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Politicians are useless ,governments even more so , so I think "they" will skip the governments and focus on select individuals .
Should there be full alien disclosure?
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Politicians are useless ,governments even more so , so I think "they" will skip the governments and focus on select individuals .
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I remember Richard Dolan interviewing a retired CIA agent. R.D sitting on this whistle blower's side on the bed and the old man close to death with a bladder failure. His last moments
upon the planet Earth. And a secret to tell. Someone here must have watched this video. To me this old man having a close brush to death. Almost breathless. His record,his disclosure was more than satisfying to me. I do not know how deep the impact of his claiming may represent to you regarding DISCLOSURE. Among many there's no one more trustworthy than Richard Dolan. And I've never seen anything more compelling than the old retired CIA agent Disclosure.
upon the planet Earth. And a secret to tell. Someone here must have watched this video. To me this old man having a close brush to death. Almost breathless. His record,his disclosure was more than satisfying to me. I do not know how deep the impact of his claiming may represent to you regarding DISCLOSURE. Among many there's no one more trustworthy than Richard Dolan. And I've never seen anything more compelling than the old retired CIA agent Disclosure.
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Yes Carl, i think there was a you tube link on here showing the dying CIA agent you have mentioned
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Video testimony by an anonymous alleged former CIA official was shown at the Citizen Hearing on Disclosure at the National Press Club in Washington, DC on Friday, May 3.
UFO author and historian Richard Dolan interviewed “Anonymous” on March 5, 2013. Facing impending kidney failure, this individual felt compelled to disclose secret information he feels is too important to keep secret. In the video, he claims to have served in the U.S. Army, worked for the CIA, and worked on the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book–one of the USAF’s official studies of UFOs. And he refers to the project as “partially a fraud.” Asking for clarification, Dolan states, “You’re saying some of the Blue Book cases were completely fictitious?” The anonymous man responds, “Yes.”
“Anonymous” alleges that, after an invasion threat from President Dwight Eisenhower, he and his superior at the CIA were allowed inside the secretive Area 51 in Nevada to gather intel and report back to the president. There, “Anonymous” describes seeing several alien spacecraft, including the craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then, he and his superior were taken to the S-4 facility southwest of Area 51 where they observed live extraterrestrials.
Author and UFO researcher Peter Robbins, who served as a witness at the Citizen Hearing, saw the video testimony as it was presented. He posted his reaction on his Facebook account: “In my opinion, if it can be confirmed by any relevant supporting documentation, this moving and fascinating account does qualify as an authentic ‘death bed’ testimony from an individual who convincingly claims to have been a CIA officer deeply involved in the matter or crashed and/or recovered craft, and at one time a liaison between the Agency and the President (Truman).”
This testimony will be included in an upcoming documentary titled Truth Embargo.
UFO author and historian Richard Dolan interviewed “Anonymous” on March 5, 2013. Facing impending kidney failure, this individual felt compelled to disclose secret information he feels is too important to keep secret. In the video, he claims to have served in the U.S. Army, worked for the CIA, and worked on the U.S. Air Force’s Project Blue Book–one of the USAF’s official studies of UFOs. And he refers to the project as “partially a fraud.” Asking for clarification, Dolan states, “You’re saying some of the Blue Book cases were completely fictitious?” The anonymous man responds, “Yes.”
“Anonymous” alleges that, after an invasion threat from President Dwight Eisenhower, he and his superior at the CIA were allowed inside the secretive Area 51 in Nevada to gather intel and report back to the president. There, “Anonymous” describes seeing several alien spacecraft, including the craft that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico. Then, he and his superior were taken to the S-4 facility southwest of Area 51 where they observed live extraterrestrials.
Author and UFO researcher Peter Robbins, who served as a witness at the Citizen Hearing, saw the video testimony as it was presented. He posted his reaction on his Facebook account: “In my opinion, if it can be confirmed by any relevant supporting documentation, this moving and fascinating account does qualify as an authentic ‘death bed’ testimony from an individual who convincingly claims to have been a CIA officer deeply involved in the matter or crashed and/or recovered craft, and at one time a liaison between the Agency and the President (Truman).”
This testimony will be included in an upcoming documentary titled Truth Embargo.
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EMBARGO, The verb Embargar means= to prohibit, to impede, to falsify and to hide the truth in Portuguese language.
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Richard Dolan, May 3, 2013
I’ve often felt that disclosure on the matter of UFOs and possible ETs is a paradox. It is impossible, but it is inevitable.
Impossible because there is no political motivation for it. Period.
Inevitable, however, because our leaders are not the only factor in the equation. There are the other beings, after all. But mainly, there’s us. The People. Who are going through the greatest social, cultural, and especially technological transformation in the history of humanity. In fact, we are the game changers.
