Weather Control, Square Clouds and Chemtrails

[StarLord]

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I have often suspected that it was the military fooling around with manipulating the weather that burned a hole in the ozone layer. I just can't see hairspray and gas from cows doing that.

 

[Atreyu]

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Hello,

I live in south florida palm beach county. I have noticed they are gridding the sky here. I have taken photos. also site specific for two hurricanes landfall within 1 mile of one another. Coincidentally, Scripps Research Institute is planning a new massive facility here with all kinds of new "cutting edge" technology. Scripps and DARPA thru google=21,000+ matches. Scripps + HAARP=528 matches(whales and hundreds of thousands of Pacific sealife destroyed) Another coincidence 60 plus, deep water dolphins of the more than 120 that had beached themselves in the Keys have died, this as recently as 3/05, Navy sonar testing had been occuring prior to this tragedy. That was bad enough, now weather modification/time travel Scripps is playing it. Corporations doing the governments bidding, all under cover of security and now with "Bio shield" the mother of all evil genie's has left the bottle. The truth is out there. Perhaps Occam's razor should be brought to bear here?

 

[CaryP]

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Welcome to the plantation Atreyu, and thanks for the update from south Florida. Interesting and somewhat disturbing stuff here.

Cary

 

[BubbuClinton]

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I have good news. Apparently we have nothing to worry about. I wrote a letter to my local weatherman and got this response:

don't know how to answer the question about the right angle clouds without seeing them. ?There could be some extreme shear winds that can have the effect to one looking from the ground that the clouds square.

Whether or not an aircraft will produce a contrail depends on a lot of variables. Winds, humidity and temperature at various altitudes may or may not make a contrail. You may notice that contrails are not seen every day, and even with very cold days, contrails may not be observed. But we know that airliners are constantly crossing our skies every day. ?
Some believe that there must be some nefarious plans about planes dumping chemicals in the atmosphere, but that is not true. The reason the patterns might be crisscrossed is because of the flight routes and altitudes the planes are flying.

I had a professor years ago who was a weather forecaster during WWII, and part of his duties was to tell the bomber pilots which altitude to fly so they would not create contrails, and thus be seen by the enemy anti-aircraft units.

I hope this is helpful.

Keith Merrill
KSL meteorlogist

My letter was the following:

I have 2 quick questions. I drive an hour to work each morning. A lot of the time I like to look at cloud formations and such. I have always been interested in weather. ?Well, I have noticed a couple of things.
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1) I have noticed within the last year or so, I see a lot of clouds with Square edges. ?They are the shape of a Right Angle or sometimes completely square. ?I was just wondering about the physics of how this happens in clouds. ?I have some pictures if you would like to see them. I can't figure out how to get square edges in liquid based formations. So I guess I must be missing something. ?I would love to know how it works.
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2) ?I have also noticed that certain type of air craft leave great big contrails in the sky. ?I see about 12 to 15 of these everyday flying in parallel lines. ?At first, I thought they must be high jets or something stirring up the upper atmosphere. However, some of these are really low and the trails blossom into long lines of clouds. I have noticed that the commercial jets flying at the same basic altitude don't make the trails. ?Also, I have noticed that the planes fly in different directions. ?It looks like they make a grid or something over time in the sky. ?Do you guys know what these planes are doing? I have notice we don't have blue skies anymore over Park City. ?It is always a white haze now days.
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I would be extremely interested in answers to these questions. ?
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Thanks for the great weather coverage.

It good to know that they are on top of things. It is very assuring.

Bubbu

 

[StarLord]

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Bubbu, I see you attended the same class in double entendre that I did......

Correct me if I missed something, That post regarding HAARP and other sundrie items, they mention ULF Ultra Low Frequency Submarine Communication in Michigan and Wisconsin. Exactly how many Subs do you think are 'patrolling' in the Great Lakes because of all the nasty Terrs. involved in clandestine activities.....

As Both Wisconsin and Michigan are effectively 'Landlocked' in regards to being next to the sea, unless one is emitting ULF in the sea proper, what good would it be to play with it in the great lakes? How could it possibly effect Venezuela's weather??

I can see it confusing some of the fish in the lakes, but elsewhere?

 

[Atreyu]

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Hello,
FAA orlando doesn't handle any pollutants coming out of jets (Virginia Lane 407-812-6331 ext129 . I was given EPA Atlanta and I spoke to John Hamilton 404-562-9617 they have absolutly no enforcement nor do they have any guidelines as to the particulate matter released and they have no idea what is being spewed he assured me it was not harmful. this as I to sit in a milky haze. I have watched these last weeks, these jets leaving the trail and it would actually unfurl, and veil the sky. Its been going on for some time, I understand, and I think we should work to stop it no? This is not ultra-violet protection this is bio/psych war experimentation coupled with the communication capabilities. Check this link http://www.onr.navy.mil/oas/reports/docs/o...03/omhodgk1.pdf
comments?

