HDRKid

[HDRKID]

HDRKid

Hi Kevin:

In the future the liar-crooks known as tele-evangelists do not exist. Religion changes a lot. People of different religions all work together.

Let me explain, in the 1700's if I had told plantation owners that slaves would one day be presidents of companies and great leaders they would have laughed at me. Yet many of these plantation owners were "Christians" but they did not care about their fellow man, only about themselves.

The south paid dearly in the civil war. It was destroyed and many plantations were burned. The slaves got their freedom, and still remember the injustices of the past. As a result the US was never what it could have been.

What we have now with US companies putting factories in Thailand and paying children 75 cents an hours is similar to the 1800's. Eventually the bad karma will hurt the US.

Many ideas from eastern religions are correct. We are all one. And when we hurt our brothers we hurt ourselves. WWIII comes about as a consequence of the US plundering the resources of other nations and attempting to control them.

Lot at the facts, Russia never nuked another country. It did not have slaves. Or have a genocide program like what we did to Native Americans. And yet the US is the "FREE" world.

By using time travel you can see mistakes before they are made. If George Washington had given freedom to all the slaves. He would now be remembered as a great man who fought for freedom, not as a wealthy plantation owner.



Hi Ralan:

you said yourself you are putting others at risk. How do you justify that?

Because the rewards outweigh the risk. People need to know that the future is not a glorious lush paradise, but a dry dystopian desert. The decisions we make now will determine if WWIII happens.

I have seen an ocean with no life in it. Skeletons of once great cities standing in the middle of a desert. People who do not look like people anymore.

If you had done any astral time travel to the future, you would know what the future looks like, and you would not be asking me that question.

You think astral travel is dreaming?
What will you do when the things that I have predicted start to happen?

It does not take a time traveller to see what I have seen. Most people using common sense will realize that the planet is dying. And yet seeing it makes it that more real.

People ask me about new technologies in the future. Try this on for size. Better portable air filters so that people can breathe in the polluted air. Underground cities because the ozone layer is gone. cheap spacesuits so children can play outside in the germ filled air.

My goal is to warn people that we cannot continue to dump waste into the ocean.
If the ocean dies we all die.

 

[The_Ruffneck]

HDRKid

Kid , it is my opinion if you go into astral travel with the negative mindset you have shown here (and what other astral travellers have shown in my opinion) then you are going to encounter negative timelines in the future.

Sure the world we live in now is pretty screwed but if you and i were never born it would still be like this , we just have to live with it and make concessions for things that may or may not happen in the future

 

[HDRKID]

HDRKid

Hi Ruffneck:

Kid , it is my opinion if you go into astral travel with the negative mindset you have shown here (and what other astral travellers have shown in my opinion) then you are going to encounter negative timelines in the future.

I agree, we often see what we want to see. However, I have seen timelines where the was no WWI,II, or III. People got along much better than here. Less emphasis on getting rich quick, more on helping others.

Our timeline is characterized by {rich against poor, young against old, white against black, etc} There is much pain and strife here. Alternate timelines that are successful are characterized by people all working together.

We can still change the future, I have hope.


Hi Frog:

I thinks it's sweet that your brother is a movie star in a major motion picture. And the movie has a time machine in it that looks like an HDR. Maybe he can post in this little forum what he thinks about time travel.

Good luck to your brother in his career as an actor, he has talent.

 

[Stevo8089]

HDRKid

Wouldn't the world be grossly over populated without any of the world wars? HDRKID would it be possible for you to make several short time jumps into the near future (Oct/Nov/Dec 2004) to a timeline with very low divergence and give us a few predictions? I'm sure it would turn everyone in to a believer if they were all fairly accurate.

 

[StarLord]

HDRKid

Kid, as you stated a reference to "bad Karma", you supposedly believe in Karma or were you just giving lip service to a spiritual concept to seem Aware?

As Jesus is quite busy else where and no more the saviour to mankind than you and I nor is Jesus any more God than you or I. You have proven that that you are a very Spiritually confused individual. Traveling in the "Astral" as you claim to have done so, you would have picked up information regarding Jesus. Though a Very great Soul, Jesus no more died for any persons sins than you have. Jesus is not interested in saving you from you own foolishness, nor is he responsible for any persons karma. We pay that price ourselves. It is a very well known fact that no one can pay the karma of another soul on the higher planes.

