Alexanders chat logs for January 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor in 2038 and 2039

mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

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<blinkage> hey Alexander

<AlexanderTT> hello, and how are all of you today?

<H1t|M4n> Hello AlexanderTT

<H1t|M4n> I'm doing good thanks

<blinkage> I'm getting sleepy

<AlexanderTT> I have some spare time before I go on a little roadtrip, I thought I would spend it here.

<AlexanderTT> it's quite pointless to try and catch up on e-mails

<blinkage> Alexander you have some technical training in your time device

<blinkage> ?

<AlexanderTT> hitman , should i pm you what kpax told me to say?

<AlexanderTT> yes nlinkage , some

<AlexanderTT> Blinkage , sorry

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<AlexanderTT> what is you question blinkage?

<blinkage> well in current theory about Tippler sinusoid induced time travel, you can't go back to times before the machine was built. I was wondering how you worked around that?

<Cyberbomb> hi all =D

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<AlexanderTT> we can't go back time, yes that's true

<AlexanderTT> we travel worldlines not just time

<AlexanderTT> If I want to go back and see me TRUE younger self, that is not possible

<blinkage> could you just travel in worldlines not time?

<AlexanderTT> but I can travel into your worldline and one of the advantages is that I can decide when I want to pop up

<AlexanderTT> I suppose so, that is very close to what happen's if I make an emergency jump

<AlexanderTT> but worldine's are not all on the same time together, some are farther in the future and some have just started

<H1t|M4n> I'm glad taht question was asked now

<AlexanderTT> We did not think TT was possible until we discovered that

<blinkage> worldlines diverge from one another, but can they merge too?

<H1t|M4n> Hmm

<AlexanderTT> Someone from my time has been working on a theory that eventually they all must merge I guess this would be death, or the return of christ

<AlexanderTT> remember christ said that ALL would see him and ALL would bow

<blinkage> with all due respect but I belive Jesus is the biggest media circus ever... I am atheist in nature

<H1t|M4n> how old are you blinkage ?

<blinkage> 29

<H1t|M4n> k

<H1t|M4n> Just curious thats all my friend

<AlexanderTT> Well blinkafe it is your right to believe that and I will never make fun of you for it

<blinkage> nor will I meke fun of you for choosing to belive, that is your choice

<Payton2152001> Alexander...do any of the people on the board and/or within' this chat have an influence on the future or your mission?

<AlexanderTT> well I use to be in your shoes my friend, I wondered why a god would allow so many to die in a pointless war, but the more we descovere about the universe the more the bible makes sense

<AlexanderTT> I believe I have met one who will make a big difference

<Payton2152001> and what do you think about this person?

<AlexanderTT> But remember you all can, it is your choice when the time comes

<AlexanderTT> Personally?

<Payton2152001> yes

<Payton2152001> in your expierience here

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<H1t|M4n> W/B cerial

<cerial> ta H1t|M4n

<cerial> hello all

<AlexanderTT> I do not know him that well, but he is definetely against the possibility of time travel.

<Cyberbomb> hi cerial =D

<Payton2152001> have you had online conversations with this person?

<AlexanderTT> I have spoken to him in e-mails and what he describes of himself is very close to someone I read about

<H1t|M4n> HeHe

<Payton2152001> did you know he would be here?

<AlexanderTT> I did not know that he would contact me, but if he is who I think he will be than it is a bonus

<Payton2152001> have you informed him of his influence?

<AlexanderTT> I'm so happy that MadDog in the forum has figured out the tagging system

<AlexanderTT> No, and I wil not

<Payton2152001> thanks for answering my questions!

<AlexanderTT> Any time

<AlexanderTT> curious phrase isn't that, ANY TIME

<cerial> hehe

<cerial> so alex could i talk to u about ireland for a minute

<AlexanderTT> sure

<cerial> i've been thinking about what u said before

<cerial> does the conflict occur after the the war ?

<AlexanderTT> after the war starts and during

<cerial> this is the EU war ur talkign about ?

<cerial> not the civil war ..

<cerial> ?
 
mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

<AlexanderTT> things become very un-stable in europe, people become rest-less due to the civil war, the UK will try to stretch out there hand once again and control most of europe, the irish will be one of the one's that rebel

<cerial> hehe

<cerial> well we've had some practise

<H1t|M4n> HaHa

<cerial> but i've got a few years to prepare ..

<H1t|M4n> So true

<AlexanderTT> IRA right?

<cerial> yeah ... not me tho ... i'm a pacifist at heart

<H1t|M4n> That to might pass cerial

<cerial> i agree with their ideas .. not the methods

<cerial> hehe

<AlexanderTT> the pacifist in america are fixin to have rude awakening

<H1t|M4n> I would not doubt this

<cerial> it seems so

<cerial> i was thinking about the farmer general ...

<AlexanderTT> The one's who try to remain neutral during the war are the one's ho are hurt the most, this is why I say wrong questio when someone ask's "where is it safe?"

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT do you agree that these things that are yet to come have been underway for sometime now and alot of the worlds poplation have been in denial about cerain events ?

<AlexanderTT> absolutely

<H1t|M4n> In short ......

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<AlexanderTT> the war has already started you just don't see it yet

<H1t|M4n> The writing has been on the wall for many years,maybe even centuries ?

<blinkage> how are the religious affairs after THE war?

<AlexanderTT> we are alot more religious

<AlexanderTT> and we are truly free to worship who-ever we want

<blinkage> islamic, hindi ,christian?

<cerial> cool

<AlexanderTT> but most turn to christianity

<AlexanderTT> they are all still there

<H1t|M4n> Not like today where Religion is abolished in schools .

<cerial> really ?

<blinkage> sadly not in Norway

<H1t|M4n> What do you mean blinkage

<AlexanderTT> religion becomes a MUST almost everywhere and under God on the currency was changed

<blinkage> here there is still religous teaching in the schools

<H1t|M4n> You don't want that in the schools ?

<cerial> becomes a MUST ?

<H1t|M4n> you are an atheist i forgot .

<H1t|M4n> No cerial its a choice in AlexanderTT's time .

<AlexanderTT> even atheist believe that man should be taught to be nice to each other and less violent

<blinkage> H1t|M4n: by no means, to plant such ideas in to innocent little minds

<cerial> of course ...

<blinkage> that there is a god one must awe and worship.. quite frankly I find it barbaric

<blinkage> but thats just my 2 cents

<AlexanderTT> this is the core teaching of all religions, but most have descrovered that christianity is different than all other religions by one simple way

<H1t|M4n> Yes and i repect you for that blinkage,not condem you HeHe

<cerial> u was reading a book ... food of the gods .. it explains how we went from a partnership society to a dominator style .. and that it would/had to change back soon ..look like that's gonna happen ..

<cerial> i was even

<AlexanderTT> things must get worse before they get better cerial

<cerial> but they get better

<H1t|M4n> I agree also AlexanderTT,it has to be worse in order for people to truely see what is wrong .

<cerial> and thats a good thing

<AlexanderTT> interesting, no one is following up on questions to my answer's

<blinkage> when I was younger I looked to the Norse gods, It was a comfort in the army. a moral booster, but that is all

<cerial> hows that alex ... regarding christanity ?

<AlexanderTT> blinkage, do you know the difference between christianity and all of the other religions in the world?

<blinkage> hmm, its the one true religion?

<H1t|M4n> I think the difference is that Christianity is the oldest religion .

<AlexanderTT> no

<AlexanderTT> no on both

<cerial> no .. that's be paganism H1t|M4n

<blinkage> Hinduism and buddism outdate chistianity by millenia

<cerial> the old testement ?

<AlexanderTT> c'mon think about it

<AlexanderTT> what is the point of religion?

<blinkage> AlexanderTT: to control people

<cerial> heaven ? a life after death ?

<Cyberbomb> a meaning for life to manypeople =D

<cerial> the belief thats there is a greater porpose

<AlexanderTT> wrong to give you hope, we all know we are going to die and we don't want it to end there, religion gives us hope of an afterlife and something bigger than us

<AlexanderTT> now, why is christianity different?

<AlexanderTT> c'mon you can get it!

<cerial> becuase everyone gets forgiven

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT you have to admit one thing,that these are your opinions .

<AlexanderTT> very close

<blinkage> there are seveal differances in all relgions

<cerial> that everyone can get into heaven

<AlexanderTT> no there is one difference that is a fact

<blinkage> you refering to free will?

<cerial> hmmmm

<blinkage> nah, most other religions have that

<cerial> i'm stumped .. is it a blantent fact ?

<Cyberbomb> my guess is its something to do with jesus =P

<blinkage> in such religous debates as we are having here now, i always take out David Hume.

<AlexanderTT> in every religion in the world it is in some way man's attemtp to find or get close to or even please there God, in christianity it's the complete opossite, God say's I am here I will be with you and I will save you and ALL you have to do is WANT ME TO!!, there are no set things that you HAVE to do in christianity

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<algol_aida> hello

<AlexanderTT> its god's attempt at getting to man, not the other way around

<blinkage> hello

<H1t|M4n> Welcome algol_aida

<Cyberbomb> hi algol =D

<cerial> ah .. no worship needed .. jus the want to be saved ?

<cerial> heya aida

<blinkage> we are having a religous debate algol_aida

<algol_aida> ok

<AlexanderTT> exactly , no certain things you have to do

<H1t|M4n> Do you go to church AlexanderTT in your world line ?

