks
[04:56] <AlexanderTT> john had more knowledge on the subject as I did yes, but he also did not make the C204
[04:56] <MadIce> I have read it. So can he.
[04:56] <AlexanderTT> i have read some of it
[04:56] * GearBrains has quit IRC (Quit: letting cpu cool down)
[04:56] * DWOMT disappears in a cloud of smoke
[04:56] <MadIce> Well, you have no knowledge of it all. You change the theory if it fits you.
[04:56] * DWOMT has quit IRC (Quit: )
[04:57] <AlexanderTT> no I do not, I have never given a full explanation to it either
[04:57] <Thelper> alex stop bothering to try prove self
[04:57] <Thelper> concentrate on your msg
[04:57] <AlexanderTT> you wont understand it anyway obviously since you have already confused such a trivial matter
[04:57] <Thelper> nvr
[04:57] <AlexanderTT> i must get some sleep
[04:57] <Thelper> has no idea
[04:57] <Thelper> he only knows what he is told
[04:58] <Thelper> athen thinks he is knowledgable
[04:58] <MadIce> One of the mistakes you made is that you say that Newton and Einstein are not used in your time. Some of Hawking's theories are used. Yet Everett is based on Quantum Mechanics,
[04:58] <Thelper> but the truth is his ideas block advancement
[04:58] <AlexanderTT> when you are able to travel worldlines than present your evidence to me that I am wrong about them
[04:58] <MadIce> Everthing Hawkings does is based on Einstein and QM.
[04:59] <MadIce> So is Evereet
[04:59] <AlexanderTT> quantum mechanics did not apply to einstein my friend
[04:59] <AlexanderTT> re read relativity
[04:59] <MadIce> He laid the foundations for that.
[04:59] <AlexanderTT> quantum physics is in its infancy it was not thought up by einstein
[04:59] <Thelper> alex when is your mission meant to end?

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[05:00] <AlexanderTT> although relativity can be seen as the basis for it
[05:00] <Thelper> doesnt mean einstien knew of it
[05:00] <MadIce> Infancy? Hm. Tell that to the developers of Quantum Computers and spintronics.
[05:01] <AlexanderTT> it is an expansion of the idea of relativity to try and explain what is un-explainable by relativity
[05:01] <AlexanderTT> newton created his own mathmatics to support his claims
[05:01] <AlexanderTT> and so shall scientist of you time as well
[05:02] <Thelper> 012?
[05:02] <Thelper> this is your bineray?
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[05:02] <Thelper> binary?
[05:02] <AlexanderTT> look forward to hawking, when he drastically changes his views
[05:02] <catman1> hi rewob
[05:02] <Thelper> that is prediction
[05:02] <rewob> hello
[05:02] <Thelper> that would happen soon 2
[05:02] <MadIce> Hawking does not believe in time travel.
[05:02] <Thelper> if you had TT in 2036
[05:02] <Thelper> then he have change it in next few yrs
[05:02] <AlexanderTT> not yet
[05:02] <Thelper> to use it
[05:02] <AlexanderTT> hence what I just said
[05:03] <AlexanderTT> he will prove it by trying to disprove it
[05:03] <Thelper> im curious but did one of you TT
[05:03] <MadIce> Sure.
[05:03] <AlexanderTT> such ways of proving things are common
[05:03] <Thelper> contact him
[05:03] <Thelper> to help it along?
[05:03] <AlexanderTT> the wright brothers for instance
[05:04] <Thelper> made plane so to prove cant fly?
[05:04] <Thelper> but it did haa haa haa
[05:04] <MadIce> You have no idea how theories work. So why should you have an understanding about how "proof" works.
[05:04] <AlexanderTT> yes thelper, tried to disporve flight and ended up changing there own minds
[05:04] <Thelper> so your saying that hawking is trying to disprove it
[05:05] <Thelper> but finds out it possible
[05:05] <AlexanderTT> does MadIce, need a diaper change?
[05:05] <Thelper> in next few yrs
[05:05] <MadIce> Ah. You cannot win, Alex

