Re: HDRKid II
You do do ya? Well let's let the prosecution have it's rebuttal.
(In my best Perry Masonesque prosecutorial voice) Now Mr. Dingleberry, do you mind if I call you Dingle? I'd like to go over some of your prior testimony if you don't mind. Let's begin with something puzzling about your latest prediction regarding the OILCANE shall we.
Your responses are all in bold.
How exactly did you acquire this HDR induced vision since on the other thread you state categorically:
Pg 6 post 59
"There is a block from 2010-2015. I think that something big will happen in 2012, but I cannot access this date.
OOOPS. Operator error huh? And by the way, let's dispense with the I used RV instead of HDR argument since you are on record as saying:
“Remember, RV is even more inaccurate than astral using HDR. Pg 20 Post 194”
Let's move on, we have much ground to cover. Now, Mr. Dingle, did you or did you not say, in the same early 2004
post 59, stae the following
“Usually I aim for low divergences lines so I have some idea of what the future will be like.”
“This is what I have pieced together. The US falls apart after Kerry is elected in Nov 2004. There is a civil war in 2005 that gets worse and worse. The elections in 2008 are the last elections the US as we know it has. After that there is a military government.”
Well, well, It seems rather fortuitous that Mr. Kerry was not elected in 2004. Think of the mess we would have had to clean up. Here is also an interesting point to ponder, you mention the 2008 elections as being the last. With that kind of knowledge, why not mention the election of our first black president. I'm sure it would have made all the major news outlets of the future. Kind of wants to make you go Hmmmm. Of course, you deftly protected yourself by also stating this a few pages later:
"There are timelines where the president was Clark, Dole, Dean, Kemp, Kerry, McCain, and even Bush." pg 10 post 91
Goddamn Scooter! I'm all for covering your ass but is there anyone who you didn't see as president? Oh yeah, Hillary and Obama. Wonder why? Certainly not because there was little mention if any about them running. Why that would lend credence to the debunkers claim that you scour the web for "future" predictions. Posh! Although, you know, since you mention McCain, a little mention of Palin would have given you some chops. Oh,thats right, she was nowhere in political sight then.
Whew, all of this is making me thirsty. How about a tall, cold glass of Coke Blaque or perhaps a frosty Viktory Cola? But, I digress. Let's move on. Earlier in the same post you state the following:
"Notice that I like to use the HDR to go back to the 1920's, not the 1820's. There is no electricity in the 1820's. Also electricity in the 2100's and beyond uses 400 cycles instead of 60 cycles. You need 60 cycle 115V AC for the HDR to operate."
Just a mere 9 posts later you offer the following question/answer:
pg 10 post 100
“1. Have you ever seen the 1700's and 1800's?
Yes, the people are a lot nicer and seem more formal than now.”
Would a mere, derisive yet formal , WTF??? suffice here? Can’t travel to the 1800’s but you know the people well. Alrighty then.
Annnd we're moving. In October 2004, you jumped on your magic pony and offered forth trhe following on
Page 21 Post 201:
“BTW, I made a jump today to June 2009, and Kerry was president. It appears that he was re-elected. However, in this timeline Putin had become dictator, and was trying to re-create the old Soviet Union. He had absorbed several former Soviet Republics including Kazakstan and Ukraine. I was only there for less than an hour but I saw on a flat panel TV (Wide Angle) that Putin was no longer friendly with the US and had designs on obtaining additional land.
United Europe promised war if he invaded Poland. Putin claimed part of Finland as SOVIET territory, and he also was trying to install his puppets in former east block countries. He cracked down on any and all dissent. The US was trying to keep Russia from coming to blows with China. It seems that Putin was attempting to aid North Korea with new weapons. The new Premier of China was called Zhang.”
Gosh, Putin turned out to be somewhat shady? Who knew? Other than you and the majority of the informed world. Guess he gave Finland, Ukraine and Kazikstan back huh? Amazing that with all this future knowledge about Russian aggression, you forgot to mention the aggression in Georgia. Weird huh? Still waiting for the premier of Premier Zhang. Let's continue....
“Somehow things seemed a bit gloomy on this timeline. Not as many malls, and people were driving small cars.”
“The US economy was recovering, but nothing like the boom period of the 1990's. Gasoline was expensive $5.50 a gallon, but no shortages. No talk about health care or social security, so I do not know about those issues. “
I love this one because, you, Dr. Doomass, purveyor of all that is doom and gloom, describe one of the worst economic times in the US as " a bit gloomy". Yeah, and you're a bit of a dumb....never mind. Wrong about the recovery, way wrong about the price of gas and my favorite, there was NO TALK ABOUT HEALTH CARE. Health care talk in 2009? Perish the thought! Must. Stop. Laughing. Uncontrollably.
“McDonalds had an ad for the new McCheeser sandwich with three kinds of cheese, a new McBacon Deluxe, and McFritters. I also saw an ad for the new Volvo Turbo Magnum the 2010 model, it was fresh.
McCheeser? Sounds like something Mayor McCheese would release when he...well..cuts the cheese. Even if this were true, who would care? Really.
“Kerry got the US out of Europe, Asia, & Middle East but new major problems were on the horizon. India was having a military dispute with Russia, (surprise) and PM Rao was able to target his 100 launchers at major "soviet" cities.”
Swing and a miss McCheeser knocker. No Kerry. Still in Europe, Asia and Middle East. No India-Russia conflict and I'm pretty sure that Indian PM Rao had been dead for about 5 years at this point. Gosh Scooter, guess you ain't a better man than Gunga Din.