Someday, and it won’t be too long in the future, something is going to force someone’s hand. It could be a major sighting, a major leak, something. Something that can no longer be denied. After all, we are fast approaching what experts in artificial intelligence call the Singularity, when computing intelligence exceeds our own. In such a future, can we really think we will still be stuck in neutral on this issue?
Something will force the President’s hand. He or she will finally hold that long awaited press conference and make that bombshell understatement:
“I have been advised by the national Security Council, and heads of our intelligence community that there is a reality to some of the UFO phenomenon, in that some UFOs are real physical craft not manufactured by any known civilization on earth.”
Or, words to that effect. It’s the kind of statement that many proponents of UFO disclosure would like to hear, but the real question is, what next? Because there will be quite a few follow-up questions.
At the top of the list will be questions about who these other beings are and what their agenda might be. This will be a very difficult question for any President to answer. In the first place, there is a likelihood that even the leaders of the black budget/breakaway society that have been on top of this for years, they may not even know. Or at least not fully. And what if they do know? And, moreover, what if at least some of that answer includes information that might be deeply upsetting?
Divining the intentions of non-human visitors–or permanent residents–might not be the easiest thing to do, but it’s entirely possible, judging from the data we do have, that some of them don’t really care very much about humanity. Some may, some may not. What if an agenda has been determined within the intelligence community, and this agenda includes something to do with alleged abduction phenomena? And even if that isn’t true, does any President honestly believe he or she can contain rampant speculation along these lines?
Even if the intentions of these other beings are said to be neutral or positive, there will clearly be tremendous suspicion by large swaths of humanity. This will not be an easy sell. There will already be a sizable number of people predisposed to interpreting these other these beings as nothing less than demonic. Short of bringing one of these entities to a podium and subjecting it to hours and days and weeks of questions by an insatiable public, it is very likely that any moment of disclosure will not satisfy the public the way it would like to be regarding these alien motivations.
That’s only the beginning of the problems. One early and obvious question that will arise, one which will have deep, profound political implications, will be the very simple “how have you managed to keep this secret all these years?”
Consider that our entire society has been told that UFOs do not represent anything truly anomalous, that ET’s or aliens are definitely not here on Earth interacting with us, that UFO believers may be well-meaning but had been mistaken about all of that. This has been a mindset embedded within all of our major institutions. Our educational institutions from primary school through universities and postdoctoral levels. Throughout our major news organizations, in which an open belief in UFOs is a third rail for one’s career. Throughout our scientific establishment for sure, and also throughout our political structure.
Political careers have been destroyed, or at least severely undermined, by the UFO taint. Remember what happened to Dennis Kucinich in 2008 after it became known that many years before he had seen a UFO. Never mind the fact that the two witnesses he had been with came out and corroborated the sighting. They saw the same thing.
All of these institutions and others have treated the UFO topic as nothing more than a joke, something suitable for immature minds. Can it really be that professors throughout the United States uniformly have dismissed this phenomenon without any cooperation from the intelligence community? Ditto with the world of science, politics, and media? Well, no, not when the most modest amount of research shows strong intelligence community influence over all of those institutions.
In other words people will see very clearly that the national security apparatus has created a global culture that has suffocated the truth. Researchers will begin to investigate in a serious way just how these relationships have undermined the credibility of all of those institutions, and undermined our apprehension of truth.
The result will be a major cultural and institutional housecleaning. But it won’t stop there. Citizens will naturally want to know specifics about the structure of secrecy itself. That is, they will want to know, if the US president has been out of the loop all these years, as it seems, then who exactly has been in the loop? Who has been running the UFO cover-up?
If the answer is anything along the lines of my own research so far, it will show that the cover-up has long ago gravitated away from formal presidential authority into international and private hands. It’s not that the U.S. President is a non-player in all of this, but rather is more like the public face of the true power elite that stands behind. We all have come to understand this when it comes to power in general, and this will likely be the case when we begin a sophisticated analysis of UFO secrecy.
In other words, the moment of disclosure will trigger an intellectual revolution worldwide relating to the true structure of power on planet Earth. It will be a moment in which the world sees and acknowledges that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all.
The political fallout will be tremendous, and a great battle will develop within the first year of Disclosure. Think of it this way. Just because the president has been forced into making an announcement doesn’t mean that the CIA and all the other intelligence groups that had been managing this will simply walk away from the table. There has been a concerted effort spanning an entire human lifetime to control this topic. A great deal has been invested, and mere disclosure is not going to change that. The real issue in the immediate post-disclosure world will be: who controls the spin on the story?
