For me, the biggest argument that John Titor was a fake is that he never once mentioned 9/11. He never mentioned New York, 9/11, terrorism. It's one thing to forget a sports score 30 years ago, it's another thing to forget Pearl Harbor being attacked, or 9/11, or JFK being assassinated. Instead, Titor talked about events that never happened - the 2004 olympics being cancelled, a vCJD epidemic, a civil war ending with the Russians nuking the US. If John Titor was a real time traveler, how could he forget 9/11 when he "left" in march 2001, a few months before 9/11?
In Johns defense, he talked about going back in time and preventing Pearl Harbor being attacked, but in the process that allows the Germans to develop a nuclear bomb and use it against the US...
From Johns perspect, 9/11 was an event that started a chain of reactions that caused a corrupt government to fall. Without 9/11, maybe in John's world a civil war would have never happened, and the corrupt government would still be in power...
If this is the case - Titor intentionally didnt mention 9/11 because he wanted it to happen so it set in motion events that ultimately led to events he talked about - maybe john decided to come public not to warn us about 9/11, but instead of warn us of events in this decade.
Instead of talking about the 2004 olympics being cancelled, maybe he was talking about the 2014 russian olympics being cancelled. Russia, after all, in johns stories is the savior that bombs the US Federal govt causing John's rebels to win.
Instead of talking about a vCJD epidemic in the 2000's, maybe he meant this decade.
Instead of being born in 1998, maybe he was born in 2008 with a civil war starting this decade.
The picture john paints does not match the 2000's at all. But if you re-read everything he said and compare it to today, he's very accurately talking about today.
He talks about selfish people who wouldnt stop on a highway to help a stranded motorist - that's the tea party. Just today there were articles that Republicans want to eliminate food stamps.
He talks about olympics being cancelled - that's the 2014 olympics, being cancelled either over anti gay laws recently passed in Russia, or the US boycotting the Russian olympics over Syria.
He talks about a civil war based on a government giving people security over freedom incorrectly judging what people want. That's the government since 9/11 spying on americans in the name of security.
He talks about a pandemic caused by tainted food supplies caused by large companies. That's today with the rich and corporations causing the FDA to allow food imported from China.
He talks about bad leadership causing a vacuum in the middle east causing arab countries to be more aggressive towards Isreal. Just today on the news i saw a report that Turkey has shot down a helicopter in Syria, something they would never do but feel emboldened with the outcome in Syria - "Analysts said Monday's downing of the Syrian helicopter could presage a shift where Ankara takes an increasingly confrontational stance against Syria just as Washington has de-escalated its own policy."
In short, if you re-read all of Titors posts, he is not trying to divert disaster in 2001. Instead he's trying to prepare us for the mindset that leads to WWIII.
The signs are obvious what's going to happen. You dont need to be a time traveler to see Johns perspective, or to see the chain of events in front of us leading to a world war. In 2001 i would have thought Titor was a complete lune. But looking at the world today it's like he's moderating current events. The country is splitting apart and Washington is so incompetent nothing seems to stop it. If i was Titor, maybe i would have said nothing about 9/11 too, let the events happen.
In Johns defense, he talked about going back in time and preventing Pearl Harbor being attacked, but in the process that allows the Germans to develop a nuclear bomb and use it against the US...
From Johns perspect, 9/11 was an event that started a chain of reactions that caused a corrupt government to fall. Without 9/11, maybe in John's world a civil war would have never happened, and the corrupt government would still be in power...
If this is the case - Titor intentionally didnt mention 9/11 because he wanted it to happen so it set in motion events that ultimately led to events he talked about - maybe john decided to come public not to warn us about 9/11, but instead of warn us of events in this decade.
Instead of talking about the 2004 olympics being cancelled, maybe he was talking about the 2014 russian olympics being cancelled. Russia, after all, in johns stories is the savior that bombs the US Federal govt causing John's rebels to win.
Instead of talking about a vCJD epidemic in the 2000's, maybe he meant this decade.
Instead of being born in 1998, maybe he was born in 2008 with a civil war starting this decade.
The picture john paints does not match the 2000's at all. But if you re-read everything he said and compare it to today, he's very accurately talking about today.
He talks about selfish people who wouldnt stop on a highway to help a stranded motorist - that's the tea party. Just today there were articles that Republicans want to eliminate food stamps.
He talks about olympics being cancelled - that's the 2014 olympics, being cancelled either over anti gay laws recently passed in Russia, or the US boycotting the Russian olympics over Syria.
He talks about a civil war based on a government giving people security over freedom incorrectly judging what people want. That's the government since 9/11 spying on americans in the name of security.
He talks about a pandemic caused by tainted food supplies caused by large companies. That's today with the rich and corporations causing the FDA to allow food imported from China.
He talks about bad leadership causing a vacuum in the middle east causing arab countries to be more aggressive towards Isreal. Just today on the news i saw a report that Turkey has shot down a helicopter in Syria, something they would never do but feel emboldened with the outcome in Syria - "Analysts said Monday's downing of the Syrian helicopter could presage a shift where Ankara takes an increasingly confrontational stance against Syria just as Washington has de-escalated its own policy."
In short, if you re-read all of Titors posts, he is not trying to divert disaster in 2001. Instead he's trying to prepare us for the mindset that leads to WWIII.
The signs are obvious what's going to happen. You dont need to be a time traveler to see Johns perspective, or to see the chain of events in front of us leading to a world war. In 2001 i would have thought Titor was a complete lune. But looking at the world today it's like he's moderating current events. The country is splitting apart and Washington is so incompetent nothing seems to stop it. If i was Titor, maybe i would have said nothing about 9/11 too, let the events happen.
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