Russia vs Ukraine, what's going to happen?

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alpha centauri

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To this I have only one single remark, which is my own opinion: I would divide EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY on the planet into let us say “western” and “eastern” (not necessary cardinal points), such as East Germany – West Germany, North Korea – South Korea, etc. and let the people decide absolutely free where to move and to live. It is with 100% certainty that “bad” things would start happening ONLY in some of the “western” sides and between western sides of different countries.
Both systems have good and bad sides.
There has to be a some kind of unity between Communism and Capitalism and a worldwide social security without surveillance. The system does not work how it is at the moment, At the moment, only the strong countries benefit. And the strong have to exploit the weak in a way to be successful and that is not good.
 
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start at edge

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Both systems have good and bad sides.
There has to be a some kind of unity between Communism and Capitalism and a worldwide social security without surveillance. The system does not work how it is at the moment, At the moment, only the strong countries benefit. And the strong have to exploit the weak in a way to be successful and that is not good.
It is what I’ve been saying for ages …
… and yes, both systems have good and bad sides, only from what can be seen in reality, it seems that one of them has 99% of bad sides and 1% of good sides – while the other has 1% of bad sides and 99% of good sides … now it is up to every individual to see which one is which.
 

alpha centauri

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is what I’ve been saying for ages …
… and yes, both systems have good and bad sides, only from what can be seen in reality, it seems that one of them has 99% of bad sides and 1% of good sides – while the other has 1% of bad sides and 99% of good sides … now it is up to every individual to see which one is which.
Hm China is also very authoritarian with vaccination and lockdown and they are officially Communist, although their system is not really that they are still more Socialist than the West in my opinion . They belong to the East.

The authoritarian side is negative in the Eastern system.

Bad is the control system with a strong hierarchy and good the free will system.
 
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OakFieldAlienz444

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Hm China is also very authoritarian with vaccination and lockdown and they are officially Communist, although their system is not really that they are still more Socialist than the West in my opinion . They belong to the East.

The authoritarian side is negative in the Eastern system.

Bad is the control system with a strong hierarchy and good the free will system.

I used to be obsessed with good and evil. Eventually you realize it's not really so much about
good and evil as it is survival and common sense. And one mans good is another mans evil. To some authoritarianis the right to oppress others is literally how they define "freedom" and it gets really murky and complicated, with some
people benefiting from an overall bad system and not being told or realizing how it is excluding others, causing
some people to like fascism, crony capitalism and communism etc. so they'll fight to the death
for an evil system believing it's good.
That big ugly rat in your kitchen stealing all the cheese and peanut butter you bought with your hard earned
cash and stealing your stove is a "evil" to be dealt with some would say but the cat you buy to eat
the rat? To the rat that cat is the evil preventing it from imbibing in cheese and peanut butter.
Russia is very wrong to be bombing civilians. But do we really believe that's the sole reason that
the United States and others is considering war with it when we've done that all through our history
with the arab countries like Iraq and Yemen and not to mention the Japanese?
If we had a shinier history of never bombing civilians it would make more people
particularly angry with Putin but we don't.
There's lots of stuff going on and we'll never know what's really going on imo.
There are dictators and then there's groups that try to "keep dictators in line" usually so that group
itself can mantain a sense of control--just on a more global scale and not national.
So control can be both "good" and "bad" but it ultimately just
depends on which people you personally like more cuz all the systems do immoral things to
an extent.

The United States is so divided right now if we're talking about splitting things up that's what would ironically would probably fix the problem. Just give everyone their own little island of people that agree with them.

Good is generally speaking the better side to be on because it generates a system of like attracting like
and "I scratch your back you scratch mine" treat others how you would want to be treated sort of thing which
causes more prosperity love and peace for everyone. Satanism and Paganism take the survival thing too far and Christianity and other religions take the "you have to always be perfect even at your own expense" thing too far and both are wrong in a way---kind of like Jedi and Sith.
You can serve yourself AND others. Service to self can also be GENERATED by service to others,
something religions and Star Wars movies won't tell you.

And Satanists don't seem to realize that when everyone thrives you'll thrive too, fight
or flight is only necessary cuz a lot of people are not nice generally speaking.

Good without being self-righteous and obsessed with how good you are combined with just rational sanity is the best way to go. No one is fully good or fully evil we've all had sick thoughts etc.
 
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start at edge

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To my brave brothers and sisters from Russia, from Donetsk Republic, from Lugansk Republic, from Transnistria Republic and to all those with Russian heart, soul and spirit, from all over the world:
HAPPY VICTORY DAY !!!


Whole Donbass is back home, under Mother Russia care and protection.
Sincere condolences to those who lost their loved ones – those heroes did not die in vane, from above they’re watching their dream come true – DONBASS IS BACK HOME !!!
 
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Noah_A_S

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You can still watch the full victory day parade here:


However, I do not think that "HAPPY VICTORY DAY !!!" is exactly the phrase I had in mind after watching this. Probably something to do with the severity of the fascist dictatorship is, though, yes - that's more like it.
 
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That probably would have been my impression too if I would have relied on what “The Telegraph” desperately tries to tell me … fortunately, I didn’t listen and I’m not going to – I don’t watch crap media.
I watched the parade from normal, sane, free TV stations.
 
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Noah_A_S

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Yeah umm you do realize that's about the same exact thing, right? The only difference is I can rewind it with my mouse and keyboard instead of remote control. That's about it.
 
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