Because right away there will be a great divide, a chasm. Once this topic is available for open discussion, you can be sure that people around the world will be demanding answers. You can be just as sure that on the other side of the fence, information will be handed out as sparingly as possible. Government spin doctors will be out in great numbers trying to control the situation according to national security policy, but this time independent UFO researchers may very well get a public hearing that they had never gotten before. If the official spokespersons are making misleading or false statements, it’s going to be much easier, post-disclosure, for independent researchers to point this out. Because this time, the world will be much more likely to listen. And there will be many, many more investigators into this topic after disclosure than there are today. How all that will turn out only time will tell.
There are so many other messy issues relating to global finance, energy, truth commissions, lawsuits, cultural transformations, cultural wars, religious/spiritual changes, scientific paradigm shifts, and ultimately geopolitical changes that will allow us to meet the challenge of “others” here on Planet Earth in some sort of coordinated, hopefully logical manner, and even more hopefully, in some way that answers to the people rather than a handful of elite human players.
For that, we will need a groundswell of public pressure from below, and tremendous political energy, ethics, and courage to take on the black budget culture that has dominated this subject for so long, and begin a long, hard fight to reclaim some measure of freedom and dignity for humanity while we begin a new, better, and more mature phase of our existence.
Thank you.
Google that- youtube Richard Dolan, UFO speech, best speech ever, Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, Rich Dolan , IMU
I’ve often felt that disclosure on the matter of UFOs and possible ETs is a paradox. It is impossible, but it is inevitable.
Impossible because there is no political motivation for it. Period.
Inevitable, however, because our leaders are not the only factor in the equation. There are the other beings, after all. But mainly, there’s us. The People. Who are going through the greatest social, cultural, and especially technological transformation in the history of humanity. In fact, we are the game changers.
Someday, and it won’t be too long in the future, something is going to force someone’s hand. It could be a major sighting, a major leak, something. Something that can no longer be denied. After all, we are fast approaching what experts in artificial intelligence call the Singularity, when computing intelligence exceeds our own. In such a future, can we really think we will still be stuck in neutral on this issue?
Something will force the President’s hand. He or she will finally hold that long awaited press conference and make that bombshell understatement:
“I have been advised by the national Security Council, and heads of our intelligence community that there is a reality to some of the UFO phenomenon, in that some UFOs are real physical craft not manufactured by any known civilization on earth.”
Or, words to that effect. It’s the kind of statement that many proponents of UFO disclosure would like to hear, but the real question is, what next? Because there will be quite a few follow-up questions.
At the top of the list will be questions about who these other beings are and what their agenda might be. This will be a very difficult question for any President to answer. In the first place, there is a likelihood that even the leaders of the black budget/breakaway society that have been on top of this for years, they may not even know. Or at least not fully. And what if they do know? And, moreover, what if at least some of that answer includes information that might be deeply upsetting?
Divining the intentions of non-human visitors–or permanent residents–might not be the easiest thing to do, but it’s entirely possible, judging from the data we do have, that some of them don’t really care very much about humanity. Some may, some may not. What if an agenda has been determined within the intelligence community, and this agenda includes something to do with alleged abduction phenomena? And even if that isn’t true, does any President honestly believe he or she can contain rampant speculation along these lines?
Even if the intentions of these other beings are said to be neutral or positive, there will clearly be tremendous suspicion by large swaths of humanity. This will not be an easy sell. There will already be a sizable number of people predisposed to interpreting these other these beings as nothing less than demonic. Short of bringing one of these entities to a podium and subjecting it to hours and days and weeks of questions by an insatiable public, it is very likely that any moment of disclosure will not satisfy the public the way it would like to be regarding these alien motivations.
That’s only the beginning of the problems. One early and obvious question that will arise, one which will have deep, profound political implications, will be the very simple “how have you managed to keep this secret all these years?”
Consider that our entire society has been told that UFOs do not represent anything truly anomalous, that ET’s or aliens are definitely not here on Earth interacting with us, that UFO believers may be well-meaning but had been mistaken about all of that. This has been a mindset embedded within all of our major institutions. Our educational institutions from primary school through universities and postdoctoral levels. Throughout our major news organizations, in which an open belief in UFOs is a third rail for one’s career. Throughout our scientific establishment for sure, and also throughout our political structure.
Political careers have been destroyed, or at least severely undermined, by the UFO taint. Remember what happened to Dennis Kucinich in 2008 after it became known that many years before he had seen a UFO. Never mind the fact that the two witnesses he had been with came out and corroborated the sighting. They saw the same thing.
All of these institutions and others have treated the UFO topic as nothing more than a joke, something suitable for immature minds. Can it really be that professors throughout the United States uniformly have dismissed this phenomenon without any cooperation from the intelligence community? Ditto with the world of science, politics, and media? Well, no, not when the most modest amount of research shows strong intelligence community influence over all of those institutions.
