Civil War

[Kairos]

So when you use the word "right", do you really just mean the collection of ideologies and values that are bent toward isolation and increasing the value of one set of people over all others? If you, know, we're talking about the far ends of the "spectrum" .

Nope. The right is just a collection of different ideologies that are *not* bent on the destruction of our civilization. They are all very different, really, and in any case I don't even consider probably 2/3 of the republican party as belonging to that category at all.

We are essentially ruined by neo-liberals (progressives, "liberals", neo-cons, and libertarians are all basically different flavors of the same toxic ideas). They have this con game down pat where they infest both major parties and lock out any other ideas from liberalism by declaring it out-of-bounds since neither brand of liberal wants to discuss it.

Right and left, as identifiers really mean jack shit. All that matters to me right now is this obsession with destroying our civilization and with death. What everybody is calling the "left" is a maniacal, violent death cult at this point.

 

[titorite]

You should all really watch more 1st amendment audits. YouTube. 1st amendment audit. And dont be a boot licker. You have every right to film what public servants do in the execution of their public duties. You want to know if the records clerk is willing to do her job proper or if she is just gonna play tetris on her phone while ignoring you. you want to know if the cop is enforcing the law proper or making it up as he goes along. You want to know if the people you pay in your tax dollars are doing their job or abusing their position.

 

[Classicalfan626]

We are essentially ruined by neo-liberals (progressives, "liberals", neo-cons, and libertarians are all basically different flavors of the same toxic ideas).

Actually, I have some things worth pointing out.

Those that call themselves "progressives" are not really progressives, as they are not really proponents of reform and progress and improvement of society. What they really want is to take the power and keep it for themselves; so call them regressives, not progressives.

I don't know much about neocons, but I assume, as they stand for neoconservatives, that they are more in line with traditional patriotic Americans.

Libertarians I'm very certain have more in common with traditional Republicans than Democrats. Gary Johnson, for instance, was once a Republican, and he took about 2 or 3% of the popular vote from Donald Trump in the 2016 election.

Those that try to ruin us are better off being called what they are: leftists, regressives, socialists, communists. Socialism and communism are not at all far removed from what are called "progressivism" and "liberalism", particularly if you follow the proponents' actions and not their words.

 

[Harte]

So when you use the word "right", do you really just mean the collection of ideologies and values that are bent toward isolation and increasing the value of one set of people over all others? If you, know, we're talking about the far ends of the "spectrum" .

I don't agree with that representation, but I would state that the extremes in EITHER political philosophy are BOTH "bent towards the destruction of Western Civilization."

Harte

 

[Kairos]

I am not talking about an opinion of where their ideologies would lead if allowed to control policy and governance. I am talking about their motivations. The motivations of globalists, and neo-Marxists in particular, are explicitly the genocide of western civilization. It's not some kind of secret here. The Marxists utterly hate this civilization and want it dismantled.

 

[taykair]

Since conspiracy theories abound in forums like this, I'll propose one:

1. Mr. Trump was a life-long, card-carrying member of the Democrat Party up until about 15 minutes before he announced he was seeking the GOP nomination. (Fact, more or less.)

2. About a week or so before that announcement, he had a long telephone conversation with Bill Clinton. (Fact. I remember Mr. Trump, on Fox News, saying so.)

Could it be that the Clintons advised Mr. Trump to run as a Republican in order to destroy that party from within?

Talk about unintended consequences!

 

[Kairos]

He's the same guy he has always been.

 

[taykair]

The ad referenced in the video was Mr. Trump's condemnation of what was then a Republican-led foreign policy.

You may be correct, though. He may, in fact, be the same as he's always been.

 

[Kairos]

I am correct. He took over the GOP. He's no ally to the neocons that previously took over the GOP when they came over from the democratic party.

 

[Cirrus]

Since conspiracy theories abound in forums like this, I'll propose one:

1. Mr. Trump was a life-long, card-carrying member of the Democrat Party up until about 15 minutes before he announced he was seeking the GOP nomination. (Fact, more or less.)

2. About a week or so before that announcement, he had a long telephone conversation with Bill Clinton. (Fact. I remember Mr. Trump, on Fox News, saying so.)

Could it be that the Clintons advised Mr. Trump to run as a Republican in order to destroy that party from within?

Talk about unintended consequences!

Maybe not to destroy the Republican party from within but to weed out the Republican candidates who might be a threat to HC. In doing so, Trump discovered that he was "winning" and his ego skyrocketed. There was no turning back from Trump at that point.