The War on Christianity in America

[Samstwitch]

The original verse of that didn't have "Under God" in it.

Regardless of when the words were put in there, they've been in the Pledge of Allegiance for decades. Either way it's another attack on Christianity in America.

 

[AETERNAM REX]

The original verse of that didn't have "Under God" in it.

Regardless of when the words were put in there, they've been in the Pledge of Allegiance for decades. Either way it's another attack on Christianity in America.

The context of God in the pledge is a generic one. It states "god", and not "Christian God/Jesus/Iesus" or "Allah" or "Jehovah" or "Satan", etc. Thus the only belief it isn't applicable to is Atheism. So, one could argue that it is an attack on Atheism to demand the pledge of allegiance be about 'god'.

Further, the pledge of allegiance is arguably worshiping a false idol, therefore sinful and blasphemous, contrary to Christianity. Note how it states " I pledge of ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG of the United States..." ...So, one could also argue that the pledge itself, whether or not it contains the word 'god', is a blasphemous attack on Christianity.

 

[Khaos]

The original verse of that didn't have "Under God" in it.

Regardless of when the words were put in there, they've been in the Pledge of Allegiance for decades. Either way it's another attack on Christianity in America.

The context of God in the pledge is a generic one. It states "god", and not "Christian God/Jesus/Iesus" or "Allah" or "Jehovah" or "Satan", etc. Thus the only belief it isn't applicable to is Atheism. So, one could argue that it is an attack on Atheism to demand the pledge of allegiance be about 'god'.

Further, the pledge of allegiance is arguably worshiping a false idol, therefore sinful and blasphemous, contrary to Christianity. Note how it states " I pledge of ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG of the United States..." ...So, one could also argue that the pledge itself, whether or not it contains the word 'god', is a blasphemous attack on Christianity.

Wow, great minds think alike. I was going to make the exact same comment, and then my internet went out and I return to find someone took the words right out of my head. Thank you

But anyways, the term "God" is defined only as a higher power, a higher entity, something that created everything. To think that the term "God" only applies to Christianity, is rather close minded... I mean no offense! But I have to say that.

 

[Samstwitch]

But anyways, the term "God" is defined only as a higher power, a higher entity, something that created everything. To think that the term "God" only applies to Christianity, is rather close minded... I mean no offense! But I have to say that.

Yes, I understand and I agree. They have taken GOD out of America at every turn!

I'm just waiting for the government to take the words off of the money, "In God We Trust".

 

[AETERNAM REX]

Wow, great minds think alike. I was going to make the exact same comment, and then my internet went out and I return to find someone took the words right out of my head. Thank you

Right on. You caught the vibes.

But anyways, the term "God" is defined only as a higher power, a higher entity, something that created everything. To think that the term "God" only applies to Christianity, is rather close minded... I mean no offense! But I have to say that.

If you explore different faiths and interpretations of the people of said faiths, you will see a lot of commonality, a similar message. I was once told by a Muslim that Allah was just a different name for the same god that Christians worship.

God is God. Regardless of the different interpretations thereof, there is one universal truth, which is the universe itself and the recognition that it all had to start somewhere from something...hence THE GOD.

Further, ..in reference to my point above about blasphemy...and just to share...

There was once a kid in middle school that didn't say the pledge. So one day I asked him why. He calmly and proudly said, " I am a Jehovah Witness. I don't worship false idols." He essentially explained that it was a piece of fabric, not God, therefore unworthy of worship. It made good sense to me.

How come it doesn't say " I pledge of ALLEGIANCE TO GOD "..., then country and flag ? Note how the Marine corps motto starts with God.
( God - Country - Corps )

The pledge is socialist in nature and origin, and promotes the worship of statism, government as a god. It just doesn't sit well with me.

 

[AETERNAM REX]

I'm just waiting for the government to take the words off of the money, "In God We Trust".

*sigh*

 

[Khaos]

At this point in time, I'd trust God with my money, than some sleazeball called a "politician"

But anyways, the term "God" is defined only as a higher power, a higher entity, something that created everything. To think that the term "God" only applies to Christianity, is rather close minded... I mean no offense! But I have to say that.

Yes, I understand and I agree. They have taken GOD out of America at every turn!

I'm just waiting for the government to take the words off of the money, "In God We Trust".

Not really. There are still churches. People are still able to hold masses in public areas like parks and other recreation centers. The WBC is still allowed to produce their anti-gay bile and picket funerals of dead soldiers.

Besides, if they were to remove "under god" from the pledge, what is stopping you from still saying "under god" when pledging?

 

[Samstwitch]

Even though you want to debate the matter to endless directions, there is still a War on Christianity in America. That is the topic here.

 

[AETERNAM REX]

Even though you want to debate the matter to endless directions, there is still a War on Christianity in America. That is the topic here.

Sam,

It is a topic with many aspects to consider, hence the seeming digression.

It is more like a war FROM Christianity....or perhaps it is better stated ' a war between Christ-ocracy and religious freedom '.

I can cite many examples of how the US is a virtual Christian theocracy. Some of which I already have in this very thread.

There are 360+ million people in the USA. 200+ million of them are of a Judea-Christian background. 100+ million are Fundamentalist or Evangelical. So what about the other 160+ million people? Why should they have to tolerate having to abide by Christian values or practice Christianity/Christian customs ...or any other religion besides their own?

What you see as an attack on your faith is often seen by others as a defense from it. There is a distinct difference between celebrating a faith and imposing it. Openly preaching or having service in a park or something is different from pushing it through law or having a one sided self righteous implementation of it.

At what point does it change from OFFERING the word to PUSHING it?

Could you imagine how people would react if grocers were shut down during Ramadan as liquor stores are on Sunday? How would people get all their Christmas shopping done? If Christians griped about it, would you call it a war on Islam in America?

If you had to listen to Muslim prayer 3 times a day through loudspeakers everywhere, would you call it religious freedom or imposition?

If you lived in a secular Muslim country as a Christian, would it bother you to have to stop and bow three times a day?

 

[Samstwitch]