<cerial> its a easy religon in a world where u have to do much to survive ?

<AlexanderTT> that is the difference, and that Is why I believe in the GOd of Abraham

<cerial> ic

<blinkage> AlexanderTT: well thats a fact that is open for interpetation...

<blinkage> the part where no worship is needed

<AlexanderTT> yes, you can interpret the bible any way you want but if taken literally that is what Jesus said

<H1t|M4n> I once heard someone say why does god need a middle man when he can talk right to use himself

<blinkage> but the part where the earth is actually satans domain is biblicaly correct

<cerial> well orgainised religon sucks anyways

<Cyberbomb> haa haa haa

<AlexanderTT> it's not about a middle man, it's about Jesus was the sacrice for our sins, and all we need to do is believe and except that sacrifice and we are saved, we don't have to do anything else

<cerial> well its good to hear its got simpler ...

<cerial>

<blinkage> yup

<H1t|M4n> Yes and i understand what you're saying AlexanderTT,but through the times the bible has been written over .

<AlexanderTT> I am not here to convert you , I am just saying that is the core belief's of Christianity

<cerial> so does ireland get struck with nukes ?

<blinkage> AlexanderTT: try telling that to a 15th century inqisitor

<cerial> getting back to the doomsday side of religon

* cerial kids

<AlexanderTT> alot of europe was not needed to be nuked, ireland was spared

<blinkage> nither was northern europe?

<algol_aida> did norway get involved in the war?

<algol_aida> heh

<AlexanderTT> but the US was hit dead on, in order to overthrow the Government

<cerial> so england was wiped out .. the surivers head to ireland and try to exert control ?
 
mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

* thepergom has joined #TimeTravellersInn

<AlexanderTT> every european country had there hand in it at one time or another, but I don't thin k norway was directly in it

<algol_aida> perhaps i prevented it

<algol_aida> or will prevent it

<algol_aida> who knows

<Cyberbomb> heh

<blinkage> it makes sense as we are on the outskirts of civilisation

<cerial> so does the struture of government change drasticly the world over after the war ?

<cerial> i mean .. we know that the US will change back to apartnership model

<AlexanderTT> I can remember the exact second that the first warheads were dropped on the US

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT there was someone who stated that I think it was argentina [don't quote me one this] will have an election that will also be a deciding fate on certain events [I think it was you or maxwell hopefully you can clear this up for me ]

<cerial> but does the world follow suit ?

<algol_aida> yes maxwell mentioned something about argentina

<blinkage> are muslims still considered terrorist after the war (i know its an overstatement but still)

<cerial> the only reason muslims are terrorist are that the US admin has over the years messed with their land/political system

<AlexanderTT> I remeber there was something important about argentina, but it was not so important that it burned into my memory, this is how it is with most european affairs

<H1t|M4n> k

<AlexanderTT> we no longer worry about terrorist*'s

<H1t|M4n> I just wanted to clear something up in my mind thats all

<algol_aida> the biggest terrorist in the world today is the US government

<AlexanderTT> I agree with that

<algol_aida> according to people like john pilger and noam chomsky

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<H1t|M4n> The sad part to what you and maxwell had to say AlexanderTT .........

<algol_aida> just look at the american-installed dictators all over the world

<blinkage> there are no remnants of extremist groups with leftover bio/chem weapons after the war?

<H1t|M4n> Was that Africa was still suffering from aids ebola and other deseases .

<H1t|M4n> From what you said was that it got worse .

<AlexanderTT> there probably is, but they are either ot yet organized or they don't have any problem with the US anymore, but the middle east is still un-stable as always

<AlexanderTT> yes africa gets much worse

<H1t|M4n> Wow

<blinkage> AlexanderTT: what about nationalistic groups (klu klux klan, neo-nazis) do they use the oppertunity?

<AlexanderTT> our attention turned abruptly from the mars race and cure for disease's race and we just wanted control of our country back

<H1t|M4n> And this is why when there are other countries suffering from the outside,they end up hurting everyone else around them in some way or the other .

<cerial> alex .. dec 19th .. this year ? significant ?

<algol_aida> or how about nov 5th

<AlexanderTT> if you live in the united states you will see the KKK and NN fighting along side blacks and Jews, are on prejudice is considered very small when faced with a common enemy

<cerial> jaysus

<AlexanderTT> the 19th will be a day to remember but not december, and not this year

<cerial> ah

<cerial> april 19th ?

<cerial> 3.45 pm ?

<blinkage> care on letting us in on the secret?

<blinkage> oh

<blinkage> washington?

<AlexanderTT> just remember and wait

<blinkage> but that was the 15th wasn't it?

<cerial> ok

<algol_aida> will there be any reactions to the outcome of the election on nov 4th?

<AlexanderTT> the elections in the states?

<blinkage> I bet your pants on that he'll cheat once again!

<algol_aida> yes, presidental election

<AlexanderTT> of course it will be a major turning point

<AlexanderTT> the country is divided right now remember?

<H1t|M4n> I think personaly that we have always been divided AlexanderTT,its just that as time goes on more people's eyes are opening up more .

<cerial> but its what happens in dec that is the bigger change right ?

<algol_aida> I must admin I have yet a lot to learn about the domestic politics of the US

<H1t|M4n> algol_aida its all trickery and lies

<AlexanderTT> This country has been under Martial law for decades , people will start to see that, frog in boiling water anybody?

<cerial> haa haa haa

<H1t|M4n> You're not missing out on nothing

<blinkage> and money

<cerial> nice comparsion

<cerial> well not really aida .. at the end of the day its doesn;t matter about the party polical .. its all set in a formula

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<algol_aida> doesn't the current patriot act allow the government to imprison people without any trial?

<cerial> and a flawed one at that

<H1t|M4n> Thank you cerial

<AlexanderTT> exactly, and you will all discover this formula

<H1t|M4n> HereAndNow how you doing buddy

<HereAndNow> hello Alex =)

<Cyberbomb> politics is like wrestling, fake yet entertaining =D

<AlexanderTT> there are no dems or repubs

<H1t|M4n> you registered that nic yet ?

<HereAndNow> doing good H1t|M4n

<HereAndNow> u?

<H1t|M4n> Me i'm kewl thanks for asking

<cerial> well it doesn;t matter know .. the formula i mean .. its too late to change it ?

<cerial> but that what starts the unsurge ?

<H1t|M4n> We never had a chance cerial HaHa

<AlexanderTT> it is one of many things

* blinkage wanders off to find his glasses

<cerial> of course !

<AlexanderTT> lies of your Government will become more and more in the open later this year continuing to the next

<HereAndNow> you doin ok Alex?

<cerial> alex .. does the system of do ur work = get to eat happen the world over or only in the states ?

<H1t|M4n> cerial you know the government that we have here today does not run the country right ?

<AlexanderTT> malitia's will be called up, the Government will start rounding people up like cattle and it just goes down hill from there

<cerial> do u know this i mean ?

<H1t|M4n> Its corporations

<cerial> i know ... the lobby system

<H1t|M4n>

<cerial> if u;ve got the money ... u've got the power

<H1t|M4n> How messed up is that

<algol_aida> bush has more cash-on-hand than all the other democratic candidates together times two

<AlexanderTT> money is an illusion

<cerial> its the same the world over ...

<blinkage> the problem in a materialistic world cerial

<cerial> i hate money ..

<algol_aida> and money apparently buys you a presidential chair

<AlexanderTT> stay happy you nice little consumers and we want have to bring our wrath open you

<blinkage> how much is it for a presidetial chair these days?

<algol_aida> around $70 million

<blinkage> ouch thats steep

<algol_aida> bush is backed by the oil industry

<cerial> go back to watching TV america ... u gov knows what its doin' !!!

<algol_aida> if you look closely, he has strings attached to him

<Cyberbomb> its almost surprising bill gates ain president =P

<blinkage> why bill gates should run for president... that would do wonders for his anti-trust case.

<HereAndNow> ya really

<algol_aida> -self

<blinkage> probably be cheaper too

<Cyberbomb> speaking of bill gates..

* cerial gets out his shogun .. bil gates ???

<cerial> hehe

<Cyberbomb> alexanderTT: what is the future of microsoft, is windows still as widely used as it is today or has open source taken the lead??

<AlexanderTT> why the hate for this man?

<blinkage> no hate, the man is just making a living

<AlexanderTT> open source is the most used software and unix has survived

<algol_aida> people often connect the qualities of Microsoft Windows personally with Bill Gates

<blinkage> only he's too good at it

<cerial> its his attiude to selling thats my problem

<AlexanderTT> windows still exists but it is now a graphical command line intrpretur

<Cyberbomb> ahh, thank you =D

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT i think you answered this before,what about Linux ?

<cerial> but its not a hate thing alex .. rather than a sickening of a crap software !

<blinkage> AlexanderTT: how do you contain the microsingularities in your time machine?

<cerial> frustration even

<AlexanderTT> it's still there

<H1t|M4n> k

<cerial> oh well ! some things will never change i guess !

<AlexanderTT> blinkage it is my understanding that they contain each other which is why the building your i isn't crushed when you make a jump

<cerial> ah ..

<cerial> each contain each others gravity fields ?

<AlexanderTT> yes in simple worlds

<AlexanderTT> words

<algol_aida> alexanderTT: are you or any other person travelling in you group well-versed in the physics behind time travel?