When I suggested that you pray to God, it was not for help in your "travels" what ever they may be, it was for help in being responsible for the folks that are actually believing what you claim. As you are not a Master, you cannot possibly help those that you misguide, thus you will be responsible in a way you OBVIOUSLY have no clue of.

You have just Debunked yourself in the greatest way possible.

Had you actually been doing what you claim to, you would have this knowledge, as it is pretty much general knowledge on the higher planes.

Your claims are false. You have no proof except what you claim to have. As such, this is no proof. I am sure that in your own world, of yourself, you are doing something. You have proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is not what you claim it to be. Your experiences are valid to none other than your self as we are ALL Different Spiritually, thus that guarantees we will experience everything differently.

If I were you, I would find a Master on the inner Planes, YESTERDAY, to explain even a rudimentary foundation of travel to other places. As you are so familiar with the goings on there, you obviously know how to go about proving to your self that they are indeed a Master.

You have proven to me that you are not a source for information to be trusted. You have neglected to consider even the smallest of basics regarding this.

Here is a truth so Universal that it has even made it's way to the Martial Arts area.
"A Empty Vessel Makes The Most Noise" Shake a bottle a quarter full of liquid and listen. Then go fill that same Vessel and then shake it again. Which one makes the most noise?

 

[Frog186]

HDRKid

Hdrkid
Hi kid it's frog once again thanks for telling about my brother and his career and thanks for the compliment too I have three questions for you by the way I will not be able to get the hdr I just don't want to spend alot of money for it so sorry about that I wanted to share some experiences with you and the others on this forum but it is my decision and it is a very good one but just to let you know I am getting my time travel book and I ordered a gemstone pendant so I will be getting those two items this week or in a couple of weeks in the mail well here are my questions:

1. In the near or further future is the government good or evil against civilians or the public?

2. What kind of jobs in the past and future can you get and how much money can you earn too?

3. Are girls in the past pretty or are girls in the future pretty?

thanks for listening and thanks for your time and patience and thanks for replying back to me and thanks for your experiences and so much more I will be busy today so I will talk with you later!

 

[HDRKID]

HDRKid

Hi Stevo8089:

That is true, there is overpopulation on timelines where we did not have WWI, WWII, and WWIII. Much effort is being made to conserve energy on these lines since they hit peak oil earlier than we did. Good point.

I will try again Tuesday to do a jump to a low percent divergence timeline where hopefully we can see the result of the election using Steven Gibbs HDR.
Today was the morning of the full moon.


Hi Starlord:

Such negativity - most unfortunate. Have you not heard? "What we sow, the same we shall reap." That is Karma straight from the mouth of Jesus whom you hate.

The reason that I pray to Jesus is that when I exit my body during an astral travel, there is a chance that the vacant body can be possessed by a demon or evil spirit.

Some people burn sage to purify the air, or do other rituals. I ask God for help.

Trust me, astral travel without help is like swimming without a shark cage.


Hi Frog:


1. In the near or further future is the government good or evil against civilians or the public?

There is a military government in the AFE. John Titor talked about this, also about the CWII. It starts small the rebellion but quickly grows. Eventually the whole world goes up in flames.

Our timeline will soon resemble the NIXON DICTATOR line.

Nixon dictator timeline.
Richard "I am not a crook" Nixon was one of the worst crooks in history,
but on an alternate timeline he was also a dictator.


Here is what happened. George Wallace, a southern racist, was very popular in the states Nixon badly needed, such as Alabama, Georgia, Miss, and Florida.

Nixon realized that Nixon/Rockerfeller had 41% of the popular vote, McGovern/Muskie had 42% of the popular vote, and Wallace/Carter had 17% of the popular vote. Some Nixon states such as Indiana were now drifting toward Wallace.

In a panic Nixon authorized to the Department of Internal Security (their CIA) to "evaporate" Gov Wallace. But alas, the triggerman, a life long racist, missed on purpose and allowed himself to be captured. The truth came out, Nixon declared martial law and ordered a "shoot on sight" against protesters.

