I can't agree with you on all of that seeing as John himself said how can you prove someone is a time traveler? While i don't think there's anything he can say to prove he is a time travels but, i do believe he should be able to speak to Pam with some type of proof or reveal continues amount of knowledge. John was believed because he talked for a long amount of time and, was continues with the information he revealed.
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I can't agree with you on all of that seeing as John himself said how can you prove someone is a time traveler? While i don't think there's anything he can say to prove he is a time travels but, i do believe he should be able to speak to Pam with some type of proof or reveal continues amount of knowledge. John was believed because he talked for a long amount of time and, was continues with the information he revealed.
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What kind of information are you supposed to gather to prove John changed our Timeline? That's a very broad request. You must have been given very specific information for such a task. Can you please be specific?
If you are truly seeking this information, there are some of us 'experts' who could help you with the answers...if you are who you claim to be.
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Oh, but John gave very good information, really excellent stuff. Most people didn't take the time to study it, or they just didn't want to believe. I know, because I've done extensive research on John and his posts.
If this gentleman is who he claims to be, I'm sure he could give us enough info to support his claims, similar to what John did.
Yes, I agree with you completely on that but, remember we can never be 100% correct due to the butterfly effect. The fact that he is here on our world line means that he has changed it and, like john there is a chance that his predication will be wrong. Although if he just went from there to here there shouldn't be any real change.
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I'm not looking for 100%. I'm looking for a reasonable amount of information to support claims that he is who he claims to be.
Personally, if he was sent here to study the changes that John made on our Timeline, that is something I would be very interested in, because of the research that I have done over the years. But I won't believe such a claim without some solid evidence to back it up...which is what John provided. After a decade of liars pretending to be John or related to him, only a fool would believe someone without some kind of proof.
Personally, if he was sent here to study the changes that John made on our Timeline, that is something I would be very interested in, because of the research that I have done over the years. But I won't believe such a claim without some solid evidence to back it up...which is what John provided. After a decade of liars pretending to be John or related to him, only a fool would believe someone without some kind of proof.
It says he is online right now so we should be seeing a answer to our many questions.
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T.E.R2021, when you return would you please help us out here with some kind of validation? Information, photos of your advanced Time Machine (John posted photos), or anything you can think of, etc.
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T.E.R2021: I'm very interested in John Titor. On that basis, after re-reading your comments, I'm willing to participate in conversation on the basis that you are from John's Timeline. If you truly are a Time traveler, then please know my doubtfulness results from the deterioration of society today.
Now about your search for information. Something John did in 1975 changed the outcome of Y2K. John told his grandfather about the upcoming disasters of Y2K so that he could get the IBM 5100. But the only way his grandfather would give him the computer was if he agreed to visit 1998 and forewarn his parents on this Timeline.
I was very involved in helping to avert Y2K in my community in Northern California. I co-created a Y2K Task Force and worked from 1998-2000 with others to avert the problem.
I can only guess what John did to change the outcome of Y2K. My guess is him passing the knowledge of the problem to his grandfather, led his grandfather to pass that information onto other IBM Engineers that he worked with. As we got closer to the year 2000, the Engineers spoke out about the problem and eventually got the attention of the news and experts. That's how the problem was addressed and fixed in the years leading up to 2000.
When the Y2K disasters didn't happen on our Timeline, it left people here with a more secure feeling about life in general, and also with the idea that chicken little had yelled 'the sky is falling'. Most people who weren't involved in solving the Y2K problem thought it was all hype when nothing happened at the 2000 roll over, but that wasn't the case at all. It was a matter that teams of experts and concerned people fixed the problem and averted disaster.
This in turn made people more apathetic and lazy towards other big problems, especially political ones. Folks on our Timeline got very lazy and materialistic, only caring about their own personal selfish needs, neglecting the important political issues in the process. Bush stole the Elections in 2000 and 2004 and most people did nothing. The few who tried to fight it in court were powerless.
After 911 happened, it was easy to strip away our Constitutional Rights with the Patriot Act, the wars based on lies, etc., etc, etc. I bitched about everything, but nobody listened. Now, finally, things are so bad, i.e., no jobs, millions of foreclosured homes, sky-high gas prices, etc, that the Sheeple are finally forced to wake up...Hence, we now have the 'Occupy Movement' in force. How long it will last, or whether it will develop into a U.S. Civil War is yet to be seen. But these are the first indications that there might be a Civil War. I for one hope so, as the USA has become what I believe is the most corrupt nation in the world...because the gov't pretends to be for the people, but lies to the people about EVERYTHING.