<Cyberbomb> many people hate microsoft because of its new system which it will be implecating into windows longhorn, it will make it so that microsoft can go into your computer and do many things without your consent or even knowing, and will make only microsoft approved software work on it, so programmers and developers will have to pay a licence, basicly microsoft is trying to control us to much, and securty is also a very alrge is****

<AlexanderTT> yes there are two who actually helped design the C404 here now

<algol_aida> it would be very interesting talking to them

<algol_aida> if they are allowed to disclose that information

<AlexanderTT> they would love to talk about it, in fact they are probably talking to physicist right now

<algol_aida> i'm very interested in physics in general

<H1t|M4n> Interesting

<cerial> its head expanding stuff alright

<AlexanderTT> each specialist sent back was given a mission on there speciality

<algol_aida> quantum mechanics at a new level

<algol_aida> or rather, another view at quantum mechanics

<algol_aida> the connection between gravity and time

<cerial> well rather the fact "time" doesn;t exsist !!

<algol_aida> perhaps time is gravity

<algol_aida> The Everett Interpretation is the place to start for people interested in the QM parts

<AlexanderTT> the most interesting reading I've done here so far has been a Machio Kaku, he sounds like he understand the quantum phoam theory

<cerial> phoam ?

<AlexanderTT> yes

<AlexanderTT> it was foam

<AlexanderTT> they changed the spelling

<algol_aida> is it Machio or Michio

<cerial> any particular reason

<algol_aida> google recommended Michio

<AlexanderTT> not completely sure

<AlexanderTT> google is probably right, and yes we still use google

<cerial> hs theorys were the basis for sthe TV show Sliders

<cerial> apearently

<AlexanderTT> I have heard of this show and it sounds very close to what our TT machine does

<cerial> its explains the theory of it well

<cerial> infintue paralell worlds

<AlexanderTT> well, we believe they are finite

<cerial> yes

<cerial> there are only a certain number of thing that could happen

<cerial> its a big number

<AlexanderTT> yes, but the number is so lage it's very close to our conception of infinite

<algol_aida> the (in)finities in time travel can create some paradoxes

<algol_aida> the number of opportunities to travel in time vs. the number of timelines

<AlexanderTT> there are no real paradoxes, because there are NO REAL TIME TRAVELING

<algol_aida> the first one has to be smaller than the last
 
mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

<cerial> huh ?

<cerial> no real time travellin ?

<cerial> ah more hoping between lines ?

<algol_aida> i think "real" would mean 0% divergence

<AlexanderTT> I use the term time traveling because you all understand it, we actual do temporal traveling or Worldline traveling

<AlexanderTT> I can not go back to my REAL past

<AlexanderTT> i have to go to yours or somebody elses, but it is so close to mine I will never know the difference

<H1t|M4n> Like for instance what differences will be obivious ?

<H1t|M4n> Your kids will be smarter in a different world line a dog but a different kind of breed ?

<AlexanderTT> for me here, I am at 0.96% somewhere in africa some ant decided to walk east instead of west, or something just as equaly small

<H1t|M4n> ok

<cerial> hehe

<cerial> thats a small difference

<AlexanderTT> yes that becomes apperent after about 1.5%, obvious changes like that

<cerial> has anyone traveller to a high diverenge ?

<AlexanderTT> the dog thing

<cerial> travelled

<H1t|M4n> I think i have an idea of what you're saying now

<AlexanderTT> In the spirit of exploration?

<cerial> yeah

<cerial> jus to se whats it like ?

<AlexanderTT> what could we possibly learn about a world in no way similar to our own

<cerial> to see how it could have turned out ?

<AlexanderTT> also the farthur away you get the hharder to return

<cerial> that would fasinate me ..

<cerial> ah

<H1t|M4n> k

<AlexanderTT> I'm sure it is in the making, but there is no need for that type of mission just yet

<AlexanderTT> We want to know what happened here, so we want do it again

<cerial> of course

<HereAndNow> when is the first time the people start to "attack" the gov't? what causes it?

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT do you have to do simulations before you are able to do the real thing i take it you have to huh ?

<AlexanderTT> there is really no way to simulate this.It is un-real, but you must go back and try to convince yourself to do something different for your first jump

<H1t|M4n> k

<AlexanderTT> it is almost impossible, but if you can take it, you are fit to continue your program

<H1t|M4n> How long does the training last ?

<cerial> wow

<AlexanderTT> It is very hard to watch yourself do the same mistake again, after you told him what would happen.This is the simulation if you want to call it that

<H1t|M4n> What i meant to ask was the Phsycological .

<AlexanderTT> Iwas in training for about 8 months, I was not fully trained, no need , the C404 is pre-proggramed

<H1t|M4n> ok

<AlexanderTT> You are tested to see if you can handle seeing the dead come back to life so-to-speak

<H1t|M4n> hmm

<AlexanderTT> but remember all thing that will - do, so on some worldline, I went crazy

<cerial> hehe

<HereAndNow> lets say, since you travelled here, that another you on a different worldline was travelling back in time also (since worldlines are so close to being the same). Is it possible that the other you could end up on the same worldline? so that there would be 2 future yous here?

<H1t|M4n> Theres a question i wanted to remember to ask,there were some readers on the board who said that Jt sent them a message from the future from themselves,and you said,you never saw the point in all that,I was trying to understand why they had a message sent to themselves also .

<AlexanderTT> Very possible.And we wait for such an event to happen it is a mathmetical certainty, but it has not happened yet to my knowledge

<HereAndNow> also, this question of mine got skipped =) . . . .

<HereAndNow> when is the first time the people start to "attack" the gov't? what causes it?

<AlexanderTT> I can see the curiosity involved with sending yourself a time capsule so to speak, but I don;t see how it could have changed there lives or descisions

<H1t|M4n> k

<AlexanderTT> herandnow, the first attack has already happened

<AlexanderTT> your CNN will not show you yet

<HereAndNow> i mean atack like a riot ..

<HereAndNow> this has happened?

<cerial> really ?

<H1t|M4n> This is in The U.S. right ?

<cerial> yes H1t|M4n

<AlexanderTT> the government has already started there offensive campaign, and people have already tried to fight back

<algol_aida> the power outage?

<HereAndNow> where has this been?

<H1t|M4n> algol_aida thats a good guess hehe

<cerial> nah..CNN reported that !

<cerial> recently u mean alex ?

<H1t|M4n> But not what really made it happen cerial

<AlexanderTT> no i'm talking about a simple neighbor trying to help when they know that there friend is being held with out due-cause

<HereAndNow> ahh i see

<HereAndNow> well, what i was really trying to ask about was like a riot of ppl attackin the gov't . . . has this happened yet?

<AlexanderTT> If you see soldiers swarm you friends house and start to take him, would you be temted to pick up a gun and fight?

<cerial> good point

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT i don't own a gun

<AlexanderTT> there will not be riot's like you think, the cities will be controlled

<HereAndNow> kk

<AlexanderTT> smaller towns will organize rebellions , but this wont happen yet, for martial law is still a good year away

<cerial> atfer the election ?

<cerial> martial law i mean ?

<HereAndNow> to answer your question: It depends on how well i know my neighbors, I really dont know - they could be involved in things i dont know about

<cerial> ashcroft has already stated that the bill of rights may be revoked if another attach occurs !

<AlexanderTT> yes, the election will help the unrest of the people and then the formaula in the electorial college will be found, the governemt will start broadcasting on the news what they are doing to your fellow countrymen, all will lead to martial law

<AlexanderTT> there will be another one, not from terrorist*

<cerial> well the last one wasn;t really a terrorist* either imo

<AlexanderTT> it was but, they were told what to do and funded

<cerial> well yeah ..

<AlexanderTT> your talking of 911 right?

<cerial> yep

<AlexanderTT> you know that wasn't the pearlharbor event they planned on

<cerial> yeah

<cerial> they've been say they'd need another one

<cerial> i'm jus been waiting for it ..

<cerial> the ppl are aking too many questions !!

<H1t|M4n> Remember what Bush said in his speak he will not ask for permission to defend the U.S.

<cerial> how do we subdue them .. instill fear in their hearts ..

<AlexanderTT> well 911 did not unite the people for war

<AlexanderTT> it made most want revenge but not war

<cerial> no ... but it got the "war on terrorism" started

<AlexanderTT> it was an excuse, a good enough excuse

<cerial> indeed

<cerial> new american century eh ?!

<H1t|M4n> True

<AlexanderTT> they tried before by attacking a US ship, don't remember the details but it didn't hav ethe effect desired

<cerial> the USS cole

<AlexanderTT> I think that sounds right, the one that didnt sink but had a hole in it

<H1t|M4n> Yeah i remember there was a guy who ran his boat with explosives right into it .

<cerial> yeah

<H1t|M4n> Mad a Big whole nothing else and some casualties

<H1t|M4n> I was suprised that with a Gapping whole that big it never sank

<AlexanderTT> they hoped that would start the anger of the sleeping giant

<cerial> china ?

<AlexanderTT> sleeping giant is the us

<H1t|M4n> U.S. cerial

<AlexanderTT> US

<cerial> sorry

<cerial> wasnl;t thinking there

<AlexanderTT> we have always been asleep intill war comes to our front door

<H1t|M4n> np

<cerial>

<AlexanderTT> and right now is no difference

<cerial> nope ...

