The Mandela Effect and The Bird of Hermes Initiative

[Snow]

We do what we do out of goodwill not out of corruption. Of course, if you press me much further I will give you exactly what you want. Be careful what you wish for my friend.

@Remnant That comment has a definite tone of menace IMO, dare I say malevolent?

Why the attitude? I understand the question/answer thing can be daunting, especially when there are things you don't have permission to talk about. It would also be frustrating for a role player if people start pulling conversations in directions that haven't yet been thought through or fleshed out.

I am really interested in the Mandela Effect research - any headway on that?

 

[Miscellaneous]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

 

[Einstein]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

This is an alternate timeline thread that just popped into existence on this timeline a few days ago. It appears I'm the only one to notice.

 

[Remnant]

a) I dont understand this. How did you do that? Did you conquer another universe where the earth was not inhabited?
Or did you create a new universe? That would be a lot of energy.

b) What do you know about the other universes? I mean there must be a lot of universes because it is called 982. What about number 1 etc...
1) Can we also be like gods through kind of spiritual work?
2)You said you cannot talk about your spiritual abilities and those of the scientists. But those beings can transfer those abilites as I understand it. Is this correct?

3) What I have wanted to ask: Do you know human with this abilities? For example Indian fakirs or tibetian (chinese) monks or something like that. Is there e.g. increased extrapoint in the Himalaya (Tibet)?

4)You are not sure in this? So it is possible that you can create and extrapoint involutarily?


Ok thats good.
5)What about the good ones? Does they also exist? If yes: What did they do?Then everything goes to heaven ?
6)Did you talk to any extrapoints (good or bad or neutral)?

7) Do you know the hdr device?

A) We are not advanced enough to create a universe as of now. We transported to a universe where the universe was uninhabited, yes.

B) We know a great deal of all the universes we have assigned a number to, as the number is not assigned until the universe has been properly analysed.

1) Depends on your definition of spiritual work. I would say yes, however.

2) Yes.

3) If a human had this ability they would likely no longer be considered a human anymore.
There was more activity there yes, but not in this universe.

4) Possible but highly unlikely and improbable.

5) Plenty of good ones. That's a reason we have different classifications for them. I think it would be best I don't speak of the natures of heaven or the afterlife. That tends to cause problems.

6) I've talked with a few yes. We are allied with some of them so communication would have been necessary.

7) I do.

Remnant, You think it would be best that you don't speak of the natures of heaven or the afterlife. That tends to cause problems."

Oh yeah, problems for who exactly? Problems for beings that don't have our best interests maybe..

So you mean it will cause problems for you and your organization by the entities that don't want information about the afterlife revealed? It's unfortunate that you think it's best you don't speak of it because that's exactly what I need to know about! It just goes to show the nature of your organization from it's roots if information about the afterlife has to stay a secret! What is there to hide?

I realize that in your eyes you think that your organization saved humanity and are all good and loving but nothing is as it seems and you would most likely not even have a clue who really runs your organization behind the scenes. would you? That's even if you were being truthful about your tale.

If the powers that be that control this universe or that oversees it, doesn't want us to know about the processes of the afterlife and it's true origins then chances are good they are not a benevolent force. but that's just the way I see it. Why should the most important question a human being could ever possibly ask, be avoided? what sense is that going to make?

It is precisely because our organisation is not malevolent that we do not wish to speak on this. We do not wish to cause mass hysteria, we do not wish to appear biased to any one religion, we do not want anyone, as humans often do, misunderstanding and taking the situation as proof that "God" is malevolent, and we do not wish to accidentally spring up any cultists to

We do what we do out of goodwill not out of corruption. Of course, if you press me much further I will give you exactly what you want. Be careful what you wish for my friend.

@Remnant That comment has a definite tone of menace IMO, dare I say malevolent?

Why the attitude? I understand the question/answer thing can be daunting, especially when there are things you don't have permission to talk about. It would also be frustrating for a role player if people start pulling conversations in directions that haven't yet been thought through or fleshed out.

I am really interested in the Mandela Effect research - any headway on that?

I was quite stressed at the time due to matters on another sites and these implications that we were hiding the information for malevolent reasons kind of pissed me off. My apologies.

Well, that's not even applicable here. Even if this was a roleplay, which it's not, I wouldn't come here unprepared especially since my organisation is heavily concerned with such matters.

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

1. An organisation, the one I work form. 2. The current universe. 3. The old one. 4. A thread

5. Good. Discussion on the matrix would be quite unnecessary as it is quite irelevant outside of metaphors that we haven't even gone in to.

