War with IRAN has...begun.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"shane\")</div>
That's right on. It's the world's largest oil supply, desperately needed by a devoloping third-world. I'm not saying our leaders have planned anything so bold as the eventual invasion of Saudi Arabia, but their cooperation would be close to a sure thing when our guns sorround their borders.[/b]
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I agree with this, how easily they will be persuaded when surrounded by an overwhelming force. I would become concerned for your own personal safety when North Korea shows a strong distaste for our actions. It's funny how the US doesn't invade countrys who actually have nuclear capability and aren't scared to say who they hate.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/GB17Dg02.html
 
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US SPY PLANE CRASHES IN IRAN
Islamic Community Net
June 22, 2005

"...the military would not confirm the location of the crash, 'due to host nation sensitivities'"

There is no mention that the "host nation" is a WILLING "host nation". And to see just WHICH "host nation" lies between Iraq and Afghanistan, view:



This spy plane over Iran immediately follows a report (see the second article below) from former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter that the US is deploying spy aircraft against Iran:

"As we speak, American over flights of Iranian soil are taking place, using pilotless drones and other, more sophisticated, capabilities. The violation of a sovereign nation's airspace is an act of war in and of itself."

Please note that 2 articles follow:

*US spy plane crashes in southwest Asia, pilot killed - UPDATE
*The US war with Iran has already begun

more....

http://chiapas.mediosindependientes.org/di...display.php3?ar...
 
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Langar, two things:

1. There is always a possibility that it could happen that the U.S. might go against Iran. The U.S. might also go after Syria. Or any other country. Let's hope it does not happen.

2. That being said... If you are going to quote a source, I would recommend something other than Aljazeera would be warranted. Aljazeera is not the best source, although it is better than most in the Middle East (which isn't saying much). The people at Aljazeera actually believe drivel like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is true and that Jewish people kill Christian children for their blood to bake into Passover matzah. This is the sort of stuff that used to be the standard fare of the dark ages in Europe, yet they not only believe the junk, they promote the ideas. So, credibility is extremely thin here.

When this comes out on Drudge or the other mainstream media, I'll take a second look.[/b]
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Hey Pauli,

Thanks for the info, I always wondered what made Matzah taste so good.
Amazing what people will believe isn't it?

You have to ask yourself what's there for us?

Afganistan Poppy Fields. We move in and what do you know, Bumper Crop.

Iraq Oil Always good to be helping them set up their police force
Always good to have your foot close to the pumps

Iran Hmm What do you suppose might be worth having that's in Iraq?
 
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The only thing I can say for sure is what other people are talking about, that may or may not yet be real:

That is an "EMP" strike, and there are many people concerned that besides Iran, other Nations would also do that, but that is a given fact, that if it comes to that, then all Nations would be going through it!

http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw0...40726_1_n.shtml

There are many such links, about that!

Now, the only thing I am saying is that all views hold, or should be considered.

In Saudi Arabia, where they give out money, those in power only work a couple of hours a day. In the mean time, like in the rest of the Middle East, they have not bothered to stop others who may be the T word or world.

Simply put, if it is not bothering them, they don't consider it! Syria, the rest, maybe even Eygpt are also about the same. Until Libya was bombed by Pres. Reagan, they would not think any differently. Now Libya has reconsidered, and has changed!

So, when throwing out words such as imperalism or anything else, do think that other Nations also try and do the same thing. But because the USA was attacked, or dumb, or whatever, those other SOB's have placed theirselves in danger, with the attitudes. It may be that the USA has an attitude also, but then the Air Show is this weekend, so I may get buzzed by jets!

And everyone should once and a while be buzzed by jets. I still have the Blue Angels perhaps, recorded onto my computer, and actually they are going quite slow when doing an Air Show.

But then, you do not hear a Stealth Bomber, until it has passed. In the daylight you may see it, if you know where to look, but then again, getting a real buzz may even help your day out!

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smilie inserted here!

Here is the F/18A jet sound of one Blue Angels squadren now:

Let the 1x MP3 fully load up, by pressing the stop button on the Media Player before playing.