<AlexanderTT> and trust me it will literally come to YOUR HOUSE

<cerial> i was telling my best mate about all this

<H1t|M4n> This is true and this is also my point,we don't care about whats really going on in other countries till it comees to our back door .

<cerial> and she said she didn;t want to know .. even if it was true ...

<blinkage> i think china is a sleeping giant, india too. together they hold 1/3 of the entire worlds population

<AlexanderTT> china is very much awake, and they are planning as we speak

<blinkage> and both of them have nuclear capabilities, chem and bio

<cerial> they hit at OZ and russia alex ?

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT what you do you think about Korea when the U.S. asked them if they had Nuklear weapons and they very Braizenly said yes .

<AlexanderTT> china is waiting for there day to take the world, they decide to do it, when the US becomes to busy fighting themselves

<AlexanderTT> I say they are fools and will show that soon enough

<HereAndNow> how popular is Nostradamus's prophecies in your time?

<AlexanderTT> not very , he hits only have the time, and his definitions are vague

<HereAndNow> he's done pretty good so far i would say

<blinkage> hmm... some of this reminds me of the prophesies of Nostradamus

<blinkage>
 
mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

<Payton2152001> Alex...If the next president is "pre-determained" who is the one to pre-determain him/her?

<AlexanderTT> there are many who believe it was in the bible, but I did't see it

<cerial> does the bible code recieve anymore notice in ur time ?

<AlexanderTT> payton you don't get it, these political enemies are not enemies at all, they could care less who gets elected , the formula is about what political views will be voted in

<algol_aida> bible code is just nonsense

<AlexanderTT> I read the book, wasn't impressed, bible code that is

<cerial> u think ?

<Payton2152001> who created the formula? why is it considerd a lie from the govt.?

<algol_aida> yes

<cerial> ok

<HereAndNow> im sorry if this has been answered, but is the next "terrorist*" attack soon?

<algol_aida> Bible Code - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com has some interesting points regarding bible code

<cerial> i've read a lot on it aida

<algol_aida> ok

<AlexanderTT> answer this and you will have your answer, how many time has the electrial college been revised? when was the last major revision

<cerial> there's jus some of the predictions that made me think

<AlexanderTT> soon enough hereandnow

<cerial> when it was written ?

<Payton2152001> gotcha Alex!

<cerial> really alex ?

<cerial> as in a few months away ?

<cerial> or in oct ?

<HereAndNow> i wish i was more educated on politics. . .

<AlexanderTT> cerial, if I start making 100% to the day, predictions, it would only be a matter of days before I am found and arrested

<cerial> i would expect u to alex

<cerial> i understand u can't

<AlexanderTT> it will be this year!

<cerial> ok

<cerial> hehe

<AlexanderTT> and it will be to help fuel the SECURITY campaign

<cerial> well that why they'd plan it ..

<AlexanderTT> after election time? maybe? or maybe before?

<cerial> one before .. one after ..

<AlexanderTT> you are all very intelligent, you'll figure it out

<AlexanderTT> let me ask all of you something

<AlexanderTT> what could BUSH present you with in order for you to Definetely vote for him agian?!?

<cerial> bin laden ?

<H1t|M4n> Nothing he can get out thats all he can do for me .

<AlexanderTT> *laughs

<Payton2152001> a better foriegn policy?

<cerial> release him from US custody .. back into US custody ?

<cerial>

<AlexanderTT> let me tell you how bush is seen in history books

<cerial> was that a no then alex ?

<HereAndNow> ok, i'll let ya

<HereAndNow> =)

<H1t|M4n> See but AlexanderTT even in that question that is almost a false hope,he will do something that everyone [the majority of ppl would like] and then go back to what he was put in there to do its all one big game to be playing with ppls lives AlexanderTT .

<AlexanderTT> a very good man, an honest man with the GOOD of America behind his descision's, however he was surrounded by men who misled him intentionally

<cerial> thes jus the face .. not the power

<cerial> cheney + ashcroth and the others make the plans ?

<blinkage> I imagine that Bush is easy to manipulate ...

<algol_aida> and rumsfeld

<AlexanderTT> Bush will realise what is going on under his nose, and will try to pull everything back together but it will be too late

<H1t|M4n> Cheney & Rumsfell are more powerfull than ppl give them credit for .

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<Cyberbomb> hi pyro =D

<cerial> hey pyro

<pyro2000> hey =D

<cerial> alex did u see this post ???

<cerial> Three different worldlines ending in same war. WC, HD, and JK. JK expected to take on GB by 43% chance now, only 7% variation in shift. Worldline survival if JE to acquire DN, 26% greater. Possability to acquire DN: 23%.

<H1t|M4n> W/B pyro2000

<pyro2000> hmm, is anyone asking Alex a question or am i to wait in line?

<cerial> more nonsense ?

<AlexanderTT> sounds like non-sense to me

<cerial> cool beans

<AlexanderTT> go ahead pyro

<pyro2000> what is non sense??

<pyro2000> That wasn't my question haha, but um, Are we going to experience a terrorist* Attack, between now and the elections?

<AlexanderTT> ther are billions of worldline doing the same thing you all are

<cerial> was asked pyro

<cerial> and yes we are ..

<cerial>

<AlexanderTT> i didnt say that of course but like I said you are all smart and will figur it out

<cerial> ah .. i get u alex

<cerial> another "event" will happen

<AlexanderTT> and just bescause it's not a major event like 911 deosnt mean it isnt part of the whole plan

<pyro2000> So wait, its not as big as 9/11?

<cerial> sorry for misquoting u btw alex

<pyro2000> Alex, will we have this "terrorist*" attack between today and February 6th??

<AlexanderTT> ok, let me take you down logic lane, let's walk together

<cerial> hehehe

<pyro2000> Logic Lane?

* cerial holds alexs hand

<AlexanderTT> ok... let's say another 911 happened before the election

<AlexanderTT> follow me so far? please say someone has figured it out

<AlexanderTT> if not we will continue the walk

<pyro2000> keep walking haha

<HereAndNow> lets ...ya

<cerial> it gives bush back the support of the ppl ...

<AlexanderTT> ok.....what would that say about all the security Bush put into place?

<pyro2000> Your saying that a terrorist* attack, would be a cause for this Civil War?

<AlexanderTT> no

<cerial> it not working

<pyro2000> Ok im 100% lost.

<cerial> they need more

<AlexanderTT> ok

<AlexanderTT> hold on i'll type up a full explanation..

<algol_aida> and they easilly trade their freedom for more security

<Payton2152001> it means a terrorist* attack AFTER the elections

<cerial> stronger patriot act so to speack ?

<pyro2000> Ok Alex, please do so =D

<Cyberbomb> another 911 attack would weeken peoples bad judgements about the patriot act etc

<AlexanderTT> if another 911 happened , then Bush's plans of security would be seen as crap, his chance of being re-elected would go down, but if an "event" happened it wouls show the peopl that there is still a threat and Bush needs to remain to Kill the Threat

<cerial> ah

<pyro2000> Oh, so were indefinetly in for an attack?

<cerial> they "uncover" and stop another attacl

<AlexanderTT> however after the election, is a different story, because now they have four years to enslavle you

<pyro2000> enslave?

<pyro2000> Were slaves to our government

<AlexanderTT> they will try to make you slaves

<AlexanderTT> hence the civil war to come

* HereAndNow loads his shotgun

<HereAndNow> im ready

<AlexanderTT> I like that attitude

<HereAndNow> i was born a confeferate!

<HereAndNow> =)

<pyro2000> haha, im in Ohio

<HereAndNow> confederate even

<cerial> hehe

<AlexanderTT> remember how I said that some would remain neutral?

<cerial> yes

<pyro2000> States?

<AlexanderTT> those are the people who you see and talk to everyday right now, and they tell you that another civil war is non-sense

<pyro2000> Oh, well, obviously im not neutral
 
mIRC Jan. 29, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Phoenix
Session Start: Mon Jan 29 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn
The following Log is UNEDITED. it is from the latest Chat with Alex on mIRC.

<AlexanderTT> they are more a threat to you than the US military

<HereAndNow> why is that

<HereAndNow> ?

<AlexanderTT> ever heard of double agents?

<pyro2000> Great, my whole neighboorhood is a threat to me then

<HereAndNow> hmm nope

<AlexanderTT> some of there attitudes will change pyro

<pyro2000> Ok, good. I'm not gunna go into this alone.

<Payton2152001> that's a scary notion alex..double agents

<cerial> is there anything else u can tell me about what happens in europe ?

<AlexanderTT> "Sure I let you hide at my place for a night!!" meanwhile they go to there phone, "we have some of those rebel freaks over here now"

<HereAndNow> ahh thats a dbl agent?

<AlexanderTT> yep

<HereAndNow> kk i see

<HereAndNow> well, i have good judge of character. . i will know those ppl

<HereAndNow> when i see em

<pyro2000> Well Alex, can you give me some sort of date as to when an attack, or the first of the rising actions to a Civil war begins?

<AlexanderTT> cerial, you have a yet to go, and you'll not have to worry about you own government, but many of your neighbors will rebel in fear of the same happening to them that happens to the US

<cerial> ic

<AlexanderTT> pyro have you heard of those crazy people who run around and train in the woods for a coming war?

<cerial> well ye're all invited over here if ye need somewhere to start over !!!

