Time Traveler from the year 4283.- Confirmed Hoax

[HeraldOfTruth]

What happened to Stonehenge?

Stonehenge was not directly hit during the nuclear genocide in 2447, but multiple detonations in the region were close enough to weaken the structure and it slowly erodes over time and completely collapses into rubble by the early 3200's.

 

[ThumberOne]

While originally many scientists supported the Many-Worlds Interpretation, it was discovered that alternate timelines cannot physically exist. There is only one timeline, and it CAN be altered.

I have only been able to dig up a handful of time traveler claims because I already know they are here and why and never needed to look, though I have not found any claimants that posted anything credible since my decision to begin posting, aside from a few key points that John Titor understood. I have come to the conclusion that either he was from a previous iteration of the timeline's future where they were still only just discovering time travel, or he was a well-informed fraud. In either case, it is difficult to prove.

From the perspective of a time traveler that is paradox proof what is the difference between what appears to be a proof of the multiverse and what appears to be another itteration of the timeline? Also how long does it take for changes to reach the future

 

[HeraldOfTruth]

From the perspective of a time traveler that is paradox proof what is the difference between what appears to be a proof of the multiverse and what appears to be another itteration of the timeline? Also how long does it take for changes to reach the future

You may have misunderstood. What I am saying is, that IF Titor was a genuine time traveler, his arrival here and actions changed the future from what he was describing into what it has become. In other words, his future would have been overwritten by mine. This is of course still an if. He only has a chance in my eyes because of his method of time travel, despite he himself not understanding the science of it. It could still be a very good guess and a fraudulent claim.

Changes to the timeline occur instantly throughout all of time at once, or at least near instantly. It is not something we are able to precisely measure yet.

I have also confirmed with my superiors that the future is intact.

 

[ThumberOne]

Time Travel exists, and the technology to do it is already being studied behind closed doors. In fact, the first successful time machine was completed at a time unknown to me, however one traveler was discovered, killed, and his machine confiscated and destroyed by the Deep State in 2001 before they took over the identity of the traveler and claimed to "return to his own time". They covered up the story with fake trails for anyone who went looking, but only a few did and they believed the lies. One thing you must all remember is that anyone who opposes the Deep State is silenced, one way or another. Those who openly oppose them without repercussions are in truth Deep State agents that seek to confuse the American Public and unknowingly sway them from the side of those who truly seek to fight the evil in America, and around the world. America's "Deep State" does not act alone... It has support across the globe, because they are all the scattered remnants of the Illuminati. They tried too hard to gain power when they first were founded, and were discovered before they could grasp the power they needed. After they failed, they trusted their descendants and the rare initiated disciple to pass the mission on to each generation, and they would never speak to anyone of this, not even amongst themselves. They bided their time, and nearly succeeded in domination of the entire planet. They are real, they are all around us, and they will continue to grow in power despite anything the people of this time do.

My time machine is shaped like a flying saucer, propelled by electromagnetic flight, and works by creating five micro-black holes that rotate around the time machine during flight, creating what we call in my time a "Tipler Corridor". It is based on the Tipler Cylinder. To my knowledge, the public in this time is not aware of the truth of Dark Matter. It plays a very important role in long-distance time travel and time travel to the past, but it isn't fully understood until the late 3600's. Dark Matter is composed of Negative Mass and the reason it is unobservable is because not even light can touch it. It is repelled where it should be attracted and attracted where it should be repelled. When Dark Matter is concentrated and exposed to high-density energy, it's atoms destabilize and collapse into mini-black holes. Most of these black holes only exist for a moment because they are typically only surrounded by more negative mass in the form of Dark Matter. If normal matter is consumed by the black hole, it may be possible to stabilize.

Ask me any questions about the future that do not result in personal gain, I am not here to make anyone money at the expense of another. In fact, this message board will not exist in my time and that is why I chose to post here. I do not have pictures, but I can describe the engineering and how the Time Machine flies and detail more about the other functions required for Time Travel should anyone want to know. The "UFO Phenomena" is a result of the mission of Time Travelers in my time, and likely future ones as well. All of the knowledge of the Old World was lost, and I myself have been tasked with reacquiring lost histories to aid in rediscovering the origins and obstacles of humanity and witnessing those historical events in person to confirm them. Others have been tasked with taking certain resources back to the future for analysis or because we no longer have them in our time. That is why I am here. 2020 is one of the "Dark Years". We do not know much about what happened during the Presidencies of Obama, Trump, or Biden, at least in 4283. All we do know is that an information blackout is imposed and civil unrest spreads until the point of nearing a Civil War. The Civil War appears to have been ultimately averted, but it still remains to be seen.

