Why time travellers aren't talking here

[Harte]

I did look at a few of GC's other posts and I'm not the only one he/she has attacked here.

I am guilty of falling into the trappings of defense, as well....I'm not all Lightness and shine when offended in such a manner.

I admit it.

Mayhem did remove one of the more offensive GC posts....Thankfully.

I've had that poster on ignore for a long time now. For good reason.
I suggest a liberal use of your ignore list. Some people don't deserve the attention they're crying out for.

Harte

 

[alpha centauri]

Regarding spiritualism, I'm in no position to judge. If a poster has faith - of any kind - then I respect that and I respect them for it (I have so little myself.) But if the poster wants to confirm their faith by using physical facts, then that's really not faith and I can certainly judge that, based on the facts.

For example, I see the commitment to Time Travel many posters here have as an article of faith. But many of those will try to use a bunch of hooey to justify that faith, which turns the faith to dust.
Same thing with proving the existence of the Ark (either one,) ancient advanced civilizations, ancient alien intervention, modern alien visitation, bigfoot, etc.

Yes that is true. It is ok to unify spirituality and science and be critical in my opinion. The problem with the HDR is in my opinion. They have those experiences and that is prove for them but not for you. But that is not science based otherwise you could reconstruct it.

The "prophets" in the religious books were nothing else than people that saw the astral plane and made their teachings of that. And they are as easily manipulated through these vision than the prophets of the past.
In my experience, atheist or people with less "spirituality" are rather disappointed because of those teaching. They are wrong for them and that is why they lose faith. Faith is a tool in my opinion. You have to believe that something works for it to work. The best example is the placebo effect and usual meditations. You gain faith through believing in it. But that behaviour can also deceive you.

And to those people that talk in paranormal forum: I know from an other forum that a lot of them have mental sicknesses, so a lot of them get angry very easily.

But these sicknesses usually opens the door for the paranormal. But the is not normal development. The normal development is to have these abilities without being sick. But those people know that the astral plane exist, because they have experienced it, so you cannot convince them otherwise as sceptic.

great job in moderating Num7...lots have messaged me with their observations.
lot of people are refusing to share their experiences cuz you gave up on the site.

I understand that. Usually, the spiritual people only want to share their experience with like-minded people. That is another problem. Sceptic people are not necessary. Their critic is sometimes insulting, that is why nobody wants to share their experiences, plus you cannot prove the experiences to others and that is why they are criticizing constantly. And that is not healthy for a forum.

I mean HDR users know it works, if they have experienced it. The same is true with spiritual experiences. The spritiual experiences can be reproduced as the experiences with the HDR, but not all people can experience it (they are probably not advanced enough). But if 10 or more people experience the same there is truth in it, in my opinion.

I've had that poster on ignore for a long time now. For good reason.
I suggest a liberal use of your ignore list. Some people don't deserve the attention they're crying out for.

Yes, I forgot that one such user is on this forum. That is what I meant with toxic behaviour, but those sceptics are the majority on other discussion boards.

 

[Wind7]

Harte said:
I've had that poster on ignore for a long time now. For good reason.
I suggest a liberal use of your ignore list. Some people don't deserve the attention they're crying out for.

You're right of course, Harte.
However...I have never been able to keep them on ignore.
Have to admit...In this one's case...I have NEVER felt more hated.


alpha centauri said:
Yes, I forgot that one such user is on this forum. That is what I meant with toxic behaviour, but those sceptics are the majority on other discussion boards.


Yes, one such person is on this forum. Someone whom is spreading hate against Christians in general
and has done so directly at myself utilizing lies about me publicly.

Do you think it's good for one to use this forum as a personal bully pulpit?

This is a Paranormal/TT forum.

My mind is very open...but I will defend myself if and where/when necessary.

 

[Harte]

Yes that is true. It is ok to unify spirituality and science and be critical in my opinion. The problem with the HDR is in my opinion. They have those experiences and that is prove for them but not for you. But that is not science based otherwise you could reconstruct it.

No one is having any time travel experiences with the HDR. Self delusion is not spirituality, nor does it constitute insight.

The "prophets" in the religious books were nothing else than people that saw the astral plane and made their teachings of that. And they are as easily manipulated through these vision than the prophets of the past.

You have exactly what everyone else on Earth has regarding those prophets you mention. The (purported) words of the prophets themselves.
I can see that you don't think the same way I do because generally speaking I don't try to take what someone said and reinterpret it to fit my preferred version of reality.
I take them at their word. I may not believe what they say, but I take what they say without turning it into some bastardized version of religion that I would prefer existence to exhibit.
This crap about the astral plane is nothing but an enormous ego evincing pride beyond redemption and is in no way religious or spiritual.

In my experience, atheist or people with less "spirituality" are rather disappointed because of those teaching. They are wrong for them and that is why they lose faith. Faith is a tool in my opinion. You have to believe that something works for it to work. The best example is the placebo effect and usual meditations. You gain faith through believing in it. But that behaviour can also deceive you.