<AlexanderTT> maybe there not so crazy

<Payton2152001> the US militia alex...I've been doing research lately on them

<Payton2152001> very interesting...they speak the same language as you

<AlexanderTT> language?

<pyro2000> i was gunna ask that too

<Payton2152001> say the same things...about the govt.

<Payton2152001> that they've never even read the constitution

<Payton2152001> and that they don't know what freedom is

<pyro2000> interesting.

<Payton2152001> what's scariest is the position the govt. takes on them

<AlexanderTT> well guess what I gre up in?

<algol_aida> will there be large amounts of propaganda to convince people into their side?

<AlexanderTT> grew

<AlexanderTT> into the governments side yes

<algol_aida> i see that as likely

<algol_aida> ok

<algol_aida> are they in any way successful?

<AlexanderTT> yes

<algol_aida> do people easilly change their mind?

<AlexanderTT> yesin the beginning

<algol_aida> ok.

<pyro2000> Alex, does Ohio play a part in the Civil War??

<AlexanderTT> by 2008 what side you've choosen you will most likely remain

<AlexanderTT> every state plasy a part in the civil war

<AlexanderTT> this will not be like the first

<AlexanderTT> it will be nationwide

<pyro2000> Are there actual battles, like in the 1st Civil War, where we actually fought with guns against each other, or will it be like hit and runs at nights

<AlexanderTT> it will be completely guerrila warfare

<Payton2152001> will militia have to fight against air strikes and superior technology much?

<AlexanderTT> yes

<AlexanderTT> airplanes become something you have nightmares about

<HereAndNow> will they use chem/bio weaps on us?

<HereAndNow> or just bombs

<AlexanderTT> no, in fear of more defections they do not

<HereAndNow> kk

<algol_aida> will us citizens try to leave the us? to avoid the war?

<AlexanderTT> a lot will

<pyro2000> ha, ill be first in line to kill some people

<pyro2000> probably first to die too

<AlexanderTT> that's how I felt from the time I was 7 years old

<AlexanderTT> I wanted to fight

<AlexanderTT> death is something you will forget about, because you are fighting for your liberty

<pyro2000> exactly

<algol_aida> i assume pro-american countries like the united kingdom will be on the government's side, or?

<Payton2152001> are there many negotiations between the govt. and the militia?

<pyro2000> im only 15 but im not going to give up my rights, death is a part of life, I'll die but I'll know that the people living will have a better life

<AlexanderTT> We did not allow ANY negoiations, we wanted them out of power completely, and we would still be fighting today if russia had not have helped us

<HereAndNow> do u think we woulda won had it not been for russia?

<AlexanderTT> if your in alabama pyro, join the pickens county malitia when the time comes, that's where I fought

<AlexanderTT> We would have won, but we would still be fighting in 2039

<HereAndNow> wow

<pyro2000> Alex, im in Ohio

<AlexanderTT> it would have taken a long long time

<pyro2000> Anything good up here, so i can kill some imbociles?

<AlexanderTT> pyro when the time comes, you'll know where to go if you want to fight

<AlexanderTT> it want take long , anger is great motivation to form groups

<Payton2152001> is it easy to just leave your home and join a militia? or does the government try to intercept?

<pyro2000> The government, will be after me prolly on day 1. I'll be the person that will be a rebel, I'll be the first in line rebel

<AlexanderTT> they will be looking for you after you leave the house, the malitia will constently be moving, you will have better capabilities than you thought though, a lot US military will defect

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<pyro2000> i have a few cousins in the army and marines, i would shoot them if it came down to it

<cerial> alex .. u laughed when i said bin laden ...

<cerial> is this why ?

<cerial> Bin Laden: Described in history books as one of the last examples of "the monster in the closet factor" so dear to policy makers since the advent of state-sponsored warfare

<cerial> was posted by bbboris on the boards

<AlexanderTT> I had came across my best friends body one day, in 2015. he was wearing a National Gaurd uniform, I gave him proper burial, I did not hate him, I hated the people controling him

<pyro2000> why would he do such a thing

<AlexanderTT> I laughed because it was just too obvious

<cerial> ah right ..

<cerial> haa haa haa

<pyro2000> Seriously though, why would someone join the National guard, if you knew that the WHOLE united states hated you.

<AlexanderTT> pyro, I wish Iknew

<AlexanderTT> its not the whole

<AlexanderTT> it will be about 35-40 % that rebel

<pyro2000> What is it basically like the Revoluitionary War, where there were tories?

<cerial> only the rebels ?

<AlexanderTT> didnt understand the question

<pyro2000> mine or cerial?>

<AlexanderTT> both

<AlexanderTT> *laughs

<H1t|M4n> HeHe

<AlexanderTT> it seems that other people in here have gottin quiet

<cerial> i ment ... when u said not the whole .. i was referring to the rebels as a guess

<Cyberbomb> im still here =D

<H1t|M4n> I'm still here letting everyone kinda talk though

<cerial> lurkers ...

<AlexanderTT> yes cerial

<Payton2152001> I've been contimplating my next question...you've been very thourough alex

<Cyberbomb> no cerial... pr0n watchers =P

<cerial> haa haa haa

<HereAndNow> haa haa haa

<pyro2000> Alex, may I PM you, i have a question that i would not like let loose

<AlexanderTT> sure

<cerial> yeah .. im trying to think of good questions .. but its hard !!

<HereAndNow> aye, i need to PM u also when I can. .

<pyro2000> ive been sitting on questions ALL DAY

<HereAndNow> lemme know when pls

<AlexanderTT> go ahead hereandnow

<algol_aida> will pro-american countries in europe support the government side?

<algol_aida> or will they stay out of the entire conflict

<AlexanderTT> a lot and I mean a LOT will support the Governments side out of fear, but everyday people will not

<H1t|M4n> Frog and Daboga should come here they are always asking these long lists of questions,I think real time talking would suite them just fine

<algol_aida> bush's statement "either you're with us or against us" comes to mind

<cerial> indeed

<HereAndNow> going away for a min to eat . .

<H1t|M4n> ok HereAndNow

<HereAndNow> actually b4 i go, alex may i PM you pls

<HereAndNow> ?

<AlexanderTT> yes

<AlexanderTT> I said go ahead

<H1t|M4n> AlexanderTT how much money you estimate it will take you to live on till you mission is done,this is really off topic here now .

<Cyberbomb> AlexanderTT: Ive been reading alot of storys lately about how iraq's WMD' have found there way into syria, Will Bush attack syria because of this, what effect will syria have on the comeing terrorist* attacks or wars, will bush attack iran, also, what is to become of north korea, what will they do with their nuclear weapons, will the help destroy the us government??, ( sorry for all the questions all at once, i gtg soon =P)

<AlexanderTT> hitman, probably about 10,000 given expenses of fuel

<AlexanderTT> i eat mostly from a garden and I do not need materialistic things

<H1t|M4n> 10 for awhole year

<H1t|M4n> Wow you are resourcfull then

<AlexanderTT> cyberbomb, the wmd's will be used against isreal

<AlexanderTT> bush will do nothing

<Cyberbomb> thx =D good night all

<AlexanderTT> northkorea will be too busy trying to stop china

<pyro2000> NIGHT!!

<pyro2000> we will miss you cyber

* Cyberbomb is now known as CyberbombAFK

<CyberbombAFK> ill miss u to pyro =D

<CyberbombAFK> night yall

<cerial> cya cyber

<HereAndNow> later Cyber

<H1t|M4n> Take Care CyberbombAFK

<pyro2000> haha

<Payton2152001> will militia have effective ways to communicate with each other? will they have access to media/world events?

<AlexanderTT> i really must get going on my roadtrip

<AlexanderTT> no, communication will be terrible

<Payton2152001> cool...thanks for answering my questions..have fun on your road trip..will you be gone for long?

<pyro2000> road trip where you going??

<AlexanderTT> I am going to me a very interesting individual

<Payton2152001> how so?

<AlexanderTT> I go on road trips almost everyday, don't worry I'll be back by tommorrow

<pyro2000> Yay!!

<cerial> ok alex .. take care of urself

<Payton2152001> later!

<pyro2000> Take cre

<pyro2000> care

<AlexanderTT> goodnight everyone

<H1t|M4n> Take Care AlexanderTT

<cerial> night night

<AlexanderTT> i still don't understand the register the nick thing but I'll try it again another time, goodnight again and take care

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mIRC Jan. 31, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: Mon Jan 31 15:04:26 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn

[15:04] * Topic is 'RULES ARE NOT NEGOTIATIABLE : NO THREATS TO OTHER USERS, NO PROFANITY, SHOW RESPECT, NO PRIVATE MESSAGING WITHOUT ASKING IN CHANNEL FIRST, ALL NICKS MUST BE REGISTERED..DEVIATION RESULTS IN A BAN. Edited Channel logs are at the Feedback section of the forum.'

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[15:04] * ChanServ sets mode: +o H1t|M4n

[15:04] <Florida_Jim> Is pot legal in Norway? Or is it only Amsterdam that allows it?

[15:04] <algol_aida> not legal in norway

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[15:05] <algol_aida> not even posession of dosages for personal use

[15:05] <Florida_Jim> Not that I indulge myself.

[15:05] <Florida_Jim> I do think it's interesting that the time travelers speak of freedom to use herbs.

