not everyone believes in the same thing as you. The Abrahamic god is only one of many that people believe in. Your assertion that your god is their god and that they have to believe in
Bad assumption and shame on you for telling me I believe in burning bushes and that the infinity told abraham to kill issac. I'm a little more complicated then that but you didn't care, you just presumed and sought to pick an argument. Issues.
Not problems, Issues.
Firstly, I will admit I made an assumption here as to the exact nature of your beliefs, and I apologize for that.
. Your assertion that your god is their god and that they have to believe in your god is just plain arrogant.
I did not say they have to believe that.
"Well , do you know that my god is your god is his god is all god?
God is God regardless."
Those are your exact words. You are asserting that any god or goddess anyone else believes in is in fact your god, and that they are incorrect in their beliefs. If you simply chose your words poorly and did not mean that, then say that, but don't deny that you said it in the first place.
And I think this is where I bow out of this discussion. When your debate partner starts to twist your own words and outright lie about and ignore what they themselves said, it's time to accept that they aren't open to discussion any more. And he has the gall to say the atheist is the problem.
You have not bowed out of the conversation , I have not out right lied , and if you feel I twisted your words then that is on you for speaking what you said not me for quoting your own words, and I said atheists have issues NOT ATHEIST IS THE PROBLEM. Be exact.
I came back into this discussion because you decided on your own that I must have "issues" and that I believe in something I have explicitly stated I do not. If you insult me, I'm not going to let that go unchallenged. Also, FYI, saying atheists have issues is tantamount to saying they're the problem. Don't nitpick.
To hate something, you have to believe it exists, which atheists by definition don't. You're basically saying that he has to actively hate every single god or goddess ever conceived in order to not believe in them, which is obviously a fallacy. Remember that your god is not the only possible god
I am not saying he believes in multiples gods or that he has to believe in such a thing you put those words out there. I did not say them. I am saying he despises God period. AND you don't know MY god. So for you to say to me that I should remember that my god is not the only possible god is extremely arrogant. A BIG ASSUMPTION. For I am thinking the only God. and you are thinking god god god god no god. But make no mistake I am not saying hawkings hates thor and krishnia and allah, I am just theorizing that the man has a hatred of God.
Firstly, you again assert that I must believe in something I in fact don't believe in: "Only the way you talk... It leads me to think you doubt your faith in godlessness. But not enough to admit to it."
Now, on to the main point, you said:
"I think Stephen Hawking is just so bitter about his circumstances in this life that he harbors a hatred of God..."
This implies that in order to assert that God doesn't exist, you must harbour a hatred of God, and by extension the opposite is not true, ie. "you can assert that God does not exist without hating him" is false.
By making the statement he did, Hawking implies that none of the other gods/goddesses exist either. So by your own logic, he must hate those gods/goddesses too, and by extension, believe in them.
So by your own logic, Hawking must believe in all possible gods/goddesses and hate them. See?
You don't even care to ask me what exactly I believe, you already have a retort ready for what you THINK I believe but you haven't even examined my beliefs.
What you believe doesn't concern me. You could believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and it wouldn't make a difference. What matters is the right for people to believe what they want to believe, and for those people to not be told "your beliefs are wrong and mine are right". It's fine to think that, but keep it to yourself. (And yes, I'm aware this applies to Hawking too)
(I'll admit that I've probably done that myself when particularly annoyed with people on this forum in the past, but I'm trying to avoid doing it going forward, as a sign of respect for people's beliefs. If I do it, feel free to yell at me and direct me back to this post)
