Donald Trump is the Antichrist

2021 said:
That’s such a bad take I can’t even express it properly. It is literally the worst take on the subject I’ve ever seen. And I guarantee you our allies don’t see it that way, because it simply isn’t true. For the sake of discussion, why exactly do you think of it like that?

Okay, so, that’s not entirely true. These “same issues throughout history” were much smaller scale than what we would see if the US kicked off World War 3. Even World War 2 wasn’t as large scale as what would break out in WW3 because of nuclear weapons.

Aside from that, it’s not as simple as WW3 = End of the World. World War 3 would be absolutely awful, but not necessarily world ending. The issue right now is that Trump isn’t just an evil person with power, he is the literal Antichrist. I was told this twice from three different sources, a light being that showed up in my room after an incident with a demon, a group of light beings during an OBE achieved through the Gateway Process, and even more recently a Gray alien that forced an OBE just a couple days ago, though unlike the light beings they don’t want me to talk about most of what happened. So I will respect that.

However, one more thing I want to say is that just because people have done these things in the past, doesn’t make it acceptable for it to keep happening. Even if Trump wasn’t the Antichrist, which he well and truly is, what he’s doing should still be considered nothing short of evil.
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Your "allies" see you as a handout. You're the rich kid who only has friends as long as he has money. Of course the handout comes with terms, namely that they are hopelessly dependent on the US, and ultimately must do as Washington tells them. But let's not kid ourselves and pretend that there's any sort of genuine friendship here. Hell, it's politics, after all.

Anyway, I wouldn't brush off WW3 so lightly. There's more than enough nukes in play to destroy the world several times over. Hell, you wouldn't even need to really destroy the planet. Just setting off a bunch of them would cause global agricultural decline, and massive food shortages, as well as very serious ecological changes.

I am afraid that the nature of governments in general is that they are quite evil. I don't think it's acceptable. But...unfortunately, it's a bit of a historical inevitability. Consider that we had internment camps, genocide, government spying, killing of dissidents, etc. all here before Donald Trump took office. They'll all still be there after he's gone, unfortunately. My advice to you would be to try and structure your life so as to put distance between yourself and the effects of politics. Be prepared, be alert, and be strong.
 
I noticed during a sit down with the King of Jordan. Trump was asked under what authority do you have to take Gaza, he calmly replied
"America's".
 
LostInSauce said:
Your "allies" see you as a handout. You're the rich kid who only has friends as long as he has money. Of course the handout comes with terms, namely that they are hopelessly dependent on the US, and ultimately must do as Washington tells them. But let's not kid ourselves and pretend that there's any sort of genuine friendship here. Hell, it's politics, after all.

Anyway, I wouldn't brush off WW3 so lightly. There's more than enough nukes in play to destroy the world several times over. Hell, you wouldn't even need to really destroy the planet. Just setting off a bunch of them would cause global agricultural decline, and massive food shortages, as well as very serious ecological changes.

I am afraid that the nature of governments in general is that they are quite evil. I don't think it's acceptable. But...unfortunately, it's a bit of a historical inevitability. Consider that we had internment camps, genocide, government spying, killing of dissidents, etc. all here before Donald Trump took office. They'll all still be there after he's gone, unfortunately. My advice to you would be to try and structure your life so as to put distance between yourself and the effects of politics. Be prepared, be alert, and be strong.
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I’m sorry but that is just not true. We help each other in different ways, and honestly the US is trillions in debt so don’t act like we’re not taking handouts either. this is honestly just a very pessimistic take and I can see there’s no changing your opinion on that so that’s all that really needs to be said.

I’m not brushing it off, but WW3 doesn’t have to mean nukes are used. Although under Donald “nuke the hurricane” Trump, anything could happen. Also, your opinion here contradicts the things you said earlier about it not being the end of the world. It most certainly could be and you pretty much just admitted it.

It has been an inevitability in the past but it doesn’t have to be in the future. Also, saying to distance yourself from politics is impossible if you care about other people because millions and more are going to be affected by what happens during the Trump administration whether we “distance ourselves” or not. Including myself. I rely on Medicaid for my meds and Social Security because of my disability, and Trump wants to gut both of them. If he does that, I will literally be homeless and unable to work. Do you expect me to just sit down and accept that? That just won’t happen.