About John Titor...It is my belief, if he had not visited here, we would have felt the disaster from Y2K, and the loss of life and other things would have changed the character of the nation...so that when Bush stole the 2000/2004 Elections, there would have been an uprising and the Civil War would have begun. That's what I personally believe, but John changed our Timeline.
What we are left with is leading our country into a New World Order with a Nazi-type regime. The masses are brainwashed, manipulated and controlled through Media propaganda, violence and pornographic movies, moronic reality shows, and bombarded with celebrity gossip and entertainment, detracting from the real news. The Sheeple have awakened too late, and are powerless against the government.
Now perhaps you can see why I want some evidence from you to validate who you are. I'll wait to hear your reply before posting any more on this subject.
P.S. I have done extensive research on John Titor. I was a journalist and am a researcher of many contraversial subjects, everything from politics, alien abductions, prophecy, etc. If you are genuine, I'm very interested in conversing with you about what happened with John Titor.
Now about your search for information. Something John did in 1975 changed the outcome of Y2K. John told his grandfather about the upcoming disasters of Y2K so that he could get the IBM 5100. But the only way his grandfather would give him the computer was if he agreed to visit 1998 and forewarn his parents on this Timeline.
I was very involved in helping to avert Y2K in my community in Northern California. I co-created a Y2K Task Force and worked from 1998-2000 with others to avert the problem.
I can only guess what John did to change the outcome of Y2K. My guess is him passing the knowledge of the problem to his grandfather, led his grandfather to pass that information onto other IBM Engineers that he worked with. As we got closer to the year 2000, the Engineers spoke out about the problem and eventually got the attention of the news and experts. That's how the problem was addressed and fixed in the years leading up to 2000.
When the Y2K disasters didn't happen on our Timeline, it left people here with a more secure feeling about life in general, and also with the idea that chicken little had yelled 'the sky is falling'. Most people who weren't involved in solving the Y2K problem thought it was all hype when nothing happened at the 2000 roll over, but that wasn't the case at all. It was a matter that teams of experts and concerned people fixed the problem and averted disaster.
This in turn made people more apathetic and lazy towards other big problems, especially political ones. Folks on our Timeline got very lazy and materialistic, only caring about their own personal selfish needs, neglecting the important political issues in the process. Bush stole the Elections in 2000 and 2004 and most people did nothing. The few who tried to fight it in court were powerless.
After 911 happened, it was easy to strip away our Constitutional Rights with the Patriot Act, the wars based on lies, etc., etc, etc. I bitched about everything, but nobody listened. Now, finally, things are so bad, i.e., no jobs, millions of foreclosured homes, sky-high gas prices, etc, that the Sheeple are finally forced to wake up...Hence, we now have the 'Occupy Movement' in force. How long it will last, or whether it will develop into a U.S. Civil War is yet to be seen. But these are the first indications that there might be a Civil War. I for one hope so, as the USA has become what I believe is the most corrupt nation in the world...because the gov't pretends to be for the people, but lies to the people about EVERYTHING.
About John Titor...It is my belief, if he had not visited here, we would have felt the disaster from Y2K, and the loss of life and other things would have changed the character of the nation...so that when Bush stole the 2000/2004 Elections, there would have been an uprising and the Civil War would have begun. That's what I personally believe, but John changed our Timeline.
What we are left with is leading our country into a New World Order with a Nazi-type regime. The masses are brainwashed, manipulated and controlled through Media propaganda, violence and pornographic movies, moronic reality shows, and bombarded with celebrity gossip and entertainment, detracting from the real news. The Sheeple have awakened too late, and are powerless against the government.
Now perhaps you can see why I want some evidence from you to validate who you are. I'll wait to hear your reply before posting any more on this subject.
P.S. I have done extensive research on John Titor. I was a journalist and am a researcher of many contraversial subjects, everything from politics, alien abductions, prophecy, etc. If you are genuine, I'm very interested in conversing with you about what happened with John Titor.
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I very much suspect that T.E.R2021 and Kurisu are the same person. That is just an FYI for everyone else that will be talking with them/him/her/ whatever. I will not.
I don't understand how you could come to this conclusion please explain it to me. Rather then saying I suspect this or that give a real reason.