[15:06] <algol_aida> or freedoms in general

[15:06] <Florida_Jim> Right.

[15:06] <Florida_Jim> It seems silly to me to have people in jail for selling *****s.

[15:07] <algol_aida> yes

[15:07] <algol_aida> but i must leave now

[15:07] <algol_aida> take care

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[15:11] <blink|awy> I built the greatest snow cavern ever today!

[15:11] <Florida_Jim> hehe

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[15:15] <AlexanderTT> wow I made a dent in my e-mail today

[15:16] <AlexanderTT> well it looks like I'm going to need to notify people that I am here

[15:19] <AlexanderTT> is anyone awake out there?

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[15:19] <Renzian> yo

[15:19] <AlexanderTT> hello and good evening

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> Hello Alexander.

[15:20] <Payton2152001> hello alex

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> Pamela says you sound more and more like John.

[15:20] <Renzian> Hi, Alexander, I have a question I'd like to ask; I just emailed it to you, but now that I've discovered you're on IRC, I'd like to ask it here

[15:20] <Payton2152001> I've sent you a PM entitled "irc chat" please read it when you get a chance.

[15:20] <AlexanderTT> I hope people from the forum show up, I feel like having a nice chat today

[15:20] <Renzian> What's the status of Canada in the coming civil war and the 2030's?

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> We were chatting here about the fact that John had contacted many scientists while he was here.

[15:20] <Payton2152001> I think I am

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> Algol said the C404 technician was in contact with some scientists.

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> What's the purpose of making contact with scientists from the past?

[15:20] <Florida_Jim> If you don't mind my asking.

[15:21] <AlexanderTT> wow those all came at once, give me a sec

[15:21] <Renzian> hello alex

[15:21] <Renzian> sorry if I started popping questions too quick..

[15:22] <AlexanderTT> the status of canada is a war torn country trying to get back together, they had a revolution as well

[15:23] <AlexanderTT> John was very passionate about the science behind time travel , i guess he contacted them to have conversation the were plaesing to him

[15:23] <AlexanderTT> it would make sense that one of the 2 specialist of the C404 would be making contact with scientist's

[15:24] <Renzian> I see..

[15:24] <Florida_Jim> But clearly he influenced their thinking. I noticed a change in Michio Kaku's ideas after conversing with John.

[15:24] <Renzian> Was it the same rural-vs-city conflict, or was it different?

[15:24] <Florida_Jim> Is there some kind of mission to advance science in our time?

[15:24] <AlexanderTT> I would hope he changed there idea's.

[15:25] <AlexanderTT> canada's struggle was nore territorial, quebec versus the rest is a good way to describe it

[15:25] <Payton2152001> Alex...I was very very intrueged by some of your strategies of war..particularly the one about using money to lure opposing forces in...can you tell us about anymore strategies your group used?

[15:25] <AlexanderTT> no jim no mission to advance science, but don't you think it would be fun to go back and talk about airplane's with the wright brothers?

[15:26] <Florida_Jim> Yes, I do.

[15:26] <AlexanderTT> I would very much love to talk military strategy

[15:26] <AlexanderTT> that is my specialty if I have one

[15:26] <Payton2152001> It is something that interests me a lot

[15:26] <AlexanderTT> what problem do you see? I will try to explain how we over came it.

[15:26] <Renzian> ah

[15:26] <Renzian> the separatist struggle

[15:27] <Payton2152001> gaining supplies

[15:27] <Renzian> One last question about Canada: Will Vancouver and the Lower Mainland and/or the interior of British Columbia be a safe place to be during the civil war and the nuclear war?

[15:27] <Renzian> sorry, I'll wait till everyone else is done

[15:27] <Florida_Jim> being tracked with cash

[15:28] <AlexanderTT> canada did not recieve many nuclear attacks

[15:29] <AlexanderTT> gaining supplies was done by attacking small towns with a small military force over seeing them, we took the town and gathered supplies

[15:29] <AlexanderTT> also we were very efficient at gathering remanders left over from a battle

[15:29] <Payton2152001> was there an ample amount of supplies?

[15:29] <Renzian> interesting
 
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Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn

[15:30] <AlexanderTT> not at first but the more organized we got the better we were at supplying our needs

[15:30] <Payton2152001> did the lack of supplys cause internal conflict amoungst your comrads?

[15:31] <AlexanderTT> no, we never deviated from the chain of command, maybe it happened else-where but never in my unit, some soldiers fell over dead from starvation though

[15:31] <Florida_Jim> How did the various factions communicate to organize their efforts?

[15:31] <Payton2152001> since your group was always on the run...how did you set up Baraks?

[15:32] <Payton2152001> heh..sory Jim

[15:32] <Florida_Jim> No need.

[15:32] <AlexanderTT> we didn't to start with, however later on we aquiered military issue communication devices from military that defected to our side, we would use this to help communications

[15:33] <AlexanderTT> baraks?

[15:33] <Renzian> barracks

[15:33] <Renzian> like, quarters and such

[15:33] <AlexanderTT> no we just would sleep in trees or on the ground

[15:33] <Renzian> rooming

[15:33] <Payton2152001> no..for training your troops

[15:33] <Renzian> Oh

[15:33] <Renzian> that kind of barracks

[15:33] <AlexanderTT> everytime we would try to settle in somewhere we would be attacked so we gave up on trying to build a town our city

[15:34] <AlexanderTT> training, was going out and fighting un-fortunately, but it was highly effective

[15:34] <Florida_Jim> How many people were on your side during the civil war?

[15:34] <AlexanderTT> sometimes we had ex military personnel training troops as we moved

[15:35] <AlexanderTT> maybe 40-45% of the country

[15:35] <AlexanderTT> probably a little lower

[15:36] <Florida_Jim> What percentage of those would be consider combatants?

[15:36] <AlexanderTT> GPS's were able to be tracked as well it took us awhile to figure that out

[15:36] <Renzian> I have a question about society in the 2030s; John said that society became more like a "community", yet he says the internet is more advanced and that there's a high-speed railsystem in place? Does this mean that there are Cities in the 2030s, Cities like New York and such, or are areas mainly rural?

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[15:36] <AlexanderTT> about 15% I would guess

[15:36] <Cyberbomb> IM GOING TO k*** DALNET

[15:36] <Cyberbomb> ...

[15:37] <Cyberbomb> hi alex =D

[15:37] <AlexanderTT> there are cities yes, but each city acts like a cummunity, they provide for themselves as much as possible and family is charished

[15:37] <Renzian> ah

[15:37] <AlexanderTT> hello cyber

[15:37] <Payton2152001> if you can tell me off the top of your head..what are some other strategies you used to ambush opposing forces?

[15:38] <Renzian> Does popular culture still exist? For example, is Star Wars still prominent/known of in the 2030s?

[15:38] <Renzian> Star Wars as in the movies and such

[15:38] <AlexanderTT> My favorite was we would get all of the deer hunters to put on the best camoflauge and wait in tree's like snipers, extremely effective if the guns are silenced

[15:38] <AlexanderTT> yes we still have entertainment

[15:39] <AlexanderTT> also we learned how to set up an 8 point perimeter

[15:40] <AlexanderTT> bow and arrows were used to sound an alarm, if leather is attached to the back of an arrow it makes a unigue sound going through the air

[15:40] <Renzian> 8 point perimeter. interesting

[15:40] <AlexanderTT> imagine a square around where you are

[15:40] <AlexanderTT> one person for each side and one for each corner

[15:40] <Payton2152001> yup

[15:41] <Payton2152001> awsome...this is by far my favorite conversation yet

[15:41] <AlexanderTT> mine too

[15:42] <AlexanderTT> we learned to melt down all sorts of things we also got very good and reloading ammo

[15:42] <Payton2152001> did you gain a lot of resources from k***ing enemies? like land mines/heavy guns, bullet proof vests?

[15:42] <AlexanderTT> a tank track could supply us with a large amount of ammo and other metal items

[15:43] <AlexanderTT> of course, we took everything we could from them

[15:43] <Florida_Jim> How many of them were there?

[15:43] <Florida_Jim> At their peak, before the defectors.

[15:43] <AlexanderTT> flak jackets would be duoubled up , its heavy but you could get shot three or four times and it not get though

[15:44] <Payton2152001> was fire used to melt metal? wouldn't that give away your position?

[15:44] <AlexanderTT> we actually met up with defectors first, the largest battle I ever saw completely destroyed all the trees in a bout a 2 square mile area

[15:44] <AlexanderTT> fire was used during the day time, and did you know you can actually catch a lot of the smoke?

[15:45] <Payton2152001> no I didn't how is this done?

[15:45] <Florida_Jim> blankets?

[15:45] <AlexanderTT> wet cloth in the shape of a chimney

[15:45] <AlexanderTT> battery acid was used alot with our traps

[15:46] <Payton2152001> battery acid? do tell!

[15:46] <AlexanderTT> its very flammible under the right conditions

[15:46] <Renzian> ...Of course. I think I get it now. It makes sense. Russia attacking America during the civil war was in its best interests. Russia would be getting rid of its enemy [US Government], while the American people would form a new government, which would benefit Russia.

[15:46] <AlexanderTT> of course, we told them to launch

[15:46] <AlexanderTT> if not we would probably still be fighting

[15:47] <Renzian> rebels got to the russian government and requested the assistance of the russian government?