I would say this evil being that caused the catastrophes did not value free will. The organization restored it.

1)I also asked that for a reason: I heard about a dimension/universe in the future before 2012. The information said there were only half or less people left and they gave of a negative feeling (evil metaphysically). I thought that could the reason. So the information was about the 2012 event.

") Where did the Allaru-Illu come from? Do you know that? I though of the Annunaki. Because the name sound like them. Those being that supposedly created Sumer.

3) What is Ascension?

4) There is a guy on youtube that said he was transfered from an other earth. There was a nuclear war in the middle east. ISIS made attacks around the globe and then the whole world went to war against them and they nuked ISIS with nuclear weapons.
I wondered if that was our timeline. Or a timeline in another universe.



Interesting what you have to say.

2) From the 216, from various places. One was a fallen angel, one was from a solaris-esque waterworld, one from another universe, etc. the name would sound familiar because it is in Sumerian.

3) Not sure myself. A form a spiritual enlightenment, I presume.

4) ISIS was uninvolved.

Remnant, You think it would be best that you don't speak of the natures of heaven or the afterlife. That tends to cause problems."

Oh yeah, problems for who exactly? Problems for beings that don't have our best interests maybe..

So you mean it will cause problems for you and your organization by the entities that don't want information about the afterlife revealed? It's unfortunate that you think it's best you don't speak of it because that's exactly what I need to know about! It just goes to show the nature of your organization from it's roots if information about the afterlife has to stay a secret! What is there to hide?

I realize that in your eyes you think that your organization saved humanity and are all good and loving but nothing is as it seems and you would most likely not even have a clue who really runs your organization behind the scenes. would you? That's even if you were being truthful about your tale.

If the powers that be that control this universe or that oversees it, doesn't want us to know about the processes of the afterlife and it's true origins then chances are good they are not a benevolent force. but that's just the way I see it. Why should the most important question a human being could ever possibly ask, be avoided? what sense is that going to make?

It is precisely because our organisation is not malevolent that we do not wish to speak on this. We do not wish to cause mass hysteria, we do not wish to appear biased to any one religion, we do not want anyone, as humans often do, misunderstanding and taking the situation as proof that "God" is malevolent, and we do not wish to accidentally spring up any cultists to a certain extrapoint.

We do what we do out of goodwill not out of corruption. Of course, if you press me much further I will give you exactly what you want. Be careful what you wish for my friend.

Okay, that sounds like kind of a fair statement and also makes a bit of sense. Maybe just a bit tho!

I highly doubt that the masses are going to be looking at this forum along with believing everything you're saying as the ultimate truth. As if it was the holy and almighty word of God or something. Then again, stupidly I guess things like that happen. but do you really think your words on this forum are going to touch the masses? Let's be real!

It's not the first anyone's heard of wild out there claims like this before. Conspiracy theories and many different philosophical view points already exist everywhere!
I shouldn't have to state this. But this site is for exploring those possible ideas that we can't understand and is more so for the open minded rather then highly religious people that will go crazy and rebel if they suddenly hear words like yours.

Anyone who is going to go in hysteria from reading your words about the afterlife on this forum is most definitely on the wrong damn forum and are most likely not capable of handling this type of research in the first place. Because it all goes along with the research. Outrageous claims are already in existence everywhere. Most people here will think for themselves and I doubt your special God type knowing words are going to cause the masses to go crazy and start thinking God is evil. I think most would just choose not to believe it rather than go in hysteria. Like I said, nothing can be offered as proof on this site anyways. So what proof?

It's all just my opinion on the matter. but I guess it would be different for you from your view point since if you're with this organization you may have ways of knowing what would happen if forbidden afterlife knowledge is revealed. what do i know!

I'm not saying your that your organization would be a bad one if it exists. From my limited perspective it could be either way. I just don't know enough about all this to speculate any conclusions and it's open. There is nothing other than words to indicate what the agenda here is and words doesn't give enough to assume anything.

So I'm not pressing anything here. I feel I asked a reasonable question. I got no idea how deep into all this you are, do I? Wouldn't things be on a need to know basis! I guess I was wondering how you can be sure you have the right story and haven't had memories implanted on yourself?

Like I say, I'm not trying to press anything. Just don't answer if you don't like the question.

And what do you think that it is I want? what exactly is that supposed to mean?

1) It's happened before, otherwise I wouldn't be worried.

2) As for the rest, I agree and I do appologise for my overly hostile response.

 

[JustMe]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

Don't worry. It's a role play thread with some guy claiming a load of stuff without backing up with any proof. It has no basis in reality and has been shown to use fictional names of groups. They have yet to admit this and are trying ignore that this point was made and carry on with the story. We are currently all ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that this person is not crazy/disturbed/hoaxing. I hope that brings you up to speed.

