Is there any current confirmed TIME TRAVELERS ON HERE NOW???

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The_Observer

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Cirrus said:
C'mon, man. Make with the winner. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
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Sadly, you'd need a very advanced device to travel into the future, determine the probability of error factor to your origin, then determine the plausibility of that future in your worldline in order to determine future winners of events then somehow make it back to your origin worldline. I can only go into the future at a 1:1 ratio like everyone else - and even that ratio is subjective to perspective as time is relative not only to space-time but to perception as well.

And what kind of shoes you buying where you can't afford them without winning a bet?
 
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The_Observer said:
they would understand the workings of classical computers, but objects are products of their time and cannot necessarily be reproduced easily just because you have better or futuristic technology in comparison. Why do you think it is we don't make things today like we made them 100's of years ago? Because we are limited by our current technologies.

A good/stupid example is Apple iPhone. You have a sweet $500 Sennheiser headset but now you can't use your iPhone for music because it lacks a headphone jack. Limitation of current technologies. Meanwhile the iPhone supports wireless audio whereas your Sennheiser does not.
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How much construction effort is easier than building a time machine and sending a person back in time to retrieve technology that is outdated even in the time period the time traveler arrives in? There is little to nothing made 100 years ago that we don't know how to reproduce. It's simply a question of cost vs. return. In the case of Titor's explanation, duplicating 1960's tech would be exponentially cheaper, easier, and faster than sending a guy back in time to retrieve it. They can build a time travel device but they can't duplicate a silly, primitive 1960's computer?

Beyond even that, software on future computers could EASILY be written to duplicate ANY functionality of the computer in question - including a full-scale emulator that would load and run any executables that would run on the computer being sought.

NONE of that story makes ANY sense.
 
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MindUnderMatter said:
How much construction effort is easier than building a time machine and sending a person back in time to retrieve technology that is outdated even in the time period the time traveler arrives in? There is little to nothing made 100 years ago that we don't know how to reproduce. It's simply a question of cost vs. return. In the case of Titor's explanation, duplicating 1960's tech would be exponentially cheaper, easier, and faster than sending a guy back in time to retrieve it. They can build a time travel device but they can't duplicate a silly, primitive 1960's computer?
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Limitation of current technologies. They wouldn't invent a time machine to go back to retrieve something. They'd already have a time machine as a tool. You could not reproduce an IBM 5100 easier than you could time travel and retrieve one, presuming we are that close to time travel in our current timeline.

We need the system to “debug” various legacy computer programs in 2036. UNIX has a problem in 2038. - John Titor

The IBM 5100 did, indeed, contain functionality that was hidden from the public. At a time when most computers could only support the BASIC programming language, the IBM 5100 had the ability to emulate programs in both BASIC for system/3 and APL for system/370 (the “system” in this case refers to IBM mainframes). According to Bob Dubke, one of the IBM 5100 engineers, this function was hidden “because of worries about how [IBM’s] competition might use it.”

That piece of the story is verifiably correct.

Even if the function weren’t hidden, however, the general public, especially around 2000-2001, most likely had little idea that such a machine even existed. Whoever the individual posting as John Titor was, he knew his stuff.

So, if the UNIX timeout of 2038 is to be a serious problem, and if in 2036 we require the ability to “reverse engineer” or debug certain code to prevent a technological apocalypse, a 5100 could be our go-to machine.

SAUCE: IBM 5100, John Titor's Mission From The Future

Edit: What is the Year 2038 Problem? It's the same as the Y2K problem but on UNIX systems due to insufficient capacity of the storage method used. 32-bit decimal integer will "reset" in 2038.

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Mayhem said:
Rather than ask if any time travellers are here,

ask what is a Time traveller.
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A time traveler is someone who physically manipulates the fabric of space-time to warp through into another universe or what we call worldline. This movement could be forwards or backwards.

Wikipedia: Time travel is the concept of movement between certain points in time, analogous to movement between different points in space by an object or a person, typically using a hypothetical device known as a time machine. Time travel is a widely-recognized concept in philosophy and fiction.
 
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I mean for what reason?

Whether it was done with a group, or individual?

Whether time travel is just altering a humans properties so to speak to achieve such movement.
 

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