That's not what faith is. Faith is belief for no real reason at all, not belief because something works for you.

And to those people that talk in paranormal forum: I know from an other forum that a lot of them have mental sicknesses, so a lot of them get angry very easily.

But these sicknesses usually opens the door for the paranormal. But the is not normal development. The normal development is to have these abilities without being sick. But those people know that the astral plane exist, because they have experienced it, so you cannot convince them otherwise as sceptic.



I understand that. Usually, the spiritual people only want to share their experience with like-minded people. That is another problem. Sceptic people are not necessary. Their critic is sometimes insulting, that is why nobody wants to share their experiences, plus you cannot prove the experiences to others and that is why they are criticizing constantly. And that is not healthy for a forum.

I mean HDR users know it works, if they have experienced it. The same is true with spiritual experiences. The spritiual experiences can be reproduced as the experiences with the HDR, but not all people can experience it (they are probably not advanced enough). But if 10 or more people experience the same there is truth in it, in my opinion.


Yes, I forgot that one such user is on this forum. That is what I meant with toxic behaviour, but those sceptics are the majority on other discussion boards.

You're in the same camp with the poster you refer to. As Wind7's link shows, you're both spouting a bunch of Gnostic BS.
That's fine, except you likely don't even know your doing it, know any sources or even know the history of the sort of thing you're claiming here. You want to be a "spiritual" Gnostic, then start reading Gnostic texts and dogma and see just who you are joining up with and make your arguments from a legitimate position - and leave the Bible out of it.

Harte

 

[Wind7]

@Wind7 take solace, the lyrics sort of coincide with a couple things you mentioned. I hope you understand who this is referring to

I was thinking of TnWatchdog when I saw this.
Thanks.

I miss him.

 

[Martian]

I was thinking of TnWatchdog when I saw this.
Thanks.

I miss him.

I don't remember reading or clicking "like" on this message. I'm geniunely creeped out.

 

[TimeFlipper]

No one is having any time travel experiences with the HDR. Self delusion is not spirituality, nor does it constitute insight.


You have exactly what everyone else on Earth has regarding those prophets you mention. The (purported) words of the prophets themselves.
I can see that you don't think the same way I do because generally speaking I don't try to take what someone said and reinterpret it to fit my preferred version of reality.
I take them at their word. I may not believe what they say, but I take what they say without turning it into some bastardized version of religion that I would prefer existence to exhibit.
This crap about the astral plane is nothing but an enormous ego evincing pride beyond redemption and is in no way religious or spiritual.

That's not what faith is. Faith is belief for no real reason at all, not belief because something works for you.


You're in the same camp with the poster you refer to. As Wind7's link shows, you're both spouting a bunch of Gnostic BS.
That's fine, except you likely don't even know your doing it, know any sources or even know the history of the sort of thing you're claiming here. You want to be a "spiritual" Gnostic, then start reading Gnostic texts and dogma and see just who you are joining up with and make your arguments from a legitimate position - and leave the Bible out of it.

Harte

Iam certain you know which of your statements i fully support you on Hartey ..

 

[Einstein]

I don't remember reading or clicking "like" on this message. I'm geniunely creeped out.

Two timelines converged. An alternate version of yourself did the deed. Or you might choose to accept the inevitable memory decline that gets to us all. Memory Glitch.

 

[PaulaJedi]

Two timelines converged. An alternate version of yourself did the deed. Or you might choose to accept the inevitable memory decline that gets to us all. Memory Glitch.

Memory decline -- ARGH!!! -- But assuming timeline changes makes us feel better!!!! (Yes, folks, I'm officially old. I hit 50 this month).
I do think timeline changes can be witnessed, but you do have a point. You have to rule out everything before assuming, and memory loss is sadly
a part of human life. I know too well, now. SIGH.

 

[TimeFlipper]

Memory decline -- ARGH!!! -- But assuming timeline changes makes us feel better!!!! (Yes, folks, I'm officially old. I hit 50 this month).
I do think timeline changes can be witnessed, but you do have a point. You have to rule out everything before assuming, and memory loss is sadly
a part of human life. I know too well, now. SIGH.

You are overlooking how stress can temporarily block out your memory recall...For example, How many times have you suddenly forgotten a persons name, and then later on the name suddenly comes back to you?....Another example would be blocking out a persons name that you dislike intensely..

The only real time for concern, is when a person forgets that they have forgotten something, if that happens to me, my sons will make the first steps to send an audio wave with a tiny amount of current running through it to break up the "plaque" that could be growing around the parts of my brains memory sections...I DO NOT ADVISE MEMBERS OR LURKERS TO TRY THAT WITHOUT FIRST CONSULTING A SPECIALIST//DOCTOR!!..

I will NOT be replying to anybody asking me questions on this subject in the forums or in a private conversation...