Bush Did Not Win the Election?

sosuemetoo

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I wanted to post this article, and in the next post I'll go back in the thread and post the TT predictions.

Link:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=..._vote&printer=1

WASHINGTON - A small group of Democrats agreed Thursday to force House and Senate debates on Election Day problems in Ohio before letting Congress certify President Bush's win over Sen. John Kerry in November.

While Bush's victory is not in jeopardy, the Democratic challenge will force Congress to interrupt tallying the Electoral College vote, which had been scheduled to begin at 1 p.m. EST Thursday. It would be only the second time since 1877 that the House and Senate were forced into separate meetings to consider electoral votes.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., signed a challenge mounted by House Democrats to Ohio's 20 electoral votes, which put Bush over the top. By law, a protest signed by members of the House and Senate requires both chambers to meet separately for up to two hours to consider it. Lawmakers are allowed to speak for no more than five minutes each.
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The action seems certain to leave Bush's victory intact because both Republican-controlled chambers would have to uphold the objection for Ohio's votes to be invalidated. But supporters of the drive hope their move will shine a national spotlight on the Ohio voting problems.
 

sosuemetoo

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[18:20] <AlexanderTT> bush, but it will be debated and cause un-rest, also this will show the flaw in the electorial college

<maxwell1> in my case yes.
<Thelper> curious that his time doesnt know of UFO's
<maxwell1> I came here to watch the events of this election, and if I choose stay to watch the civil war erupt.
<Florida_Jim> So the hacking of the voting machines is the kickoff eh?
<Titanium_Dragon> Hacking?
<maxwell1> There are such accusations.
 

CaryP

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I've been following this development Sosue. The Senate Democrats didn't have the gumption to sign off on the objection in the 2000 election despite numerious objections filed by members of the House. Now they have at least one, Barbara Boxer. Okay, I don't like Boxer because of her socialist, left wing views, but I got to give her an A for effort. As your article says, the Republican controlled congress will confirm the electoral college after the required debate. I've read that there may be other Democratic Senators who'll sign off on Conyers objection, but they were waiting til the last minute so they wouldn't be pressured against it.

What's freaking me out is the TT chat logs. Freaky big time. Let's see if anymore of these boys score a direct hit on their claims. Thanks for the post, especially the chat logs.

Cary
 

sosuemetoo

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Originally posted by CaryP@Jan 6 2005, 11:14 AM
What's freaking me out is the TT chat logs. Freaky big time. Let's see if anymore of these boys score a direct hit on their claims. Thanks for the post, especially the chat logs.

Cary

I have some time this afternoon. I'll go back to our TTF Library and do another search. Someone mentioned that one of the tt'er constantly misspelled the word Electoral (the word I used to search for these excerpts). I will also run over to our friends at TTP and do a search of their logs.
 

CaryP

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Saw this and thought it might be interesting. Won't change jack diddley, but at least of few of the liberal left are making a soap box stand. Maybe it'll be good sound bites later. It's okay for the liberals to protest now, when it won't make a difference, but it might look good on their resume one day.

Cary

Five Senators and Eight House Members to Challenge Election
By David Swanson, ILCA

Four Senators Join Boxer, Seven House Members Join Conyers

Senator Barbara Boxer was the first, and Kim Gandy of the National Organization of Women announced it at a rally in Lafayette Square Park Thursday morning, across from the White House. Senator Boxer would be joining Congressman John Conyers and other House Members in challenging the electoral votes from Ohio in a joint session of Congress called to certify the election.

Nearl two hours later, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, Sr., took the stage -- the final speaker before the crowd of about 300 activists in orange clothes (as worn in the Ukraine) headed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol. Jackson told the crowd - to shouts and cheers, and in some cases tears - that Boxer would be joined by Senators Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Barak Obama. From the House, Jackson said, Congressman John Conyers would challenge the Ohio vote, with the support of Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Dennis Kucinich, Jesse Jackson Jr., Maxine Waters (who also spoke at the morning rally), Robert Scott, Mel Watt, and Jerrold Nadler.

Senator John Kerry, Jackson said, was in Baghdad. \"And we need him here in Washington today. Those who cannot lead today cannot lead in 2006 or 2008. This is the moment of truth!\" Jackson spoke, as many of the speakers did, of building a coalition of blacks and progressives. The cheers cannot have been missed inside the walls of the White House.

P. S. Forgot to mention. I ain't no fan of most of these senators, especially Clinton and Boxer. Jesse Jackson IMO is nothing but a scam artist and "green" mailer of US corporations. Barak Obama is the only one I have a positive assessment of. I don't hold any of the House members in all that high regard either. At least Kucinich comes across as sincere, if not a bit feeble, but that's about it.
 

dancho

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Originally posted by phase12@Dec 27 2004, 06:00 PM

There are good things about the internet, but then again there are things like this. Pure paranoid nonsense.

The 85% of the mass news media from the far left has tried to come up with anything and everything regarding Mr. Bush, but ultimately could not. Yet, people are supposed to go by insane theories and falsified \"evidence\" that's being copied and pasted around the net by people that simply disagree with his positions, and frankly tend to be extremists.



This is what really depresses me. Absolute, deliberate blindness. You sound like a german in 1938 apologizing for Hitler and that's a fact. This isn't funny any more. I try to be "reasonable" and I just...

There's a hard rain gonna fall.
 

CaryP

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Originally posted by Unintentional@Jan 8 2005, 12:40 AM
If all these election laws were broken in Ohio, why has no one been charged or arrested?

ROTFLMAO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

You're kidding, right? You think the people behind this are gonna leave a trail of bread crumbs to their door? Most of the "rigging" of the election happened with the electronic voting machines. No paper trails. Read up on the two companies that control most of the voting machines in this country. It wasn't just Ohio that had "voting irregularities." Several of the "swing" states had numerous irregularities.

Oh, God, that was hilarious at first. I thought you were being funny. Keep 'em coming Unintentional, you cracked me up with that one.

Cary
 

Darkwolf

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Cary, Dansho.

You guys seem to be taking it as holy writ that Bush is bad. While I tend to agree with you, Consider the possibility that the vast conspiricy runs the other way, and he is a perfectly good president with alot of people throwing BS at him in hopes that some of it sticks.
My guess would be that some of it is true, and some of it is not. Mabey he did cheat in the election, and mabey he really did win. Mabey both sides cheated, who knows. Barring a major revelation in the next few weeks, we'll never really know.
 

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Surely the road to hell is paved by good and bad presidents alike,
I just wish I had a piece of the handbasket concession.
Reminds me of what Father Guido Toth Novello used to say:
Lean to the Left
Lean to the Right
Stand up, Sit down
Fight, Fight, Fight
 

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