The 8x sound was computer generated from the 1x speed original MP3 file, which was generated by the original Wave Sound Recording. But then, it was only a modem microphone, since those mics have the ability to get loud enough, but the sound is not maxed out, like a professional computer recording studio could do, just a home version!

http://dimensionalcitizen.tripod.com/Blue.html

By the time you actually may hear it, I suppose a bomb would have dropped already, before you heard the jet!
 
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Iraq Oil Always good to be helping them set up their police force
Always good to have your foot close to the pumps
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There's oil in Iraq, but not as much as people seem to think. Iraq is far from a wealthy nation, but it is occupying a very strategic position in regards to other oil supplies.

Until Libya was bombed by Pres. Reagan, they would not think any differently. Now Libya has reconsidered, and has changed!
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Let's say one of your friends is going about life the wrong way. He has a drug problem, no job, etc. Perhaps he's a womanizer, a biggot or just a bastard. In attempting to make him think differently and change his ways, would you consider it the right course of action to murder his family?
 
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Makes me wonder now that Irans nuke plant is coming online.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/ir...ran/bushehr.htm

I hope they can ride the anti-terrorist bandwagon a little longer.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/13/...0588457819.html

Of course the state department seems convinced otherwise already.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/terrorism4.html

Having the second largest oil field in the world may not be enough of a motive.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EG18Ak05.html

Now if we only had a good terrorist attack for an emotional motivator, maybe some of them could even be hiding there, better go see, we are after all, waging a war on terrorism.

Maybe they hate the U.S.A. because of the popularity of rap music. :)
 
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So far this week, as on June 23rd actually, there were a couple of items in the news about what threats still are continuing.

Without looking up the links:
At Fox News:

Usually Christian Ministers seek foreign religious visas to enter into the U.S. Usually sponsered by someone, or group of people. For the last 5 years, Islamic Ministers have seek religious visas. Once they are here, they preach suicide bombings, intolerance of Jews, and other things, that to me simply are not religious. Combined with the fact that it usually is happening in the Large Cities, I like for you to define what the Muslim or Islamic religion really is --- except you becoming one, and living with it or dying for radical Islamic Religious People.

The Link I guess I have to include:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160362,00.html

Now perhaps, this can also be explained about China:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-6-23/29770.html

Now the other Iran:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160680,00.html

Now it seems that they can not control their ministers from Islam, and perhaps, neither will Iran either!

But I, still with no offense to moderate Muslims, confer that their religion actually seems to allow such hard-core reasoning as given perhaps by its religious radicals.

I really do not see the need to confer a term upon the USA when other Nations are denied the same terminology either though!
 
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I clicked the Fox News links, and strangely enough, all I saw was a picture of Rupert Murdoch and the following text:

money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money
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Gotta love the corporate media!
 
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http://www.periodico26.cu/english_new/world/iran270605....

Analysts Say Washington May Still Attack Iran

Tehran, June 27 (RHC)-- Two recent analyses show that the United States may still attack Iran, despite the lack of evidence that Tehran poses a threat to Washington or anyone else for that matter.

The first analysis, by former United Nations nuclear arms inspector Scott Ritter, distributed through the Al Jazeera Website, says that the US assault on Iran has already begun. Ritter asserts that the terrorist organization Mujaheddin-e Khalg (known as the MEK or MKO in the West) is operating as a strike force under CIA direction, and that the United States is preparing to stage military attacks from Azerbaijan.

The second analysis appears in the Boston Globe, written by Ray Takeyh, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, who claims that the "counter-reform" movement has led to the successful candidacy of former mayor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in the presidential elections in Iran. Takeyh's analysis echoes an infamous paper issued by the Committee on the Present Danger -- an organization of ex-Cold Warriors that has reorganized itself as a so-called anti-terrorist organization. The paper, issued December 20, 2004, was entitled "Iran: A New Approach" and was authored by Mark Palmer and George Schultz.

According to an article on the Truth Out Website, Seymour Hersh predicted that the US would attack in June in "The Coming Wars," published in The New Yorker in January -- but most analysts agree that the planned attacks were called off due to the worsening situation for US troops in neighboring Iraq.
 
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Check out these guys. They are a little scary. I feel a little better knowing we are investing 214 million a year on these supercops.

?Every one of these are events we have to worry about,? Furey said. ?We?re there, and mostly the public doesn?t see it, but that?s as it should be.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8332827/
 

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