[15:47] <AlexanderTT> we got the idea from china launching against the western US

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[15:47] <AlexanderTT> we were able to send sattelite communication

[15:47] <Renzian> Also, this is brought up many times on the forum: How can Omaha be the new capital if it was probably nuked alot, since Omaha is the center for US Nuclear Weapon Control?

[15:48] <Florida_Jim> limited launches

[15:48] <AlexanderTT> Onaha did not recieve a single warhead

[15:48] <Renzian> ah

[15:48] <Renzian> but what kept the American Federal Empire from retaliating with a nuclear strike?

[15:48] <Renzian> if Omaha has tons of nuclear warheads?

[15:48] <AlexanderTT> the missile defense system worked for military targets better than large cities

[15:49] <AlexanderTT> they did retaliate

[15:49] <Renzian> and Russia was hit hard, eh..

[15:49] <Renzian> but later the rebels took Omaha, right?

[15:49] <Florida_Jim> Why would Russia agree to attack knowing the devestation they would face?

[15:49] <AlexanderTT> not as bad as you think, there wasn't much left to launch people or controls

[15:50] <Renzian> also, what will Canada's role be in the American Civil War? Will they harbor rebels, assist rebels, assist america in fighting the rebels?

[15:50] <Cyberbomb> this was answered before,l canada does nothing

[15:50] <AlexanderTT> it was worth it, America was at the highest point of it's evil

[15:50] <Renzian> Florida_Jim: My guess is the benefits outweighed the risk. Russia would be devastated, but out of it a new America arises.

[15:50] <AlexanderTT> as far as canada goes, I don't personally trust anyone who speaks french hope this makes sense to you

[15:50] <Renzian> I find it kinda hard to believe, what with Canada being America's neighbour. Unless America told Canada to butt out or something.

[15:51] <Renzian> ...The Quebecois Revolution?

[15:51] <Renzian> Wait, here's something maxwell said on the forums

[15:51] <Renzian> Moscow and parts of China were entirely wiped out, minutes after they launched a nuclear attack on the United States. Once again, I never said whether or not Omaha was or was not nuked. The term "easier" as you understand, does not nessecarily mean physically easier. The motive behind nuking the Unites States did not require strategy. They knew they were going to be counter-attacked as soon as the missles were launched. They picke

[15:51] <Cyberbomb> how is the canadian civil war simular to the american one, how is it different/?

[15:51] <AlexanderTT> yes many countries were told to stay out of the struggle, but at the same time some were asked to support the government

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[15:52] <Payton2152001> alex...was militia intelligence a important in the war? where there any rescue missions?

[15:52] <Renzian> Canada wasn't asked?

[15:52] <Cyberbomb> hey pyro =

[15:52] <Cyberbomb> =D

[15:52] <Payton2152001> hi pyro!

[15:53] <Renzian> So...did Quebec win or lose in Canada?

[15:53] <Renzian> and does the name Belinda Stronach ring a bell? Will she be an important figure?

[15:53] <AlexanderTT> the only rescue mission launched was to get and free the prisoner's on the rail cars, We had gotten info of there location while it was going through alabama, but they were already dead

[15:54] <Florida_Jim> Sounds like WWII Germany.

[15:56] <Payton2152001> where there any spies in the govt. working for militia...or vice versa?

[15:57] <Renzian> ugh

[15:57] <Renzian> gtg visit my grandfather, but I'll keep the computer on so I can keep logging

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[15:58] <Florida_Jim> Aside from demonic influence, what was the motivation of the U.S. Governement to commit such attrocities against it's own citizens?

[15:59] <AlexanderTT> sorry I had to do something real quick, what did I miss?

[15:59] <AlexanderTT> I don't know about demons they just wanted absolute control
 
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Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn

[16:00] <AlexanderTT> no spies

[16:00] <Florida_Jim> What was your job just prior to entering Time Recon?

[16:00] <Payton2152001> in your opinion is it better to go into this war skinny or fat?

[16:01] <AlexanderTT> I did not have a job, I helped on the community farm, and also helped build houses

[16:02] <AlexanderTT> skinny, start eating less now, let your body get used to it

[16:02] <Florida_Jim> How are new communities being structured in your time?

[16:04] <AlexanderTT> we provide for our neighbors, if you do not help your are punished and cast out

[16:05] <Florida_Jim> I meant as far as construction goes. Is the farm at the center and dwellings radiate outward or is it random?

[16:05] <AlexanderTT> diferent for diferent towns

[16:05] <AlexanderTT> just depends

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> hrm

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> maxwell probably is lying

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> here's a post of his

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> Most of the cities on the East Coast were reduced to pummel. Most of the major cities on the west coast were destroyed as well. Omaha Nebraska is indeed the capital of my country. Omaha was not 100% after 2015. It maintained damage, but not nearly as much as major cities. The Russians launched this attack themselves. Our rebel faction did not contact them, although I believe the Russians did have an amount of sympathy towards our

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> He claims the rebel factions never contacted russia, whereas you claim he did [I'm not calling you a]

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> oh wait

[16:06] <Renz|AFK> worldlines

[16:07] <Renz|AFK> sorry for constantly interrupting

[16:07] <Payton2152001> what if I were to use these military strategies in the upcoming war? as I see it, it took a long time to figure some of these thing out. And if I were to give insight on these ideas it would influence militia for the better...do you see a problem with this?

[16:07] <AlexanderTT> no problem

[16:07] <AlexanderTT> maxwell may have just been misinformed

[16:08] <Florida_Jim> Any idea what the farthest trip back in time has been?

[16:08] <AlexanderTT> comunications back then was terrible, we are still trying to peice everything back together, which is why I am here

[16:08] <AlexanderTT> somewhere around the late 50's

[16:09] <Florida_Jim> Does all time travel revolve around historical documentation or is there some other goal?

[16:10] <AlexanderTT> well most is for the search of knowledge and before we can understand the future we must understand our own past

[16:11] <AlexanderTT> i mean if you could travel time but not change the past, what would you do besides learn?

[16:11] <Florida_Jim> What countries came to your aid during the civil war?

[16:11] <Florida_Jim> Learning is the best use.

[16:12] <AlexanderTT> russia and that's about it, no supplies or troops were given to use

[16:12] <AlexanderTT> we were on our own

[16:13] <Payton2152001> would it be wise to buy a bullet proof vest before the war?

[16:13] <AlexanderTT> I am suprised at the lack of confidence most of you have, when you are fighting for a purpose you are a very strong army

[16:13] <AlexanderTT> no one less thing you can carry when you leave the house

[16:13] <Florida_Jim> I just find it hard to believe it goes on for a decade!

[16:14] <AlexanderTT> you will need to move very fast in the beginning

[16:14] <AlexanderTT> well, do you see a way we could have ended it quicker?

[16:14] <Payton2152001> are road blocks a big problem?

[16:14] <AlexanderTT> we did not have the force to take large cities

[16:14] <AlexanderTT> we did not travel roads

[16:14] <Florida_Jim> No, I'm just amazed that those who wanted control would continue to pursue that stupid goal with all the resistance.

[16:15] <Florida_Jim> Did they really think Americans would just roll-over and play dead?

[16:15] <AlexanderTT> they were winning, the cities did not have fighting, they hade all the large cities under there control

[16:15] <Payton2152001> I'm sorry...as far as escaping from your home...not in military combat

[16:15] <AlexanderTT> alot of them did

[16:15] <Florida_Jim> Sad.

[16:16] <Cyberbomb> Alex: what were the similarity's and differences between the american and the canadian civil war???

[16:16] <H1t|M4n> yes indeed Florida_Jim .

[16:16] <AlexanderTT> very little similarities

[16:16] <AlexanderTT> it was more like the first american civil war

[16:16] <AlexanderTT> part of canada wanted to be seperate

[16:17] <Florida_Jim> Land of the free, home of the brave huh?

[16:17] <AlexanderTT> definetely home of the brave in persuit of freedom

[16:17] <Payton2152001> Alex..can you describe the method you used for fleeing from your home to join militia?

[16:17] <Florida_Jim> Which parts of the country fell easier?

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[16:18] <Florida_Jim> I can't see all these shotgun toting fellas in the south caving easily.

[16:18] <AlexanderTT> well I didnt just run out and join, I was to young, my parents ran out with me at there side, we took to the woods and years later I joined the malitia

[16:19] <ebay-outlet> hey room, hey alex

[16:19] <Payton2152001> hey ebay

[16:20] <AlexanderTT> well the shotgun toting rednecks were actually a name of a group

[16:20] * AlexanderTT laughs

[16:20] <Florida_Jim> hahaha

[16:20] <ebay-outlet> haa haa haa

[16:20] <AlexanderTT> they did there share of damage if I remember correctly

[16:20] <Payton2152001> haha

[16:20] <Florida_Jim> I almost said rednecks but didn't want to offend anyone.

[16:21] <AlexanderTT> i think they were from the dothan area

[16:21] <ebay-outlet> haa haa haa my friend's a redneck she calls herself one lmao

[16:22] <AlexanderTT> you should be proud of that, rednecks became your army in the south

[16:23] <AlexanderTT> we didn't take any crap if you know what i mean

[16:23] <Florida_Jim> The government must have tempted people with something to gain their submission. Food, water, houses, what?

[16:23] <Florida_Jim> Yeah, I know what you mean.