 

[Remnant]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

Don't worry. It's a role play thread with some guy claiming a load of stuff without backing up with any proof. It has no basis in reality and has been shown to use fictional names of groups. They have yet to admit this and are trying ignore that this point was made and carry on with the story. We are currently all ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that this person is not crazy/disturbed/hoaxing. I hope that brings you up to speed.

There was no legitimate point made, I'm afraid.

As for backing my story up with proof, well, 1. Proof will come soon enough 2. As I said, this was not my purpose in coming here and I didn't expect there would be this much discussion about it. As such I do not really care too much if you believe what I say. Believe what you will.

 

[JustMe]

Incredible claims require incredible evidence...

I was just catching her up on the thread. Don't get your panties in a twist!

 

[Miscellaneous]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

Don't worry. It's a role play thread with some guy claiming a load of stuff without backing up with any proof. It has no basis in reality and has been shown to use fictional names of groups. They have yet to admit this and are trying ignore that this point was made and carry on with the story. We are currently all ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that this person is not crazy/disturbed/hoaxing. I hope that brings you up to speed.

Oh thank goodness. I thought everyone was believing in this and that I felt like the only person who don't know what the heck everyone is talking about because to me, everyone sounds like they're speaking numbers and nonesense. I did wonder if there was proof, facts or some information that would sound logical and make us believe in all these claims.

 

[vortex-T217]

I'm very clueless here hence I didn't read all of posts.

What is this beelzebub intiative/ bird of hermes? 982? 09821? WTF am I reading?

And for sanity's sake I aint gonna discuss about 'the matrix'

Don't worry. It's a role play thread with some guy claiming a load of stuff without backing up with any proof. It has no basis in reality and has been shown to use fictional names of groups. They have yet to admit this and are trying ignore that this point was made and carry on with the story. We are currently all ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that this person is not crazy/disturbed/hoaxing. I hope that brings you up to speed.

Oh thank goodness. I thought everyone was believing in this and that I felt like the only person who don't know what the heck everyone is talking about because to me, everyone sounds like they're speaking numbers and nonesense. I did wonder if there was proof, facts or some information that would sound logical and make us believe in all these claims.

Proof? Give me a break! No one is going to find proof through video, pictures or words. So unless he plans on taking us all on a grand tour through his organization then proof just isn't going to happen.

Even if someone were to have real legitimate pictures of something crazy, like an alien or something or video of it and were to post it on this forum, no one is going to look at those pictures or video and say they are real and think of it as proof. Even if they were real.

So why people continue to expect to be given proof is beyond me. what can be offered as proof or evidence to convince someone of anything on this forum?

You can only see the relation between what's being said compared to your own personal supernatural experiences. and that's the only hint of proof anyone's going to be able to get on here.

 

[JustMe]

Don't worry. It's a role play thread with some guy claiming a load of stuff without backing up with any proof. It has no basis in reality and has been shown to use fictional names of groups. They have yet to admit this and are trying ignore that this point was made and carry on with the story. We are currently all ignoring the elephant in the room and pretending that this person is not crazy/disturbed/hoaxing. I hope that brings you up to speed.

Oh thank goodness. I thought everyone was believing in this and that I felt like the only person who don't know what the heck everyone is talking about because to me, everyone sounds like they're speaking numbers and nonesense. I did wonder if there was proof, facts or some information that would sound logical and make us believe in all these claims.

Proof? Give me a break! No one is going to find proof through video, pictures or words. So unless he plans on taking us all on a grand tour through his organization then proof just isn't going to happen.

Even if someone were to have real legitimate pictures of something crazy, like an alien or something or video of it and were to post it on this forum, no one is going to look at those pictures or video and say they are real and think of it as proof. Even if they were real.

So why people continue to expect to be given proof is beyond me. what can be offered as proof or evidence to convince someone of anything on this forum?

You can only see the relation between what's being said compared to your own personal supernatural experiences. and that's the only hint of proof anyone's going to be able to get on here.

If there can't be proof of the science that makes what is being claimed possible, then it can't be possible. Of course there can be proof. A video would clearly be a form of proof. In this case maybe proof would be any evidence that this mysterious group exists. Files? Documents? Correspondence? Corroboration by a third party? Scientific proof of any of this being possible? Proof of how we know that the person has travelled dimensions? How did they do this? How do they know they have? If the only evidence exists in the mind of one person then it is not a sensible thing to do to believe it. As I said before, incredible claims require incredible evidence.