How do you go from being a pessimist to having such optimism in practically the same breath? You act like people choose to let politics affect them and have the option of living life without it. That’s simply not true.
 
2021 said:
I’m sorry but that is just not true. We help each other in different ways, and honestly the US is trillions in debt so don’t act like we’re not taking handouts either. this is honestly just a very pessimistic take and I can see there’s no changing your opinion on that so that’s all that really needs to be said.

I’m not brushing it off, but WW3 doesn’t have to mean nukes are used. Although under Donald “nuke the hurricane” Trump, anything could happen. Also, your opinion here contradicts the things you said earlier about it not being the end of the world. It most certainly could be and you pretty much just admitted it.

It has been an inevitability in the past but it doesn’t have to be in the future. Also, saying to distance yourself from politics is impossible if you care about other people because millions and more are going to be affected by what happens during the Trump administration whether we “distance ourselves” or not. Including myself. I rely on Medicaid for my meds and Social Security because of my disability, and Trump wants to gut both of them. If he does that, I will literally be homeless and unable to work. Do you expect me to just sit down and accept that? That just won’t happen.

How do you go from being a pessimist to having such optimism in practically the same breath? You act like people choose to let politics affect them and have the option of living life without it. That’s simply not true.
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It's not pessimism. It's just a fact. They're client states, not friends. The US occupies their countries, influences their policy making through NGOs, and finances them. Hell, that's a huge factor in the US' debt.

WW3 would almost certainly go nuclear because the countries involved have nuclear weapons and have all declared that they will use them if their existence is jeopardized. When I said it's not the end of the world earlier, I meant it in a hyperbolic sense. When discussing nuclear war, it's in a very literal sense. Of course, that war won't happen. I'd bet my life on it (ha). Simply put, your preferred candidate losing a political superbowl isn't the end of the world. Megatons of nuclear warheads dropping across the planet IS the end of the world.

It's possible to distance yourself from politics. You can't save everyone. They don't want you to save them. They probably don't even realize there's anything wrong. And hell, god knows they don't reciprocate. You ever see how people treat each other? Drowning people are regularly a risk to their rescuers. Ultimately, you can save yourself, and probably those closest to you.

As for your medicaid and social security? Social security will never be gutted, because boomers are, unfortunately, the most powerful voting block in the US. Social security won't end due to legislation. It'll end due to it being a ponzi scheme. As for medicaid, I can't comment, because I live in one of your satellite states that, for what it's worth, doesn't have a fucked up healthcare system.
 
LostInSauce said:
It's not pessimism. It's just a fact. They're client states, not friends. The US occupies their countries, influences their policy making through NGOs, and finances them. Hell, that's a huge factor in the US' debt.

WW3 would almost certainly go nuclear because the countries involved have nuclear weapons and have all declared that they will use them if their existence is jeopardized. When I said it's not the end of the world earlier, I meant it in a hyperbolic sense. When discussing nuclear war, it's in a very literal sense. Of course, that war won't happen. I'd bet my life on it (ha). Simply put, your preferred candidate losing a political superbowl isn't the end of the world. Megatons of nuclear warheads dropping across the planet IS the end of the world.

It's possible to distance yourself from politics. You can't save everyone. They don't want you to save them. They probably don't even realize there's anything wrong. And hell, god knows they don't reciprocate. You ever see how people treat each other? Drowning people are regularly a risk to their rescuers. Ultimately, you can save yourself, and probably those closest to you.

As for your medicaid and social security? Social security will never be gutted, because boomers are, unfortunately, the most powerful voting block in the US. Social security won't end due to legislation. It'll end due to it being a ponzi scheme. As for medicaid, I can't comment, because I live in one of your satellite states that, for what it's worth, doesn't have a fucked up healthcare system.
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I’m sorry but that is just wrong. It’s literally one of the worst ways to look at it. Friends protect and take care of each other. I won’t get any further into this because like I said I just don’t think it’s going to be a healthy debate.