The world survives WW3 fairly easily... Not to say it is without bloodshed and untold terrors. WW4 however, will see the complete eradication of technology in 2447 after Russian communists achieve world domination in 2446. After the Russians thought they had won, the remaining Rebels were able to infiltrate many of the warehouses that Russia stored confiscated tech, as well as the main server rooms of local authorities within hours of each other, and sabotaged it all. In response, Russian Military forces bombarded the entire world with Nuclear Warheads while the "elite" hid in bunkers to ride out the storm. The surviving humans were able to locate most of the bunkers and killing the last of the communist leaders one by one. They called it the "Last War", but the process of rebuilding the world was not without issues. In 2816, what countries had struggled to survive reached a worldwide alliance known as the Pangea Accords. The world does not recover fully until the early 3200's. No major wars have broken out since the signing of the Accords, but skirmishes have persisted among local landowners as well as small-time terrorists. Security technology has improved to the point that crime is nearly impossible to commit, and the concept of "police" does not exist anymore.

While originally many scientists supported the Many-Worlds Interpretation, it was discovered that alternate timelines cannot physically exist. There is only one timeline, and it CAN be altered. That is why time travel is dangerous. However, it is also inevitable. Paradoxes, however, do not traditionally exist. Time Loops do not exist either, unless a pilot repeatedly returns to the same moment in time of their own will. Time Travelling to the same moment results in the destruction of the physical matter occupying the space of the chosen time, as it is forcefully dispersed during the Time Landing. The destroyed matter is simply broken down into it's base elements. It is still possible to meet yourself if you travel to the same time in a different region of space. This is because space and time are bound together by a force most easily compared to quantum entanglement. What happens to space happens to time, and vice versa. It is also possible to kill your Grandfather, yourself, or whatever family member you choose. It will not erase your existence, because once the human body has time travelled, the universe has already cemented your existence in the new region of time. If, however, you returned to your future after doing so, nobody would know you. There would be no record of you, but you would still exist. There is no such thing as Fate, and in 4283 nobody openly believes in religion. Everyone left contributes to the growth of humanity through science. Before I left, I was even informed that soon a machine sturdy enough to observe the Big Bang would be completed and ready for full-scale testing. Currently, we believe that the Big Bang was the implosion of a primordial supermassive black hole that could have been larger than the Lanikea Supercluster. Furthermore, it is believed that there was more than one "Big Bang". It would explain why many regions of space seem to expand faster or slower than others, likely due to the size or strength of the exploding black hole in that region. In this time you call them "White Holes" but they are believed to emit several different colors of light due to other forms of electromagnetic radiation being consumed throughout time as well. I wish that I could return to participate in the mission, but I believe I will be spending the next several decades in this time in order to observe and document events.

In 3661, renowned physicist Dr. Lupin Strozaf, a Russian-Iranian researcher at the Pangea Institute created the first man-made mini-black hole, at least that was made public. The first message was sent to the future after time travel technology is redeveloped and announced to the public. It was received one month after being sent, and although the text was fractured, it was able to be reconstructed. It was only a message containing plans for a party if the experiment succeeded. The first machine capable of traveling to the past was created in 3802, and we have been using Time Travel to rebuild the future ever since.

This is all I will reveal for now, but only because I want to see what the people of this time are interested in knowing about the future. I will happily answer any questions and private messages are welcome as well, though if you don't mind I would like to post the answers to any questions without revealing the names of those asking. If that is not okay, just let me know and I will not post the questions.

Wouldn't time travel at all count as a successful time maachine?

There are many things about the future that assure us that our mission succeeds. The timeline is maintained by other travelers with more experience, if they detect an anomaly in space-time they are able to respond almost instantly by using their time machines, and return history to the course established in 4283. Any possible negative consequences that could be produced by my postings have already been circumvented. The government in 4283 does regulate time travel. The public knows of its existence and many of the discoveries about our past, however only those who have been selected due to academic achievements and have been cleared by observations into their pasts are allowed to pilot a time machine.

Even then, the security technology installed has safety features that will send the time machine I came here in back to the future, should anything happen to me in this era. The same technology prevents theft of the machine. Our detection methods for gravitational waves have become much more sensitive and accurate, and allowed scientists to create a gravitational sonar device that can take a 3D image of an object and anything hidden inside by detecting the miniscule forces of gravity affecting the world around us and is able to identify even complex shapes or formations with complete clarity, including other humans. Nearly every building in 4283 has one installed, and when a threat is detected by my time machine a temporal beacon draws another time traveler to assist me, and in the worst case will send the machine back to 4283 to prevent it from falling into the hands of humans in this era.

Also would changes by another time traveler affect other time travelers?

 

[DWOMT-1]

As part of your studies, do you or any travellers from the future ever pick up people from past time periods, and take them to the future to learn from them? Then return them to the past afterwards?