In this alternate timeline Circa 2005, most cars look like boxy old 1970's clunkers and are still MADE IN USA, or rather UA.

Canada was annexed in the late 1980's and it was forced to supply most of UA's oil needs from its tar sands. Red China and the Soviet Union are still buddies trying to sell a new and improved form of socialism.

There is a huge wall dividing United America from Mexico to keep Am's from escaping to freedom.


2. What kind of jobs in the past and future can you get and how much money can you earn too?

After the war, there is a labor shortage so getting a job is not that hard. The problem is in the years between 2010-2015. I do not know what happens then, but it seems like few people make it.

Jobs in future, {Robot Repairman, yes man, future is not PC, Teleporter Operator, Genetic Engineer, Clone Lab Tech, Flying Chariot Mechanic, Oxygen Vendor, etc.}

For a clone lab tech in 2150 you get about 3 ounces of gold per day ($1500/day), versus a robot repairman (easy job) gets only like 1 ounce of gold per day($500/day).

Jobs in past {Potter, Butcher, Blacksmith, Carpenter, Maid, Nurse, etc.} :blush:

A Model-T-Ford Mechanic in 1920 made about two dollars per day in 1920 dollars, Gold back then was about $20 an ounce. So you got back then about 1/10 of an ounce of gold or about ($50/day) in modern money. Not a lot of money, but houses and food back then were real cheap.

A woman school teacher would make $800 a year in 1920 (Starting Salary)
That is about 40 ounces of gold or (40X500) = $20,000, but remember that she did not work in the three summer months.


3. Are girls in the past pretty or are girls in the future pretty?

Very pretty in the far future due to genetic engineering. The clone girls are real hotties, but they only live four years. They are real fast too. Girls in the past were pretty, but nothing happened until after you were married. :lol:

 

[Frog186]

HDRKid

Hdrkid
thanks for your reply back to me I have two more questions for you and then I have stuff to do in the meantime here are my questions and sorry for all of the questions but I will try my best in narrowing them down next time and thanks for listening:

1. What is the difference between dimensional and interdimensional travel or time travel?

2. Is the near or further future better because it is high tech or Is the past better because it is low tech?

well if you can answer these two questions that be a very big help to me and if you have some sparetime would you be able to make a movie or take a picture of the other timelines or parallel universes? well I will talk with you later on and thanks for the advice and information! oh by the way I need a favor would you be able to make a jump to the 1980's I just want you to tell us about the past and cheesy clothing people wore during that time!

 

[Ralan]

HDRKid

Have you noticed HDR that everyone on this thread except for Frog is trying to point out to you that the game is up; that your hoax was bad is my opinion, but that the end of it was bad is clear for all to see. The 'Chronohistorian' tactic of ignoring your own debunking and prancing gaily on is not the beneficial thing to do when you know your time is up; you admit defeat, and retain your honour. There is no honour in this childish reaction.

Because the rewards outweigh the risk. People need to know that the future is not a glorious lush paradise, but a dry dystopian desert. The decisions we make now will determine if WWIII happens.

Ironically, it was in truth a man like you responsible for the last Great War. He decided that the 'rewards' outweighed the risks, and thought himself a hero, much as you appear to, for causing such a great and terrible magnitude of suffering and death without ever pausing to find out if the rest of the world actually agreed with him or not.

There are five or six people posting here. Only one, maybe two of them considers your claims of 'astral time travelling' to be of any import; the simple truth is that the 'astral realm' is entirely your own world. You create the events around you on the astral plane; the fact that you are not aware of this is a danger in itself.

I have seen an ocean with no life in it. Skeletons of once great cities standing in the middle of a desert. People who do not look like people anymore.

If you had done any astral time travel to the future, you would know what the future looks like, and you would not be asking me that question.

If I had done any 'astral time travel' to the future, I would know that anything I saw was my own imagination and almost certainly not decide it meant I should try to save the world by drawing the whole ordeal out into a superficially long thread on an internet forum.