[05:05] <AlexanderTT> soon thelper, hawking will publish his new theories
[05:05] <MadIce> Why do you want to win
[05:05] <Thelper> this yr?
[05:05] <AlexanderTT> I already have MadIce
[05:06] <AlexanderTT> everything I have told you about has laready happened
[05:06] <MadIce> By one contradiction after another?
[05:06] <AlexanderTT> nothing you say will change that
[05:06] <AlexanderTT> point out my contradictions
[05:06] <AlexanderTT> no one has so far
[05:06] <Thelper> so expect hawkings report soon
[05:06] <Thelper> this yr then?
[05:06] <MadIce> On your worldline it has
[05:06] <MadIce> On this worldline it has not
[05:06] <Thelper> i doubt he could studie in middle civil war
[05:06] <HereAndNow> ok well, when there is not so much controversy I will chat with you again AlexanderTT
[05:07] <HereAndNow> take care and ty for the chat
[05:07] <AlexanderTT> anytime HereAndNow
[05:07] <HereAndNow> take care
[05:07] <Thelper> alex
[05:07] <MadIce> The beauty of Evereet was that there were no time travel paradoxes. It made TT possible like you are supposed to be using it now.
[05:07] <Thelper> is it this yr?
[05:07] * HereAndNow salutes AlexanderTT
[05:07] <MadIce> Everett even
[05:07] <Thelper> so expect hawkings report soon
[05:07] <MadIce> Cya
[05:07] <Thelper> is it this yr?
[05:07] <AlexanderTT> yes there are no paradoxes
[05:07] <Thelper> so expect hawkings report soon
[05:08] <Thelper> i doubt he could studie in middle civil war
[05:08] * HereAndNow has quit IRC (Quit: )
[05:08] <MadIce> Then your history happend and my history is about to happen.
[05:08] <AlexanderTT> make your point MadIce, i am getting very sleepy
[05:08] <Thelper> he blaming you for what coming?
[05:09] <Thelper> saying yours and johns traveling here chanced our timelines dirrection?
[05:09] <MadIce> You say that your history is mine. That is untrue.
[05:09] <Thelper> this is possible but highly unlikely
[05:09] <AlexanderTT> my history is similar to yours
[05:09] <Thelper> history is prewriten by high powers
[05:09] <MadIce> It "may" be similar. But you have changed it already by being here.
[05:09] <AlexanderTT> so similar there are no differences that I know of, so I consider it the same
[05:10] <Thelper> Alexander I think he thinks your being here making the war come?
[05:10] <Thelper> interesting theorty
[05:10] <MadIce> Maybe when you arrived they were similar.
[05:10] <AlexanderTT> sure thing MadIce, a few people on the net talking to a person they believe is a faker and a lier, I've really changed it alot!!
[05:10] <Thelper> you cant
[05:10] <MadIce> Thousands of people know JT now.
[05:11] <AlexanderTT> stop the elextion!!!! some one said they time traveled!!!!
[05:11] <MadIce> There is a book
[05:11] <Thelper> you would be killed by higher powers before you could
[05:11] <MadIce> A radio show
[05:11] <AlexanderTT> and your point?
[05:11] <MadIce> That it changed history.
[05:11] <Thelper> hmm
[05:11] <Thelper> possibly
[05:11] <Thelper> but didnt stop 9/11
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[05:11] <Thelper> did u know of this alex
[05:11] <Thelper> before hand?
[05:12] <AlexanderTT> it has changed LITTLEs so far, so why would it change ALOT now
[05:12] <Thelper> to stop war u must take all WMD and put them in the sun
[05:12] <Thelper> that would make differentr
[05:12] <MadIce> Maybe 9/11 would not occur of JT never vistited this place. Ever wonder about that?
[05:12] <Thelper> haa haa haa
[05:12] <Thelper> perhaps
[05:12] <AlexanderTT> and what if our trips actually caused the war?
[05:12] <Thelper> but my knowledge that you cant change a path
[05:12] <Thelper> as higher powers
[05:12] <AlexanderTT> I have thought of this before
[05:12] <Thelper> have it writen not us
[05:13] <MadIce> AlexanderTT: I am thinking about that
[05:13] <Thelper> cuz they dont know of time and already know of what we have done
[05:13] <Thelper> etc
[05:13] <MadIce> That's why a TTer should be low profile.
[05:13] <AlexanderTT> seriously , becuase remember it is a joint effort between me and my other selves to travel time
[05:13] <AlexanderTT> what if WE caused our OWN past!
[05:14] <Thelper> its to late now
[05:14] <Thelper> this timelines headed for your past
[05:14] <Thelper>

