Phoenix Mars lander

[kcwildman]

Re: Phoenix Mars Lander

well when they start makin martines I believe its ice. could be anything, like co2, hell they can just go to the fridg and get some more to throw infront of the vid. lens for us to wow at

 

[Num7]

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Man, do you still think these pictures are from Universal Studios ? hahaha

 

[kcwildman]

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yeh I do I don't trust NASA to tell me the truth ever. your in school huh try this go to the star gazers class and have the proffessor point the tellascope at the moon and take some pics of the stuff we left behind. and then watch him turn white as a goast. its not aloud and they will not do it or say why they won't I have tryed. go on just try. but be ready to catch hell for it

 

[Num7]

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Really ?
I'm not sure to get this one. If they try to look, what are they going to see ?
And also, I guess you don't know why they wouldn't want to look ?

Num7

 

[kcwildman]

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try to get them to take some pics of the moon rover and the flag and the lander module. we left them there rite. well we should be able to see them then huh???? we can read the name tag on a shirt from a satalite cam. we should be able to see the landing site on the moon with a tellascope then huh???? don't push the issue but make the request and watch what happens.

 

[Num7]

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Yeah, it makes sense. If I can clearly see you in your backyard with a satellite, then we must see some stuff on the moon.

They can't say that they landed on the other side of the moon. It would have been impossible to find a land site there, since we don't see it at all.

Sounds good.

 

[kcwildman]

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yeh that, and all the NASA pics are from the sunny side, not the dark side. and since we alway see the same side. and the earth was in the background we should be able to see somthin. but realy thow guy don't make a issue if it. just be curious and accept there answer no matter how stupid it sounds.

 

[Num7]

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Water ice again !

Ice on Mars an important breakthrough

The prospect that life did once exist, still exists and could be sustained in the future on Mars has taken a huge step forward with the confirmation that water ice has been found on the planet.

Water is an essential ingredient for life to survive - without it most of the biological processes needed for life to exist cannot take place.

With the discovery that water is locked in the Martian soil as ice, it makes theories the planet was a much wetter place with liquid water its surface in the past far more likely.

Under these conditions, primitive life could have evolved and - more excitingly - it could still be hanging on in tiny pockets beneath the surface.
For scientists who have spent their careers studying Mars, there could not be a more exciting time to be carrying out their work.

The idea that the planet could have in its past have harboured life, or might still do so, would have been dismissed as a crank in the years that followed the Viking missions to the planet in the 1970s.

Those missions found Mars to be a harsh, dry and sterile place, but more recent and contrasting evidence has enabled the prospect of life on Mars to grow into a mainstream theory among planetary scientists.

Actually obtaining direct samples of life on Mars, however, will be a difficult process.

The traditional tests used to find colonies of bacteria here on Earth involve growing the organism in a laboratory and then identifying it.

Doing such experiments with a robotic lander will be much harder and will instead rely upon searching for key chemicals and gases produced by living organisms.

There is, of course, also the difficulty in finding the right places to take samples from in the first place.

With the water on Mars locked up as ice under the soil, life could be sparse indeed if it is still there, and scientists say it will be like looking for a needle in a planet-sized haystack.

For future missions, the confirmation of water ice on the planet is incredibly important.

Water is heavy and difficult to transport, but for astronauts to set foot on Mars and to establish a base there, as Nasa hopes they will, will require water for them to survive.

Instead of carrying water to the planet in their spacecraft, astronauts may be able to purify water from the ice beneath the soil and use that.

It could provide significant benefits and free up vital space on the first human missions for other equipment and supplies.

So even if the ice on Mars has not supported life on the planet in the past, it certainly could in the future.

Ice on Mars an important breakthrough - Telegraph

 

[Num7]

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Friday June 27, 04:02 PM

Martian soil good enough for asparagus: NASA

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Martian dirt is apparently good enough for asparagus to grow in, NASA scientists said Thursday, as they announced the results of a soil analysis collected by the US Phoenix Mars lander.

"There is nothing about the soil that would preclude life. In fact it seems very friendly," said Samuel Kounaves, the project's lead chemist at the University of Arizona in a telephone press conference.

"The soil you have there is the type of soil you have in your backyard," said Kounaves. "You may be able to grow asparagus very well."
The analysis is based on a cubic centimeter of soil scooped up by the lander's robotic arm and introduced into one of its eight ovens, where it was gradually heated up to 1,000 degrees Celsius.

Kounaves said his team was "flabbergasted" at the results that came back.
"We basically have found what appears to be the requirements of the nutrients to support life, past, present or future," said Kounaves.
Scientists found elements in the soil that included magnesium, potassium and sodium. "There are probably other mineral species, we are still working on data," he said.

Kounaves said the analysis results are "one more piece of evidence that there were liquid water action at some point in the history of Mars."
"It's very similar to the soil analysis results we got from some dried places on Earth -- this is the very exciting part," Kounaves said.

The sample is from the surface soil that scientists say covers a layer of ice.

On June 20 NASA scientists announced that the Phoenix Mars lander confirmed a long-held belief that ice is hiding under the surface in the Red Planet's northern region.

The lander's robotic arm started digging trenches into Martian soil after touching down near the planet's north pole on May 25, revealing a white substance that scientists had said was ice.

"The specific data coming out of instrument has just been spectacular," said William Boynton from the University of Arizona, the lead Thermal and Evolved Gas Analyzer (TEGA) scientist.

Scientists found no ice in the sample -- not surprising, Boyton said, because it was a surface sample and had been sitting on the TEGA oven for several days, during which time any ice would have evaporated.

Boyton said that scientists had detected small amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2) on the surface of the soil particles. This carbon dioxide was released at low temperature in the furnace, while at higher temperatures, the TEGA oven detected a "modest" amount of vapor.

"What we can say now is that the soil clearly has interacted with water in the past, but we don't know whether that interaction occurred in this particular area in the northern region or if it might have happen elsewhere" and the soil blown over to the site where the Phoenix landed.

NASA scientists said they will analyze ice fragments in the TEGA oven over the next weeks.

If the ice contains impurities the results could speak volumes of the climate history in that area of the Red Planet.

Mars is currently too cold for water to flow, but it is possible that in a distant past the polar regions saw higher temperatures, according to the scientists.

Phoenix's mission is to search for water and organic components to see if a primitive form of life was possible on Mars.

The Phoenix probe does not have the instrument necessary to detect micro-organisms.

Martian soil good enough for asparagus: NASA - Yahoo!Xtra News

 

[kcwildman]

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well hell yes it will grow veggies, they just burned the set from the appallo crap. that dirt its full of fresh new-tree-ants huh???? ha ha ha
I don't believe NASA can find there own ass with a flashlite and a road map.