[16:23] <AlexanderTT> oh yeah we were tempted with propoganda, but I never sa anyone even flinch

[16:24] <ebay-outlet> thought the gov't tempted ppl w/ 'security' and 'safety'

[16:24] <AlexanderTT> I would rather d** than betray the TRUE AMERICAN IDEALS

[16:24] <ebay-outlet> ppl now a days are so stupid haa haa haa

[16:24] <AlexanderTT> that is how they lured people into the cities ebay

[16:25] <Florida_Jim> Give me liberty or give me d****.

[16:25] <AlexanderTT> amen!!

[16:25] <ebay-outlet> how can you believe what you see on tv when the gov't controls what is said..

[16:25] <AlexanderTT> finally I'm not the only one sayin that

[16:26] <ebay-outlet> like don't know if any of you know about moveon.org-- but they tried putting an ad up about the deficit problem and cbs wouldn't air it...

[16:26] <Florida_Jim> So are the railcars already running?

[16:26] <ebay-outlet> said it was 'controversial'

[16:26] <AlexanderTT> oh but we can watch your jerry springer on t.v though

[16:27] <Florida_Jim> What a legacy to the future that crap is!

[16:27] <ebay-outlet> haa haa haa i know, you can't say anything bad about the gov't on tv--but jerry springer's ok

[16:27] <AlexanderTT> I am appaled by most of your t.v., i usually watch c-span to see how much they are leting be known

[16:27] <ebay-outlet> mhmm.... there's one blatant right bein' taken away--freedom of speech/press...

[16:28] <H1t|M4n> Now C-Span is excellent,they came along a few years ago

[16:28] <ebay-outlet> c-span is one of the only stations i watch, n still not too often, fox n cbs are both very biased....

[16:28] <H1t|M4n> yeah they are ebay-outlet

[16:29] <ebay-outlet> hey brb--dinners ready

[16:29] <Florida_Jim> Have the "concentration camps" been built already? Are they in operation?

[16:29] <ebay-outlet> we already have one that i know of
 
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[16:30] <ebay-outlet> guantanamo bay

[16:30] <Florida_Jim> I mean within the lower 48

[16:30] <ebay-outlet> oh haa haa haa..

[16:31] <Florida_Jim> guantanamo is probably where the trouble makers from the camps will end up

[16:31] <AlexanderTT> sorry went and got a nice organic hot dog

[16:31] <AlexanderTT> home made of course

[16:32] <Florida_Jim> I'd love to hear the story behind that!

[16:32] <AlexanderTT> yes there are camps

[16:33] <AlexanderTT> the men will be put on trains though

[16:33] <Florida_Jim> Have people started disappearing already?

[16:33] <AlexanderTT> sure have

[16:33] <Florida_Jim> What's the cover story?

[16:34] <AlexanderTT> ther is no story, nobody is covering it on the news because they are supposed to keep shut

[16:34] <AlexanderTT> they are trying to lower our numbers before the actual fighting begins

[16:34] <Florida_Jim> Well, if you tell me where the camps are, I can take a video camera and post it on the internet.

[16:35] <H1t|M4n> There are a couple of things you brought up that i think is good AlexanderTT,one is that ppl work more together in your world time and another thing is that,cause is all but gone.The only thing that still kinda bothers me is that other countries are still having problems,hopefully it can be fixed and it won't spill over to america like in this era .

[16:35] <AlexanderTT> the camps arent being used yet, the people are going where I don;t even know

[16:36] <AlexanderTT> but if someone knows it would be like gold in my report

[16:36] <Florida_Jim> Did you ever speak with John Titor after he returned from our time?

[16:36] <H1t|M4n> But right now as we speak the box cars are being built huh AlexanderTT.Interesting .

[16:36] <AlexanderTT> yes that's when he told me that name

[16:37] <AlexanderTT> yes right now, in normandy i think

[16:37] <Florida_Jim> Oh, not before he left for our time?

[16:37] <Pyro2000> hello Alex

[16:37] <AlexanderTT> i knew him before

[16:37] * Pyro2000 HI EVERYONE

[16:37] <AlexanderTT> hello pyro

[16:37] <Cyberbomb> hey pyro =D

[16:37] <H1t|M4n> Hello again Pyro2000

[16:38] <AlexanderTT> i think it was 107 thoussnd train cars al together

[16:39] <Florida_Jim> I had heard somewhere else (not from a time traveler) that the U.S. government was building these box cars.

[16:39] <AlexanderTT> yes they are and I think they each can hold lik 104 prisoners

[16:39] <Florida_Jim> Somebody got freaked out by the fact they were designed for humans and leaked it.

[16:40] <Cyberbomb> do the train cars look like the one in the picture at the bottom of the link?? http://www.geocities.com/theawakeningnews/...son_Trains.html

[16:40] <AlexanderTT> what will make you frak out is knowing what happens to those put on them

[16:40] <Florida_Jim> Gas?

[16:40] <Pyro2000> Cyber where did you find that

[16:41] <Cyberbomb> the internet pyro, theres alot of information on there

[16:41] <AlexanderTT> thats them

[16:41] <AlexanderTT> no not gas, they starve to d****

[16:42] <AlexanderTT> the government doesnt want to waste money on bullets so they just let them go without water or food until they d**

[16:42] <Florida_Jim> Did you ever meet someone who escaped from a train?

[16:42] <AlexanderTT> no

[16:42] <Florida_Jim> Damn.

[16:42] <Florida_Jim> Sorry.

[16:42] <Florida_Jim> That would have been useful info.

[16:43] <AlexanderTT> we never met anyone who escaped anywhere the government took them

[16:43] <Florida_Jim> So, besides nuking their strongholds, what's their weakness?

[16:43] <AlexanderTT> unfortunately I think ther was no escaping, or maybe they starved to d**** before they could find the resistance members

[16:44] <AlexanderTT> there very dumb

[16:44] <Florida_Jim> Somethings never change. haa haa haa

[16:44] <Pyro2000> haha

[16:44] <AlexanderTT> soldiers follow orders , we knew those orders and they were very predictable

[16:45] <Florida_Jim> Is there a "Hitler" of this war from your historical perspective?

[16:46] <AlexanderTT> one day I remember clearly was right after we had gotten a hold of some anti-aircrat equipment, we then on purpose gathered around them , seeing our numbers were large they came in for an air strike, it was raining jets that day

[16:46] <AlexanderTT> the democratic/independent president after bush

[16:47] <Florida_Jim> So, if we guarantee he never gets elected, I wonder how things might be different?

[16:47] <Pyro2000> What if he didn't get elected and a worse president came along?

[16:47] <AlexanderTT> someone will take his place, nature will correct itself

[16:48] <Florida_Jim> Sounds like predeterminism.

[16:48] <Pyro2000> Ah

[16:48] <AlexanderTT> what if that someone worse launches against russia first with full nuke strength

[16:49] <AlexanderTT> you would be amazed at the number of traps you can make in the woods that are very deadly

[16:49] <AlexanderTT> also snipers can take out tanks

[16:50] <AlexanderTT> if they shot just right down the main cannon barrel

[16:50] <Florida_Jim> I'd hate to be that sniper if I missed the sweet spot!

[16:51] <AlexanderTT> well the tanks were busy we other target, but your right, to a cetain extent the barrel must be aimed at you

[16:52] <AlexanderTT> we discovered amazingly simple ways to take down large units, I guess thats how our founding fathers were in the revolutionary war

[16:52] <Florida_Jim> So, where was the United Nations during all of this? Still floundering in ineptitude I guess.

[16:53] <AlexanderTT> it was removed by the US government

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[16:53] <AlexanderTT> later on of course

[16:53] <cerial> evening folks

[16:53] <H1t|M4n> wb cerial

[16:54] <cerial> hey mate and thanks:)

[16:54] <AlexanderTT> but the UN did nothing for or against us, they were going to leave us to fight it out, which makes sense because the US military is there Military

[16:54] * cerial waves to ya'all

[16:54] <Pyro2000> CERIAL!!

[16:54] <cerial> hey Pyro

[16:54] <Pyro2000>

[16:55] <cerial> and alex .. hope u are well

[16:55] <AlexanderTT> im good , how are you cerial

[16:55] <Florida_Jim> No wonder the government thought they could control it all, they have history to prove they are right.

[16:55] <cerial> good .. jus back from a funeral .. so i'm a bit hungover !

[16:56] <AlexanderTT> they did not count on so many military units defecting to our side, without that help we would have lost very quickly

[16:56] <AlexanderTT> im sorry cerial

[16:56] <Florida_Jim> I can imagine.

[16:56] <cerial> ta mate ... but shes at peace now

[16:56] <AlexanderTT> they could of k***ed us but never the idea of freedom

[16:57] <cerial> so i'm happy

[16:57] <AlexanderTT> just remember her and you will see her again one day cerial

[16:58] <cerial> of course

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[16:58] <cerial> and of course shes alive and well in another world

[16:58] <Florida_Jim> My son sees the dead all the time. He's convinced nobody really dies, they just transform.

[16:59] <AlexanderTT> I wrestle with myself day after day, thinking that maybe I should stay and you all fight this war that your about to be in, i wonder if john felt the same

[16:59] <cerial> my thoughts exactly

[16:59] <AlexanderTT> and help you*

[16:59] <Payton2152001> alex...you've done more than your share to help us

[16:59] <Florida_Jim> We appreciate the offer.
 

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