Almost certainly are the keywords here, but moving on… Trump is literally threatening our allies and other countries with invasion. If he follows through, it most certainly will be a Third World War. Donald Trump is trying to do all the evil shit he’s been saying he wants to do, why do you think this is any different?

Another hugely pessimistic take. Sorry, but politics directly affect almost all of us, whether we involve ourselves with it or not. I don’t know how you think it doesn’t. Pretty much the only people who it doesn’t effect at the moment are rich white men, and even then it still does to a degree.

Yeah, you can say I won’t lose my social security but Trump and his buddies all want it gone. I’m going to skip over the Ponzi scheme bs because it’s frankly ridiculous. A lot of people pay for and rely on social security like myself and older and other disabled people.

Man, you don’t even live in the US and you think you know how bad it is? That is just… Wow. Frankly, you clearly have no idea how many people are going to get screwed over because Donald Trump has and will get rid of what he says he will or invade where he says he will. Right now he’s pushing boundaries to see what people will let him get away with, and he is getting away with literally just about everything.

You are right, we should bookmark this thread. Just not for the reason you said.
 
2021 said:
I’m sorry but that is just wrong. It’s literally one of the worst ways to look at it. Friends protect and take care of each other. I won’t get any further into this because like I said I just don’t think it’s going to be a healthy debate.

Almost certainly are the keywords here, but moving on… Trump is literally threatening our allies and other countries with invasion. If he follows through, it most certainly will be a Third World War. Donald Trump is trying to do all the evil shit he’s been saying he wants to do, why do you think this is any different?

Another hugely pessimistic take. Sorry, but politics directly affect almost all of us, whether we involve ourselves with it or not. I don’t know how you think it doesn’t. Pretty much the only people who it doesn’t effect at the moment are rich white men, and even then it still does to a degree.

Yeah, you can say I won’t lose my social security but Trump and his buddies all want it gone. I’m going to skip over the Ponzi scheme bs because it’s frankly ridiculous. A lot of people pay for and rely on social security like myself and older and other disabled people.

Man, you don’t even live in the US and you think you know how bad it is? That is just… Wow. Frankly, you clearly have no idea how many people are going to get screwed over because Donald Trump has and will get rid of what he says he will or invade where he says he will. Right now he’s pushing boundaries to see what people will let him get away with, and he is getting away with literally just about everything.

You are right, we should bookmark this thread. Just not for the reason you said.
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There are no friends in politics. That protection and care stems from mutual benefit. They get security. The US gets influence. Just business. And you've yet to suggest that it's anything more. If you don't want to argue it, then don't.

His term will end in 2029. No major war will take place (because some of the US satellite states have their own nuclear arsenals, namely FR and GB, thus ensuring MAD). You will be just fine. Then some new pedophilic inbred drug addicted kleptocrat will be installed for the next four years. The poor will stay poor, and the wealthy will continue to prosper while you all blame the other party for your woes and continue to participate in elections that make no difference because there's actually only really one party in the US.

Also, I lived in the US most of my life, but I got the hell out because I don't feel like living in a country with endemic corruption, and ridiculous levels of poverty and crime. Granted, corruption is a global problem. But the streets here are safe at night, and I can go to the hospital without going bankrupt.

Enjoy your social security checks. Just be mindful that people currently in their 20s and 30s who are paying them, will literally never receive a cent of the money they paid in because ultimately it's not mathematically sustainable.

Finally, the antichrist is a miracle worker. Donald Trump has yet to perform any miracles. Furthermore, on account of the fact that he's less evil than Hitler, and Hitler wasn't the antichrist, it stands to reason that he's largely disqualified from being the antichrist.
 
LostInSauce said:
There are no friends in politics. That protection and care stems from mutual benefit. They get security. The US gets influence. Just business. And you've yet to suggest that it's anything more. If you don't want to argue it, then don't.

His term will end in 2029. No major war will take place (because some of the US satellite states have their own nuclear arsenals, namely FR and GB, thus ensuring MAD). You will be just fine. Then some new pedophilic inbred drug addicted kleptocrat will be installed for the next four years. The poor will stay poor, and the wealthy will continue to prosper while you all blame the other party for your woes and continue to participate in elections that make no difference because there's actually only really one party in the US.