Like for example, a traveller from your future picks up Napoleon, then takes him to the future where he can answer questions and present information about himself and the period he came from, then he's returned to his time period with no recollection of what happened?

 

[ThumberOne]

As part of your studies, do you or any travellers from the future ever pick up people from past time periods, and take them to the future to learn from them? Then return them to the past afterwards?

Like for example, a traveller from your future picks up Napoleon, then takes him to the future where he can answer questions and present information about himself and the period he came from, then he's returned to his time period with no recollection of what happened?

@HeraldOfTruth
On that note how is cloning tech in the future?

 

[HeraldOfTruth]

Wouldn't time travel at all count as a successful time maachine?





Also would changes by another time traveler affect other time travelers?

That question sounds rather odd to me, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. The only way to time travel is with a time machine like mine, unless you only want to go to the future for which you just need to apply relativity like the movie Interstellar.

Yes, to a degree. Their memories of the future will be the same, but travelers in times after the change occurred will have their memories of the present be affected by whatever change has been made, if it was even big enough to affect them. Nothing we do should cause such changes, but I suppose I wouldn't remember if it did. To clarify in case it was not understood, the present and future are not bound together when time changes.

As to how I can be as open about the future as I have without affecting future travelers is because of the information blackout in this period. The future has not observed this era, the there are no travelers in the future besides those that are here in the present, which gives me some room for honesty. This information will not exist after the blackout except in the minds of those who have seen it. Even then, how many will believe strong enough to remember so much of what will not affect you, to pass it on to someone who will believe without the source?

@HeraldOfTruth
On that note how is cloning tech in the future?

It is thriving, along with studies into more complex genetic engineering. I have previously mentioned how we have the means to create human/non-human hybrids similar to those portrayed in ancient religions, as a proof of concept. The real studies go into things like regeneration, increasing muscle density, bone strength, tougher skin, better sight, etc.

 

[ThumberOne]

Time Travel exists, and the technology to do it is already being studied behind closed doors. In fact, the first successful time machine was completed at a time unknown to me, however one traveler was discovered, killed, and his machine confiscated and destroyed by the Deep State in 2001 before they took over the identity of the traveler and claimed to "return to his own time". They covered up the story with fake trails for anyone who went looking, but only a few did and they believed the lies. One thing you must all remember is that anyone who opposes the Deep State is silenced, one way or another. Those who openly oppose them without repercussions are in truth Deep State agents that seek to confuse the American Public and unknowingly sway them from the side of those who truly seek to fight the evil in America, and around the world. America's "Deep State" does not act alone... It has support across the globe, because they are all the scattered remnants of the Illuminati. They tried too hard to gain power when they first were founded, and were discovered before they could grasp the power they needed. After they failed, they trusted their descendants and the rare initiated disciple to pass the mission on to each generation, and they would never speak to anyone of this, not even amongst themselves. They bided their time, and nearly succeeded in domination of the entire planet. They are real, they are all around us, and they will continue to grow in power despite anything the people of this time do.

My time machine is shaped like a flying saucer, propelled by electromagnetic flight, and works by creating five micro-black holes that rotate around the time machine during flight, creating what we call in my time a "Tipler Corridor". It is based on the Tipler Cylinder. To my knowledge, the public in this time is not aware of the truth of Dark Matter. It plays a very important role in long-distance time travel and time travel to the past, but it isn't fully understood until the late 3600's. Dark Matter is composed of Negative Mass and the reason it is unobservable is because not even light can touch it. It is repelled where it should be attracted and attracted where it should be repelled. When Dark Matter is concentrated and exposed to high-density energy, it's atoms destabilize and collapse into mini-black holes. Most of these black holes only exist for a moment because they are typically only surrounded by more negative mass in the form of Dark Matter. If normal matter is consumed by the black hole, it may be possible to stabilize.

Ask me any questions about the future that do not result in personal gain, I am not here to make anyone money at the expense of another. In fact, this message board will not exist in my time and that is why I chose to post here. I do not have pictures, but I can describe the engineering and how the Time Machine flies and detail more about the other functions required for Time Travel should anyone want to know. The "UFO Phenomena" is a result of the mission of Time Travelers in my time, and likely future ones as well. All of the knowledge of the Old World was lost, and I myself have been tasked with reacquiring lost histories to aid in rediscovering the origins and obstacles of humanity and witnessing those historical events in person to confirm them. Others have been tasked with taking certain resources back to the future for analysis or because we no longer have them in our time. That is why I am here. 2020 is one of the "Dark Years". We do not know much about what happened during the Presidencies of Obama, Trump, or Biden, at least in 4283. All we do know is that an information blackout is imposed and civil unrest spreads until the point of nearing a Civil War. The Civil War appears to have been ultimately averted, but it still remains to be seen.