You think astral travel is dreaming?
What will you do when the things that I have predicted start to happen?

a) Any predictions you have made for my lifetime are fairly obvious easy guesses that most people would come up with in a few minutes.

B) Most of your predictions are set long past my lifetime and I can therefore never prove that they will not happen; how handy for you. These tend to be somewhat wilder.

It does not take a time traveller to see what I have seen. Most people using common sense will realize that the planet is dying. And yet seeing it makes it that more real.

How nice of you to help with your own debunking.

People ask me about new technologies in the future. Try this on for size. Better portable air filters so that people can breathe in the polluted air. Underground cities because the ozone layer is gone. cheap spacesuits so children can play outside in the germ filled air.

My goal is to warn people that we cannot continue to dump waste into the ocean.
If the ocean dies we all die.

Thanks for the fiction, but I never ask you about new technologies in the future because apart from contemporary research you don't know a thing about it. So why tell me about them?

The goal is good; the means are very wrong. There is no need for these lies to get your message out to people.

 

[StarLord]

HDRKid

KID,

Indeed, you are mistaken. How you arrived at the point that I hate that Great Soul Jesus is beyond even you it seems. I have great respect for a Soul such as he is.

How you arrived at a negative point regarding the reality of Jesus not being God but in truth a Great Soul, but no more than God than you or I, which again I point out is GENERAL KNOWLEDGE IN THE ASTRAL and again which proves you are sadly ignorant of even the basics on the Astral Realm. Again which sadly points out that if you do not even know this, why would someone want to listen to your ramblings?

I am glad you acknowledge the fact that you believe in Karma and can quote homilies regarding the same. The question which both myself and RALAN have brought to your face, which you always dodge with nonsense and indirection is are you going to be responsible for the people you mislead?

This is not Rocket Science duder, it's plain fact. Pointing out that you are ignorant about general knowledge in a certain area is not negative, it is plain simple fact.


Let's say that instead of your claim to this 'travel' You instead have claimed that you are a race car driver. No problem. And Then, you go on to say that you pray to Richard Petty to protect you when you drive. It is common knowledge HERE on the Physical Plane, that praying to Richard Petty before you race won't do diddly squat for you except make you happy.

This is EXACTLY the same thing you have claimed when you stated that you prayed to Jesus. Jesus could care less about what you do, nor will you 'faith' change the fact that it is not his job to watch you or protect you. Your belief system was started by the Church some 2000 years ago. In case you have forgotten due to your haste in fabricating these stories, Jesus or Yeshua was Jewish, spent some 16 years in Tibet being trained by Spiritual Masters before he came back to share that knowledge. He had absolutely nothing to do with the formation of the Catholic church. Read up on the Vatican Congress in the years 200, 400 and when Constatine was both Emperor and the pope. Had you taken the time to do your own research rather than blindly accept information, you would find that it is not just me that knows this. Search in the right places, and you will find three, 3, different spiritual paths that point out that Jesus just like Mohammed, is a messenger but NOT GOD. No more God than you or I.

Again, had you traveled to where you claim to be traveling, and talked to souls there, it is Common Knowledge on the Astral Plane that Jesus is not God. Your belief system will not change that fact. How could you possibly construe that this information which you are not aware of, is negative? That is the typical response of a person that does not want to learn.

If you had no eyes and I said that you could not see, would that be negative when I am simply pointing out a obvious fact?

Someone points out that your algebra expression is flawed, thus in error, would you claim that they are being negative to you?????

If you pray to Pythagoras when you solve geometric problems, and someone points out that your belief system is flawed and that Pythagoras is busy doing something else, thus not responsible for your geometry errors, are they being negative?

Back to the issue. You have debunked your self and your information in the grandest of ways. You have shown your ignorance in the worst of ways.
If someone pointed out that you were lacking in knowledge, would that be negative?

Your machine is a Placebo, it does nothing except make you feel that you can do what comes naturally, better. Bringing the fact that you are NOT a Spiritual Master and could not POSSIBLY help others if they get into trouble, to your face and in no uncertain terms, is hardly negative. It is a simple fact. I note that rather than face the truth, you choose to use subterfuge and try to misdirect.