Let's sum this up with some choice nuggets from
Page 22 post 214:
"The 2009 timeline was so close to ours that it was scary. I mean there were minor differences in my house, but nothing major. I can tell you that High Definition TV is common and affordable in 2009. How, I had one in the living room, and another in my bedroom....Well, I can tell you that on no timelines did I see Nadir as pres. I have seen Dean, Gore, Cheney, Powell, Robinson, Clark, Kerry, Dole, and even Bush winning the 2004 election."
Actually Zippy, you saw everybody except the winners...and the runnerups. Good catch on that one. I'd give you the HD TV one but seeing that by then I already owned one along with a DirecTV HD DVR it tends to cheapen your awsomeness. You did correctly guess Ralph Nader would not be President. Wow, who would have guessed huh? I mean you run for office starting in 1972 you figure the odds are with you. Nevertheless, congrats on this one. Dead on. Oh, and BTW, you misspelled his name.Poor Ralph, he don't get no respect.
Further on your 2009 vision:
From Pg 24 Post 236
“I wish I could tell you that Pepsi comes out with a new grape fizzy, but in my jump yesterday to 2009. I tried to go back to see what was happening. What I saw left me quite sad.
There was a train station full of people leaving the cities. I saw people hugging and crying. Pres Kerry gave the order for people to leave the big cities and go to temp shelters away from high population zones. Many people chose to stay, but put their children on trains that would send their children far away.”
No grape fizzy? Bastards! BTW, if you're evacuating the city for fear of nukes and fallout is a railroad really the quickest, most efficient way?
Highways were jammed with people leaving the cities. It was a sight I will never forget. The look of sadness on people's faces.
Guess the highway' was jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power ride. Looks like everybody was on the road that with no place left to hide. How dare those Russians interrupt such as Springsteenesque moment. Goddamn Philistine! Heathen bastards! Oh! Hold the phone! They never came! Tough break Scooter. Maybe you can still talk ol Wendy into wrappin her legs round those velvet rims and strap her hands cross your magnet. Take her down to Thunder Road. Show her your rubbing plate.
“Many people think the HDR is a toy and this is all a game, but for me this is a very sad day. I always wanted to know what happened in the future, and now that I know I wish I never found out.”
Well, actually, apparently you still haven't found out.
Don't fret Scooter. Even Nostradamus had a bad day. Maybe not as many as you but still...Let's see how 2005 went for you.
T
he 2005 Year
Pg 69 Post 685 "In our timeline we tolerate the odd rockstar, but although you can be a bit unorthodox, if you are out and out weird like Michael Jackson, you end up in jail. oooopps.."
Ooooops indeed!
Pg 69 Post 690 "You won't be laughing so hard when Bush starts drafting people for Iran"
Can we just go ahead and concede this one. I'm pretty sure at this point Congress won't let him.
Pg 70 Post 692 "Using astral time travel I saw that gasoline will be 4-5 a gallon by the end of 2007, this will completely destroy our economy and explains why we need Iran."
Uhhh...No, No and No. Another dimwit hat trick.
Pg 70 Post 697 "Starlord, Not a threat, just an observation that you will not be laughing at me in 2007."
Yeah...about that...actually he was... And in 2008, 2009 and now for a consecutive 3rd year, 2010.
Directed at me
Pg 117 Post 1170 The problem is that you are not preparing for a global war because you do not see it, not yet. Yes, people talked about WWIII back in the 50's, but the Russians did not feel cornered back then. They do now. I did not expect this outcome. I always thought the we could all resolve our differences, but the HDR showed me that the future is very dark indeed.
Saying that I am a liar is your way of using denial. The future gets worse because people fail to confront the problems. Right now Bsh is getting ready to invade Iran, he is claiming that the tangos are hiding in Iran and that Iran is working on the bomb, but the real reason is that we need oil.
Actually I was calling you a liar because I think you're a liar. Had nothing to do with denial. Bush didn't invade Iran, nor call for a draft. Their oil isn't enough to matter in the long run. All of this makes you either a liar or delusional.
Pg 132 Post 1319 on July 12th 2005
Did a jump to Friday July 15, 2005. At midnight, in front of the bookstore, there was a huge crowd of teens waiting for the doors to open. They started selling Harry Potter books. People ran in and started grabbing books. The owner said "This is crazy!" People started opening them and yelling things. The cover was orange instead of green but looked about the same. Title was "Harry and the half blood prince." One girl shouted "Snape dies, Dumbodork lives." Why Severus Snape would die is beyond me. I expected the old headmaster to die. Also Ron died. More news when I get it, I will attempt another jump today.
How much divergence can you get in a three day jump? Hells bells Margaret, there was some serious betting that the old guy would die and you killed everybody but him. I'm torn between laughable and pathetic. Perhaps I'l just go with snickering pity.
Hi PE:
which is our next country to invade and on which date kid?
I suppose u mean the US. The US under Bsh will invade Iran in 2006. Reason is that we need the oil. Excuse is that we must stop "taerists".
Good thing you started up with the bird flu shortly after this. Somebody might have called your hand on this whole Bush-Iran-draft thing.
Well Zippy, I think we'll wrap this up. Hopefully we've managed to cover the majority of your greatest hits from 2004-2005. Not exactly star quality material is it? In fact, after I read through all of this, I'm inclined to believe that YOU are the biggest debunker when it comes to the veracity, accuracy and reliability of the HDR. Hard to argue with this kind of track record. So, in my best legal tenor I say:
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury after the evidence presented here, the people have shown beyond a reasonable doubt and with a preponderance of the evidence, that the defendant, Mr. Nostradoomass, is guilty on all counts of felony stupid and third degree idiocy.
I rest my case.
PS Maybe you can get a pardon from President HitleryKerryDeanGoreCheneyPowellRobinsonClarkKerryDoleBush