The world survives WW3 fairly easily... Not to say it is without bloodshed and untold terrors. WW4 however, will see the complete eradication of technology in 2447 after Russian communists achieve world domination in 2446. After the Russians thought they had won, the remaining Rebels were able to infiltrate many of the warehouses that Russia stored confiscated tech, as well as the main server rooms of local authorities within hours of each other, and sabotaged it all. In response, Russian Military forces bombarded the entire world with Nuclear Warheads while the "elite" hid in bunkers to ride out the storm. The surviving humans were able to locate most of the bunkers and killing the last of the communist leaders one by one. They called it the "Last War", but the process of rebuilding the world was not without issues. In 2816, what countries had struggled to survive reached a worldwide alliance known as the Pangea Accords. The world does not recover fully until the early 3200's. No major wars have broken out since the signing of the Accords, but skirmishes have persisted among local landowners as well as small-time terrorists. Security technology has improved to the point that crime is nearly impossible to commit, and the concept of "police" does not exist anymore.

While originally many scientists supported the Many-Worlds Interpretation, it was discovered that alternate timelines cannot physically exist. There is only one timeline, and it CAN be altered. That is why time travel is dangerous. However, it is also inevitable. Paradoxes, however, do not traditionally exist. Time Loops do not exist either, unless a pilot repeatedly returns to the same moment in time of their own will. Time Travelling to the same moment results in the destruction of the physical matter occupying the space of the chosen time, as it is forcefully dispersed during the Time Landing. The destroyed matter is simply broken down into it's base elements. It is still possible to meet yourself if you travel to the same time in a different region of space. This is because space and time are bound together by a force most easily compared to quantum entanglement. What happens to space happens to time, and vice versa. It is also possible to kill your Grandfather, yourself, or whatever family member you choose. It will not erase your existence, because once the human body has time travelled, the universe has already cemented your existence in the new region of time. If, however, you returned to your future after doing so, nobody would know you. There would be no record of you, but you would still exist. There is no such thing as Fate, and in 4283 nobody openly believes in religion. Everyone left contributes to the growth of humanity through science. Before I left, I was even informed that soon a machine sturdy enough to observe the Big Bang would be completed and ready for full-scale testing. Currently, we believe that the Big Bang was the implosion of a primordial supermassive black hole that could have been larger than the Lanikea Supercluster. Furthermore, it is believed that there was more than one "Big Bang". It would explain why many regions of space seem to expand faster or slower than others, likely due to the size or strength of the exploding black hole in that region. In this time you call them "White Holes" but they are believed to emit several different colors of light due to other forms of electromagnetic radiation being consumed throughout time as well. I wish that I could return to participate in the mission, but I believe I will be spending the next several decades in this time in order to observe and document events.

In 3661, renowned physicist Dr. Lupin Strozaf, a Russian-Iranian researcher at the Pangea Institute created the first man-made mini-black hole, at least that was made public. The first message was sent to the future after time travel technology is redeveloped and announced to the public. It was received one month after being sent, and although the text was fractured, it was able to be reconstructed. It was only a message containing plans for a party if the experiment succeeded. The first machine capable of traveling to the past was created in 3802, and we have been using Time Travel to rebuild the future ever since.

This is all I will reveal for now, but only because I want to see what the people of this time are interested in knowing about the future. I will happily answer any questions and private messages are welcome as well, though if you don't mind I would like to post the answers to any questions without revealing the names of those asking. If that is not okay, just let me know and I will not post the questions.

For the time machine question I forgot to bold the two relevent sentences.


I should had reworded my second question to "would timeline changes affect other time travelers?"

In addition how would the paradox proofing only personal in effect? What'ts the difference between ordering someone to grandfather paradox you (assuming you are in the time machine) and pulling the trigger yourself?

 

[HeraldOfTruth]

As part of your studies, do you or any travellers from the future ever pick up people from past time periods, and take them to the future to learn from them? Then return them to the past afterwards?

Like for example, a traveller from your future picks up Napoleon, then takes him to the future where he can answer questions and present information about himself and the period he came from, then he's returned to his time period with no recollection of what happened?

We have considered the idea but ultimately decided against it, there are too many potentially destructive variables. Altering memories is extremely unethical and not acceptable practice in the future. Observation from inside and out has proven to be more efficient in the end regardless, as the perspective of just one man would never be enough to surpass not only their perspectives, but what influenced them, no matter how many of them we brought in for questioning.

 

[ThumberOne]

@HeraldOfTruth
Let me know when it's afternoon from your perspective (for the details you mentioned to @Mayhem )