Terror in the Skies, Again?

[Cosmo]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Also, they DO do their research. It's possible they knew which airport/airlines were afraid of discrimination lawsuits...

 

[Cornelia]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

I'm with Anoah.
It sounds like an urban legend to me.
When people are scared of something you begin to hear a lot of this stories.

 

[Judge Bean]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Either they were seen doing those things or not. If they were seen doing them, and they were not rehearsing, what were they doing then, staging a dadaist performance for extra credit at a College of Creative Arts?

Ask questions later.

 

[Phoenix]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

staging a dadaist performance for extra credit at a College of Creative Arts?

They would have received extra credit points for being arrested.

 

[Anoah]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Sorry I still think its BS. Its so obviously BS Im actually surprised that there is this much discussion about it. If something like this occured on a flight for real it would be in the news. How many people were on this supposed flight? As if they would all keep their mouths shut about something so big and the media would not pick up on the story. As if.

You know if you are the government , and you want your citizans to go after one group of people, this kind of article is all you need. Put a few stories like this out and soon you will be able to round up a whole group of people and do with them what you like. Your citizans will read articles like the one above, completely freak out, wet their pants and let you do as you like to the group of people they fear needlessly.

If everything goes pear shaped, as Alex and Max said it will, I think you will see articles like this going around frequently. Instead of arabs being the target group it will be anyone who is anti-government.

"Those constitutionalists are trying to bomb trains"

"I saw a group of people , probably those terrorist constitutionalists acting strangley on a plane. I bet they were going to blow it up and kill loads of people. They say they are pro-constitution but they are evil radicals and need watching"

If there is some kind of generalized movement against the government these kinds of statements will start floating around. It will make it so easy for the government to round anyone up who they deem a threat to their power base. If the american people get it in their heads that anyone vocally opposing the government is linked with domestic terrorism then look out folks. It so obvious to see this just by reading some of the attitudes in this thread.

 

[Phoenix]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

\"Those constitutionalists are trying to bomb trains\"

\"I saw a group of people , probably those terrorist constitutionalists acting strangley on a plane. I bet they were going to blow it up and kill loads of people. They say they are pro-constitution but they are evil radicals and need watching\"

I can see something like that happening.

The thing is I don't think it would need to be all made up. Just pick a few cases that dramatize the subject, edit out a few points, emphasis a few others. The stories in "cold case files", and "city confidential" I am sure are true but the spin is also there. It doesn't take much spin to have people call in and vote away their protections and safe guards.

Also I do think there is a definitive difference from a person willing to take innocent lives in the name of their God and one who will die for the ideal of the freedom of others.

 

[CaryP]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Originally posted by Anoah@Jul 18 2004, 05:31 AM
Sorry I still think its BS. Its so obviously BS Im actually surprised that there is this much discussion about it. If something like this occured on a flight for real it would be in the news. How many people were on this supposed flight? As if they would all keep their mouths shut about something so big and the media would not pick up on the story. As if.

You know if you are the government , and you want your citizans to go after one group of people, this kind of article is all you need. Put a few stories like this out and soon you will be able to round up a whole group of people and do with them what you like. Your citizans will read articles like the one above, completely freak out, wet their pants and let you do as you like to the group of people they fear needlessly.

If everything goes pear shaped, as Alex and Max said it will, I think you will see articles like this going around frequently. Instead of arabs being the target group it will be anyone who is anti-government.

\"Those constitutionalists are trying to bomb trains\"

\"I saw a group of people , probably those terrorist constitutionalists acting strangley on a plane. I bet they were going to blow it up and kill loads of people. They say they are pro-constitution but they are evil radicals and need watching\"

If there is some kind of generalized movement against the government these kinds of statements will start floating around. It will make it so easy for the government to round anyone up who they deem a threat to their power base. If the american people get it in their heads that anyone vocally opposing the government is linked with domestic terrorism then look out folks. It so obvious to see this just by reading some of the attitudes in this thread.

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Anoah,

Absolutely brilliant. Maybe your exposure to the European (or maybe it's just outside the US) perspective allows you to see what most of the sheeple here can't or won't. Here's a perspective/reaction to the same article I found over at http://www.whatreallyhappened.com Pretty much dovetails with your insights.

"This story reeks of the "strip club" stories of 9-11. In that case, Arab-looking men went out of their way to be noticed and remembered the night before 9-11 at several strip clups in New York. One went so far as to make certain that the bar owner made a copy of their ID (which later turned out to have been a fake using a stolen identity). The next day, after the attacks, the proprietors and customers of those strip clubs were paraded before the media, recalling the bragging "Arabs" who had made such a spectacle of themselves the night before. The fact that real Muslims about to see Allah would not be in a strip club, and the very obvious and heavy handed manner in which these men made sure they would be remembered escaped notice by the media. The fact that the IDs shown to the proprietors were fakes never made the mainstream press until several weeks later.

So now we have an event, performed by amazing coincidence in front of a known magazine writer, in which again we have a group of Arab looking men going out of their way to act suspicious and be remembered. The theory is that this is a "dry run" for an attack using bomb "components" smuggled aboard by several people and reassembled in the air. The theatrical nature of this event is obvious, from the cutting-the-throat gesture performed where all could see it, to the studied nervousness of the "Arabs" who are carring, at least for this time, harmless McDonald's bags. And note that the stewerdess chooses the writer to write down the description of the man in the yellot T-shirt. Since "man in yellot T-shirt" would suffice for an initial ID on landing, it is clear that this is yet another device to make certain this writer is paying attention to the performance taking place around her.

We are being set up, people. There is a big bang about to happen, an election-stopper, and someone living over oil is going to get the blame. Based on Moore's film and Cameron Kerr's statements today, the target of the frame-up is (as it was for 9-11) Saudi Arabia. - M. R."

The woman who wrote the story writes regularly for "Women's Wall Street" and the original is posted here Womens Wall Street.com article

I don't think the govt. will be dubbing anti-govt. types "constitutionalist terrorists" - makes them sound connected to the Constitution. That's what the anti-govt. types would call themselves "constitutionalist fighters/defenders", but the govt. would try to pin something more nefarious sounding rather than connecting them with something as American as the Constitution. There'll be some crap about how "they hate our freedom" or "they want to destroy our way of life". I can't think of something all that appropriate right now, but I'm sure there's some spin doctor(s) in Washington who've been working on a smear campaign for the "domestic terrorists" aka opposition to the administration. Thanks for being willing to speak out. You rock!!

Cary

 

[Anoah]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Also I do think there is a definitive difference from a person willing to take innocent lives in the name of their God

Yeah the christians are the most notorious for that. Just read the history books. But most of them are good people anyway.

 

[Phoenix]

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Thanks for being willing to speak out. You rock!!

Anoah is real good about wanting to call things to question, and yes she does rock.

 

[Cornelia]

Terror in the Skies, Again?

Sad but true, there are journalist who get paid. And newspapers also.
And if something comes from the govt, something like "Publish this article tomorrow", well... the newspaper will publish it, true or false, faked or real.

(Anoah, watch your steps: living among these bloody europeans, you'll soon become a socialist! :lol: )