[05:14] <Thelper> ?
[05:14] <MadIce> Another simple question: There are 12 of you. Explain why that amount, please.
[05:14] <Thelper> im preparing ppl for death, I means letting them not fear it
[05:14] <AlexanderTT> 2 of each specialists
[05:14] <MadIce> You are #7
[05:14] <MadIce> Today you mentioned #9
[05:14] <AlexanderTT> 6 different specialist 6 different jobs to do here and now
[05:15] <Thelper> alex didnt u say u dont keep in contact with the other memebers?
[05:15] <MadIce> They are all from your worldline?
[05:15] <Thelper> how did 9 contact you?
[05:15] <AlexanderTT> well, not technically from the exact same wordline, but so similar we would not notice
[05:16] <MadIce> So, you may have seen thiese copies before
[05:16] <MadIce> these
[05:16] <AlexanderTT> copies?
[05:16] <Thelper> alex how did u get contacted when u said you dont contact any the other memebrs and dot know where they are?
[05:16] <Thelper> u said it would been 9's that would took you to kpax
[05:17] <Thelper> your 7
[05:17] <MadIce> Well, they may not have been from yur worldline you say. So it may have been copies.
[05:17] <MadIce> Lookalikes of ones you have seen.
[05:17] <AlexanderTT> not copies , your thinking of this all wrong, different selves
[05:17] <Thelper> alex how did u get contacted when u said you dont contact any the other memebrs and dot know where they are?
[05:18] <AlexanderTT> different wordline versions of the same being
[05:18] <Thelper> u said it would been 9's that would took you to kpax
[05:18] <MadIce> So, these are all supposed to eb an Alex? Or are they all diffferent?
[05:18] <AlexanderTT> emergency e-mail thelper
[05:18] <AlexanderTT> all different people MadIce, not all me
[05:18] <Thelper> so each has email that you all know to use?
[05:18] <AlexanderTT> we were numbered in order of our jumps
[05:19] <Thelper> who was the first?
[05:19] <Thelper> 1
[05:19] <Thelper> #1
[05:19] <Thelper> was frank tooken care of?
[05:19] <AlexanderTT> 1 was a geologist
[05:19] <MadIce> So there were 12 different people from your worldline travelling to this time, right?
[05:19] <AlexanderTT> yes
[05:20] <AlexanderTT> i really must get some sleep, make your point please
[05:20] <Thelper> alex did u catch frank?
[05:20] <MadIce> Well, you were vague about it, Alex. I just had to know.
[05:21] <catman1> I will catch you later Alex..it has been very enlightening!!
[05:21] <AlexanderTT> it is hard for me to explain these things, I have said before that one day I will give a detailed post on worldlines
[05:21] <Thelper> alex
[05:21] <AlexanderTT> Good night everyone
[05:21] <Thelper> did u catch
[05:21] <Thelper> frank?
[05:21] <MadIce> I look forward to it.
[05:21] <MadIce> Cya
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[05:22] <Thelper> hmmm
[05:22] <Thelper> he confusing me
[05:22] <MadIce> Yes. I cannot keep his story straight.
[05:22] <Thelper> Ithought only true way timetravel is in spirit to point in time where u exsisted but u repace your soul witht he memorys of your time you can from
[05:22] <MadIce> Yes. He cannot keep his story straight.
[05:22] <MadIce> haha
[05:23] <MadIce> typo
[05:23] <Thelper> the physical method is confusing me
[05:23] <Thelper> that would mean many hims were TTing to this type timeline
[05:23] <Thelper> so means we have millions of us
[05:23] <Thelper> but what about souls?
[05:23] <Thelper> how that connected?
[05:24] <Thelper> cant have millions souls?
[05:24] <MadIce> Each one has its own.
[05:24] <Thelper> oh
[05:24] <Thelper> so it different?
[05:24] <MadIce> Why not?
[05:24] <Thelper> guess yeah
[05:24] <Thelper> would have to
[05:24] <Thelper> unless they merge
[05:24] <Thelper> as we die
[05:24] <Thelper> like maybe when i die
[05:24] <Thelper> i merge with my other selfs
[05:24] <Thelper> souls
[05:24] <Thelper> ?
[05:24] <MadIce> I am not sure about death

[05:24] <Thelper> I know that its to do with astral
[05:25] <MadIce> For me everything ends when I die.
[05:25] <Thelper> astral doesnt have time
[05:25] <Thelper> when u sleep
[05:25] <Thelper> your subconious enters astral
[05:25] <Thelper> it complicated
[05:26] <Thelper> so perhaps we live to lifes
[05:26] <Thelper> one in astral on in physical?
[05:26] <Thelper> when we die they emrge?
[05:27] <Thelper> I am still not sure my time only knows of spiritual connection to God and all things
[05:27] <MadIce> I am simple. When I die the story ends.
[05:27] <Thelper> I guess you find out when die?
[05:27] <Thelper> must wait for war for that
[05:28] <Thelper> I see your point if they are TT
[05:28] <Thelper> didnt they corrupt timestream
[05:28] <Thelper> by coming here?
[05:28] <MadIce> Yes. I have no way to be certain until I die.
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[05:28] <Thelper> meaning that they could made our future there
[05:28] <Thelper> ?
[05:28] * KPAX has left #AlexanderTTSPeaks
[05:28] <Thelper> that means that my time only happens if this time war comes?
[05:29] <MadIce> THelepr: Yes. That is my point. By just being here he created a new time line. I was happy without him