Also, I lived in the US most of my life, but I got the hell out because I don't feel like living in a country with endemic corruption, and ridiculous levels of poverty and crime. Granted, corruption is a global problem. But the streets here are safe at night, and I can go to the hospital without going bankrupt.

Enjoy your social security checks. Just be mindful that people currently in their 20s and 30s who are paying them, will literally never receive a cent of the money they paid in because ultimately it's not mathematically sustainable.

Finally, the antichrist is a miracle worker. Donald Trump has yet to perform any miracles. Furthermore, on account of the fact that he's less evil than Hitler, and Hitler wasn't the antichrist, it stands to reason that he's largely disqualified from being the antichrist.
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Like I said, that’s just a pessimistic take. There are friends in politics and like I already said, there’s no point arguing it because you clearly won’t change your mind.

You say that, but his people have been talking about getting him a third term. If he can get that, he can get more. Just because other counties have nukes doesn’t mean Trump won’t ignore that and start a war anyway. He’s already threatened to do it. Multiple times. This is yet another pessimistic take, assuming only the worst people can get elected. We got close with a good candidate before, but the Dems shut him out even though he was popular. Regardless of the problems both parties have, one is clearly worse than the other and one of them is more open to positive change, being the Democrats.

I’m glad you got out, but not everyone can. It’s not as easy as it sounds. I literally can’t because nowhere will accept a person from another country who needs disability to survive, I’ve checked. I have nothing to offer. I’m a “leech”, as I’ve been called for simply existing and being unable to work.

I barely make enough to get by with multiple roommates. I wouldnt call it enjoying anything, but I survive. And that’s not true for all of them, but even if it was, so what? How many things your tax dollars go to actually affect you personally? That’s not what taxes are for. People have to pay taxes to contribute to their society that sustains them, not for their own personal gain. Honestly… if we just stopped paying for things we didn’t want or wouldn’t get access to, society would collapse.

Miracles aren’t always obvious. I’d say plenty of things he has done are miraculous. He’s brainwashed millions of people around the world, for one. As for not being as evil as Hitler, he most certainly is. Right now he’s just deporting “undesirables” but when he starts invading other countries, or maybe even before then, he will escalate it. Eventually even El Salvador will stop accepting deportations from the US and then what? Plus it’s only a matter of time before he starts imprisoning his opposition. At that point, what’s to stop him from killing everyone he doesn’t want around? It’s just one small step away from what he’s doing now considering the evil things he’s done in the past. He’ll show himself as the Antichrist eventually, enough for everyone to see it. I don’t know how they don’t already.
 
2021 said:
This may offend people, but that is not my goal.

Recently I have begun the Gateway Experience and during it I was told the identity of the Antichrist. Technically it is multiple people, but they are varying degrees of successful. Donald Trump is the most successful modern Antichrist candidate, and so has taken on the biblical role of the Antichrist. The biblical apocalypse has already been set in motion.

You can see my opinion on Donald Trump from various threads starting from my joining of this community in 2021, which are backed up by verifiable facts, whether you believe them or not. However, that is what I hope to convey here. Donald Trumps supporters have been greatly deceived to the point they practically worship him. Some literally do.

In this thread, I hope to prove once and for all the kind of person Donald Trump is, and I invite his supporters on this site to prove me wrong.

And so, let’s turn this into a game. Tell me your reasons for supporting Donald Trump, and I will show you precisely how you have been deceived.
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I wonder what happened to the original Joe Biden, as the current one seems like a human clone, produced in the deep underground, DUMB, military bases, who's aging excessively rapidly and can hardly control his mind, his speech, his step and his bowels.
 
Odrade said:
I wonder what happened to the original Joe Biden, as the current one seems like a human clone, produced in the deep underground, DUMB, military bases, who's aging excessively rapidly and can hardly control his mind, his speech, his step and his bowels.
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He’s the same Biden… That’s just what happens when you get old. Trump is the same. Have you listened to his speeches?
 

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