TT Discovery?

[Harte]

The thread title is about a phenomenon called "frame dragging."
Frame dragging is predicted by the General Theory of Relativity, and was first proposed in 1918.
It's never been observed, but you can bet it happens, since the GTR has had multiple predictions confirmed through observation.
The only tie-in here is that, with the misalignment in this system, we might be able to confirm frame dragging, yet another part of the GTR.
If we can get a good enough read on it, we can use it to test the GTR.

Harte

 

[Treversal]

 

[PaulaJedi]

It's complete fiction. There has been no discovery of a black hole anywhere in our universe. Only in the minds of men.

What do you think of this latest alleged photo of one?

 

[PaulaJedi]

The thread title is about a phenomenon called "frame dragging."
Frame dragging is predicted by the General Theory of Relativity, and was first proposed in 1918.
It's never been observed, but you can bet it happens, since the GTR has had multiple predictions confirmed through observation.
The only tie-in here is that, with the misalignment in this system, we might be able to confirm frame dragging, yet another part of the GTR.
If we can get a good enough read on it, we can use it to test the GTR.

Harte

Main Stream Media is playing this as the black hole sucking in time and space.

This is for anyone who needs to know:

"Frame-dragging is an effect on spacetime, predicted by Einstein's general theory of relativity, that is due to non-static stationary distributions of mass–energy. A stationary field is one that is in a steady state, but the masses causing that field may be non-static, rotating for instance. More generally, the subject of effects caused by mass–energy currents is known as gravitomagnetism, in analogy with classical electromagnetism. "

 

[Einstein]

What do you think of this latest alleged photo of one?

I don't believe it. I read the article on it. A woman created an algorithm which was supposedly used to generate an image of a black hole in the center of our galaxy. No proof was given that a black hole was there. Just a computer generated image. Certainly not even scientific.

 

[Treversal]

Main Stream Media is playing this as the black hole sucking in time and space.

This is for anyone who needs to know:

"Frame-dragging is an effect on spacetime, predicted by Einstein's general theory of relativity, that is due to non-static stationary distributions of mass–energy. A stationary field is one that is in a steady state, but the masses causing that field may be non-static, rotating for instance. More generally, the subject of effects caused by mass–energy currents is known as gravitomagnetism, in analogy with classical electromagnetism. "

Well, THAT clears it up.

 

[Harte]

You can think of it as a large rotating mass stretching space time in the direction of rotation.

Harte

 

[Treversal]

You can think of it as a large rotating mass stretching space time in the direction of rotation.

Harte

If you were to navigate through that rotation as through an asteroid fashion either with it or against it - would you experience TT? And if so, how? And how much? And would your time change (making you younger or older) or would you stay the same but transport to an earlier or later time of the Universe?

 

[Kairos]

Not backwards. I think if you were caught in it, the only stars you'd see would be in one direction, since that's the only direction out. As you approach the event horizon, that field of stars would become smaller and smaller until it's gone, and so are you.

Just a guess, though. Not sure.

 

[Harte]

If you were to navigate through that rotation as through an asteroid fashion either with it or against it - would you experience TT? And if so, how? And how much? And would your time change (making you younger or older) or would you stay the same but transport to an earlier or later time of the Universe?

Just getting that close to the singularity could cause time dilation on a scale of hundreds of thousands of years in your original reference frame (Earth, presumably.).
Depending on the size of the thing.

Harte