 

[Zoomerz]

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The link you site speaks about underwater transmission reconstruction using sonar arrays. I guess I'm just a little baffled how you move from jet pollutants and weather manipulation to communications and intercept capabilities? Please enlighten on the tie-in.

Thanks!
Z-

 

[Atreyu]

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The grid pattern seems to have more of a purpose than just hazing the sky. the arrays are also towed in the ocean in a grid pattern. certainly the particles could be reflective of more than just gases. one theory suggests ozone creation using this particulate. I never suggested intercept. as to (time reversal) that is what they called it.Certainly the first thing to experiment in time reversal would be sound, wouldn't it? You can digitize it,no? I felt it suggests a lot about what so called not for profit researchers do with taxpayer money.the tie in seems pretty obvious..perhaps you could consider my first comments on 3/14. Jet pollutants?Perhaps one thing at a time. Whats in the Chemtrails,Zoomerz?

 

[Zoomerz]

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I never suggested intercept. as to (time reversal) that is what they called it.

Yes, I interpolated the word "intercept" from the time reversal concept, as a goal. In short, another means of communications intercept.

The grid pattern seems to have more of a purpose than just hazing the sky.

It's an interesting parallel you suggest, I'm not saying it's not possible. I just wasn't sure how you were connecting the dots (if you will). I do believe that the patterns have a definite purpose, albeit a weather manipulation one most likely. Bubbu is fairly knowledgeable of all the "professional" evidence (forecasters, scientist, etc), and has some fairly "plausible" explanations as to why.

Remember the old days when in-flight magazines had maps of flight paths? They sure didn't (and still don't to my knowledge) appear in right angles. The ones we're all seeing certainly do.

I wasn't trying to discount your observation either, Atreyu, it's certainly not impossible. Fact is, I'd never heard of the sound/time reversal/medium intercept extraction experiments at all. Interesting in it's own right, without the linkup with this thread. Maybe we should start another specifically to keep track here?

Certainly the first thing to experiment in time reversal would be sound, wouldn't it? You can digitize it,no? I felt it suggests a lot about what so called not for profit researchers do with taxpayer money.

Yes, I'd agree with that. Sound is a medium we have a great understanding of the physics. It would be a logical constant while trying to prove other parts of the theory. As for what non-profit researchers do with taxpayer money, although I'd agree there are some pretty shaky grants (and almost always have been), the fact is that these time reversal experiments are being conducted by the U.S. Military, a defense organization, not a non-profit. I would consider this a "valid" use of taxpayer money.

Whats in the Chemtrails,Zoomerz?

Now you got me! I have no idea. If you asked my opinion, I'd say chemicals that:

a) are directly related to producing/reducing moisture particles with the implied objective of directly manipulating weather within a predefined area.

B) have predictible reactions to laser manipulation in an effort to accomplish a).

I, for one, think the answers to many questions relating to these con/chemtrails lies in finding out WHO is doing it. That would pretty much tell us "why", and where to go to find out "what".

Z-

 

[Atreyu]

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Thanks for taking the time to respond. I have come into this debate somewhat late, better late than never? Based on the two calls I made I can tell you the two agencies most closely linked to this, FAA and EPA don't know don't seem to care, in fact I was one of the few times they ever even had the inquiry. Now based on the sheer size of these things we know that many people must be seeing it, that kinda brings the psych part of it into it for me at least. Listen I am no expert I have way more questions then answers. What I read on the Internet certainly needs some filtration, again for me at least. As I wrote earlier Scripps is building a massive facility and at the Governors behest and with 800 million in taxpayer funds a huge "Bio village" Scrippopolis is to spring up pretty much in my front yard. I felt and feel it was in my interest to learn about Scripps, they are the largest not-for-profit research institute on land and sea in the world. they do a great deal of freaky research for DARPA and HAARP.(not to mention all the freaky work they have done for big tobacco) The scientific board of governors include specialists in "chaos theory" and the time travel. This is a serious "rogue corporation" its intent appears beneficial to mankind but the reality is the opposite. Corporations should not have the powers they do. consider Disney . It has its own district to make all its own laws regarding planning and zoning. Imagine a Corporation having these powers. Now how does this tie in to Chemtrails? At the root of this is some company shielding the people doing this, making, delivering, spraying etc... "Who" is a psuedo,quasi,military, SAIC, Halliburton type thing, but global, did you per chance read the guy who develops the formulas for the ****, and he says its UV oriented and mucho devastation would happen if this was not done, many Countries etc are involved ,ultimately this will happen anyway, this guy (he won't identify himself he's on holmstead website) believes it is just a stall because we will not be able to sustain it, or as he put it other problems would prioritize so it would be Global eh? does this sound plausible? The grid pattern of these trails could be a type of net? Logically if we know they have been studying time travel for some time, eventually, unfortunately someone will get it. It boils down to the type of machine built and the anchor point. The reality is we can't go back further then a working net or reception point built to catch what was returned,no? what do you think?