In other words people will see very clearly that the national security apparatus has created a global culture that has suffocated the truth. Researchers will begin to investigate in a serious way just how these relationships have undermined the credibility of all of those institutions, and undermined our apprehension of truth.
The result will be a major cultural and institutional housecleaning. But it won’t stop there. Citizens will naturally want to know specifics about the structure of secrecy itself. That is, they will want to know, if the US president has been out of the loop all these years, as it seems, then who exactly has been in the loop? Who has been running the UFO cover-up?
If the answer is anything along the lines of my own research so far, it will show that the cover-up has long ago gravitated away from formal presidential authority into international and private hands. It’s not that the U.S. President is a non-player in all of this, but rather is more like the public face of the true power elite that stands behind. We all have come to understand this when it comes to power in general, and this will likely be the case when we begin a sophisticated analysis of UFO secrecy.
In other words, the moment of disclosure will trigger an intellectual revolution worldwide relating to the true structure of power on planet Earth. It will be a moment in which the world sees and acknowledges that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all.
The political fallout will be tremendous, and a great battle will develop within the first year of Disclosure. Think of it this way. Just because the president has been forced into making an announcement doesn’t mean that the CIA and all the other intelligence groups that had been managing this will simply walk away from the table. There has been a concerted effort spanning an entire human lifetime to control this topic. A great deal has been invested, and mere disclosure is not going to change that. The real issue in the immediate post-disclosure world will be: who controls the spin on the story?
Because right away there will be a great divide, a chasm. Once this topic is available for open discussion, you can be sure that people around the world will be demanding answers. You can be just as sure that on the other side of the fence, information will be handed out as sparingly as possible. Government spin doctors will be out in great numbers trying to control the situation according to national security policy, but this time independent UFO researchers may very well get a public hearing that they had never gotten before. If the official spokespersons are making misleading or false statements, it’s going to be much easier, post-disclosure, for independent researchers to point this out. Because this time, the world will be much more likely to listen. And there will be many, many more investigators into this topic after disclosure than there are today. How all that will turn out only time will tell.
There are so many other messy issues relating to global finance, energy, truth commissions, lawsuits, cultural transformations, cultural wars, religious/spiritual changes, scientific paradigm shifts, and ultimately geopolitical changes that will allow us to meet the challenge of “others” here on Planet Earth in some sort of coordinated, hopefully logical manner, and even more hopefully, in some way that answers to the people rather than a handful of elite human players.
For that, we will need a groundswell of public pressure from below, and tremendous political energy, ethics, and courage to take on the black budget culture that has dominated this subject for so long, and begin a long, hard fight to reclaim some measure of freedom and dignity for humanity while we begin a new, better, and more mature phase of our existence.
Thank you.
Google that- youtube Richard Dolan, UFO speech, best speech ever, Citizen Hearing on Disclosure, Rich Dolan , IMU
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theres some mention about possible alien involvement in tesla technology in old fbi files to large to upload here
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That is correct...so, in this absence...make up your mind.
Here are a few reasons...
1. Roswell UFO was correct...so, the disclosure will tell us something but not a whole lot....but we did get some technology from that craft...
2. We had a past space faring civilization...ended around 100,000 years ago....until we know exactly what the issues were...government wise, we can not discuss it...
3. We as Civilization do not understand our life and our relationship with our spirits and heaven....until we know that, it is basically impossible to talk to space faring groups. That is the most telling. And , the space fairing will not interface with us...period on a professional level, until that changes over one life time...on purpose.
Some American Indians know some items but not a whole lot....now a days...
So, do not hold your breath...
(No ...Tesla did not connect to Aliens, but did connect to his spirit...similar to Edgar Cayce did)
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Tesla did say that he was receiving very strange messages on his very advanced receiver of the time, which he was thinking could be alien radio messages...As per usual the newspapers jumped on Tesla`s statement and said he was receiving messages from Venus!!
Even newspapers in the 19th century knew how to "headline news" to sell more copies..
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Hi Carl:
Here is what you said.
They called him crazy. Also, they said - cuckoo chicken nic is coo coo.
I still remember all their nasty comments and how making fun of people is something they enjoy.
Here is what you said.
Political careers have been destroyed, or at least severely undermined, by the UFO taint. Remember what happened to Dennis Kucinich in 2008 after it became known that many years before he had seen a UFO. Never mind the fact that the two witnesses he had been with came out and corroborated the sighting. They saw the same thing.
They called him crazy. Also, they said - cuckoo chicken nic is coo coo.
I still remember all their nasty comments and how making fun of people is something they enjoy.