[05:29] <Thelper> I cant understand this I still onyl believe in spiritual time travel not physical but ill keep open mind
[05:29] <Thelper> this universe is to complicated

 

[Opmmur]

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[05:30] <Thelper> if TT possible ppl could help hitler kill all he needed and world different no?
[05:30] <MadIce> I'll put this in writing.
[05:30] <Thelper> ?
[05:30] <MadIce> He contradicted himself.
[05:31] <MadIce> He has no clue how it works.
[05:31] <Thelper> I still dont understand 40yrs advances so much?
[05:31] <Thelper> I know gravity is alot to do with time
[05:32] <MadIce> I am not saying it cannot be done, but there are limits in physics. If his device was in space then I would have had less trouble with it.
[05:32] <Thelper> im curious this sliders I downloads to see it and that would mean that anything that was in sliders could exsist
[05:33] <Thelper> somewhere in the universal timestream?
[05:33] <Thelper> such as women using men as sexual instruments as one series had?
[05:33] <MadIce> I can give you two interesting websites which explain his ideas of worldlines.
[05:34] <Thelper> and bugs that turn ppl into zombies?
[05:34] <Thelper> k
[05:34] <Thelper> show
[05:35] <MadIce> The Everett Interpretation
[05:35] <MadIce> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa...EA5809EC5880000
[05:36] <MadIce> The second link is a more advanced theory. Based on the first.
[05:36] <MadIce> Easier to read BTW

[05:36] <MadIce> But the first is cool because of the questions

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[05:37] <Thelper> checking it
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[05:44] <Thelper> I c now
[05:44] <Thelper> what he meant
[05:44] <Thelper> hmm perhaps it is possible
[05:45] <MadIce> What Alex meant?
[05:45] <Thelper> it is wierd the second link seemed to desribe that glaxays out our ranger where paralel us
[05:45] <Thelper> ?
[05:45] <MadIce> Did you read all 9 pages?
[05:45] <MadIce> Or 8
[05:45] <MadIce> ?
[05:46] <Thelper> i believe they be on different time or space or dimention
[05:46] <Thelper> oh opps
[05:46] <Thelper> only first ones
[05:47] <Thelper> the second one is claiming that the other galaxys are so far
[05:47] <Thelper> we cant reach it and we have a us there?
[05:47] <MadIce> Yes
[05:47] <Thelper> THE SIMPLEST TYPE of parallel universe is simply a region of space that is too far away for us to have seen yet. The farthest that we can observe is currently about 4X1026
[05:47] <Thelper> meters, or 42 billion light-years--the distance that light has been able to travel since the big bang began. (The distance is greater than 14 billion light-years because cosmic expansion has lengthened distances.) Each of the Level I parallel universes is basically the same as ours. All the differences stem from variations in the initial arrangement of matter.
[05:47] <Thelper> this makes me wonder
[05:48] <Thelper> is alex truely timetravelling
[05:48] <Thelper> or is he moving from glaxay to glaxay
[05:48] <Thelper> using this device but on this other glaxay they arnt at his time?
[05:48] <MadIce> The Level III is much like what Everett described.
[05:48] <Thelper> confusing
[05:48] <Thelper> ill check that
[05:50] <Thelper> this could be
[05:50] <Thelper> what astral projection is
[05:50] <Thelper> tuning into these other universes
[05:50] <Thelper> as anything can happen or form
[05:50] <Thelper> when you enter this form of body
[05:50] <Thelper> interesting
[05:51] <Thelper> this universe so hard to understand but I do know this in astral u can travel to a planet in a instant
[05:51] <MadIce> I think it is more down to Earth.
[05:51] <Thelper> and look at the craters which seem so detailed
[05:51] <Thelper> like seeing with own eyes
[05:51] <Thelper> etc
[05:51] <Thelper> you can see your friends sleeping in a bed and even here them
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[05:52] <Thelper> travelling in instant to there room if wished so
[05:52] <Thelper> perhaps it is all connected
[05:52] <MadIce> I am away for a while, THelper.
[05:52] <Thelper> k
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[05:52] <MadIce> ttyl
[05:52] <cerial> heya all

[05:53] <Jorune> hi all
[05:53] <Thelper> hi
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[05:55] <Thelper> hey
[05:55] <Thelper> that theory might explain death perhaps
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