No bullshit - I am from 2039 and I'm here to help you

Ayasano said:
Brian Jung said:
Ayasano said:
They don't, that was my point. The idea in General Relativity is that time travel is possible via closed timelike curves. A hallway that loops back on itself while only ever seeming to move forward would be a closed spacelike curve. A CTC is like that, but with time. It's basically just a loop in time.
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In multi-world interpreation of quantum physics, Relativity Theory does not work? Nobody tells like that.
If it does, MWI even could not be born.
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That's not strictly true. GR works at large scales, QM works at very small scales. This is based on experimental evidence. The trouble is figuring out how the two interact. It's like wave-particle duality. Photons behave like particles in one situation and waves in another. In truth, they're neither, but describing them as particles and waves is what we have to work with until we figure out exactly what they are.
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GR and QM are not comparable things. And moreover your opinion that QM works at very small scales is just yours. Even several years ago, uncertainty priciple was observed and validated for 430 atoms. And please Google quantum mechanics at large scale or macroscale. There are lots of validated papers that QM works at macroscale.

You do not have to think when uncertainty principle works at macroscale, things disappear instantly. There are lots of particles and atoms so the effect is diminished.
 
Cosmo said:
Ayasano said:
Cosmo said:
If you're going to pretend to be a time traveler, at least have a convincing story. Do your homework. Take some creative writing courses or watch some good sci-fi. Go down to Good Will and cannibalize some blenders, sandwich makers and old computers to show us your "time machine". Put some effort in to it. Sheesh.
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You don't even have to put that much effort in. The HDR photos have a bunch of capacitors not connected to anything and people still fall for it.
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I used to be an IT manager and have a garage FULL of old computers. If I cobbled together some kind of silicon monstrosity full of capacitors, processors, heat-sinks and whatever else I could scavenge and claimed to be from 2055, people would shit their pants.
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hahaha. At least give something for people to debunk, right?
 
Ayasano said:
Cosmo said:
Brian Jung said:
Sounds like a plan but you did not consider his parents or family are rich.
Otherwise possibility of rent. Skeptical approach is the best tool for rational analysis but needs compliment.
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I did consider it, but dismissed it.

  1. Scientists create ONLY 10 time machines; presumably the only ones in existence
  2. Scientists say "Eh, fuck it. Let's put them on eBay and see who bids"
  3. Mr. Brady here somehow has enough cash to outbid the other 9 billion people on the planet
  4. No country's government cares about this

Even if this guy is Bill Gate's secret love child, there is zero chance that these supposed time machines aren't snatched up by leading world powers.

It's not skepticism if it's common sense.
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As if they'd even be made public in the first place. Someone would swoop in and black everything out.
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I wonder why governments have to take care of this if there are no side-effects.
It can not change their past so their timeline is stable.
Which means it belongs to sightseeing or travel for now.
 
Brian Jung said:
I wonder why governments have to take care of this if there are no side-effects.
It can not change their past so their timeline is stable.
Which means it belongs to sightseeing or travel for now.
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Mainly because there's a significant chance it would affect the current timeline. Better safe than sorry, right?
 
Brian Jung said:
GR and QM are not comparable things. And moreover your opinion that QM works at very small scales is just yours. Even several years ago, uncertainty priciple was observed and validated for 430 atoms. And please Google quantum mechanics at large scale or macroscale. There are lots of validated papers that QM works at macroscale.

You do not have to think when uncertainty principle works at macroscale, things disappear instantly. There are lots of particles and atoms so the effect is diminished.
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I should clarify, the core issue is reconciling the force of gravity with how QM works. The large/small scale description is a generalization to make it easier to explain to people. If you google "quantum gravity" you can find a lot of information on the subject.
 
Quantum gravity is just compromise and only for gravity itself not for the interaction between GT and QM.
Time loop and time travel can not be explained just with gravity stuffs.
 
Ayasano said:
Brian Jung said:
GR and QM are not comparable things. And moreover your opinion that QM works at very small scales is just yours. Even several years ago, uncertainty priciple was observed and validated for 430 atoms. And please Google quantum mechanics at large scale or macroscale. There are lots of validated papers that QM works at macroscale.

You do not have to think when uncertainty principle works at macroscale, things disappear instantly. There are lots of particles and atoms so the effect is diminished.
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I should clarify, the core issue is reconciling the force of gravity with how QM works. The large/small scale description is a generalization to make it easier to explain to people. If you google "quantum gravity" you can find a lot of information on the subject.
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Quantum gravity is just compromise and only for gravity itself not for the interaction between GT and QM.
Time loop and time travel can not be explained just with gravity stuffs.
 

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