Three John Titor's On This Site

[Liberty]

LOL! John Titor said "Maybe I should tell you about an earthquake in Peru." Maybe Ren should tell us about an eruption in Chile! Toche Ren! To Titorite--- I was talking about living in Chicago today. You can't go anywhere in Chicago without being the watchful eyes of the police. The cameras are so sensitive that they can see the hairs on your arm. Also, Titor did predict the earthquake in Peru.(8.1)2001.

I have questions like most of us!

1) Describe farmers that become generals

2)Damage to a pyrimid

3) 1 militia battle

4)CIA special unit dealing with time travel if any (if known)

5) You mentioned FEMA camps!

6) Going back to meet yourself

7) Describe a mission that really blew your mind

8) Ever met an older TT that was just old and real COOL!

9) Does the current administration in the white house know about time travel today?

Sorry for being greedy! But that's me!

 

[titorite]

To be more specific , what titor actually said verbatim was "I might even decide to tell you about an earthquake in Peru but then people that would have died by chance will now live and vice versa."

He said those words explaining why he would not do "predictions" ... He no more predicted the Peru quake of today then he did years ago.

All he ever did was recount his past on a public forum for his own reasons .

As for the cameras, I know all about them... I moved to the rurals of the ozarks a few years back... Even towns with populations less than 1,000 have CCTVs on every stop light... it is horrible but it is what it is and it shall only become more prevalent. All the same I feel the bigger threat to liberty are all these new UAVs... especially the spheres.

 

[Ren]

I'm not the John Titor of 2000. I'm the John Titor of 2011. We are not the same person. The guy that faxed Art Bell isn't even a clone of me. He is in my unit.

This is confusing I know, but I am the 0riginal John. The guy posting in 2000 was a specialist in the mechanics of the time machine. That is why he could give you formulas, physics and details. I'm a linguist and an interrogator as well as a computer specialist and hypnotist. We are two soldiers -- a part of the Titor Project.

 

[Ren]

Liberty! Good questions! Finally something that isn't about the lotto.

Liberty
"1) Describe farmers that become generals"

Now I realize that this is not a direct answer to your question but I would like to say that Mao murdered millions. I hate Communism and it isn't much different than U.S. Capitalism today. It is just that military leaders today will become the rich of tomorrow in a Communist system. I'm a Socialist. Not a radical. I just want health care insurance for all. I don't want welfare either. I want fair workfare. I want families to be helped when they need it but never coddled. Right now families are being abused and many of us in the U.S. perceive them all to be lazy.

"2)Damage to a pyrimid"

Again, not a direct answer, but "parting of the Red Sea" is a very important warning. You know, when Egyptians died in a massive flood.

3) 1 militia battle

The U.S. Civil War 2 is mostly a standoff war. Americans today aren't interested in killing each other. It is when we start fighting over water and land that things get ugly.

4)CIA special unit dealing with time travel if any (if known)

The CIA is a U.S. Army job. Right now, the time travel program is just focusing on capturing historical information from objects. It will expand once CERN's discovery of faster than light particles is fully understood. Right now it is understood that Relativity Theory accounts for 60 "units of time" and that the particles are really traveling the speed of light. CERN is spending a lot of money right now conducting further experiments to prove this. Yet Relativity is part of why things can travel faster than light. This understanding will lead to teleportation, time-travel, warp drive, etc.. It will bring us to the scientific limits of our imagination.

5) You mentioned FEMA camps!

Yeah, but the plan won't work. People will exit the cities and disallow themselves from being herded. Over half of all women in the U.S. now carry firearms. The government should fear the people, the people have nothing to fear.

6) Going back to meet yourself

Alarming. My 74 year old self said nothing to me. He appeared in a public place and I saw him at about 20 paces. He seemed to be speaking to me telepathically I assume with some technology. I still do not know what was communicated consciously.

7) Describe a mission that really blew your mind

In Mesa, Arizona. A man and his son came to visit my office where I was instructing people on the use of Internet applications. He said he needed a BASIC program for a special helicopter that he was testing at a near by Air Force base. I then understood that he was yet another from the future either ailen, part-alien or completely human. He looked human. But again, he was telling me one thing and telepathically telling me something else.

8) Ever met an older TT that was just old and real COOL!

There is a guy looking for John Titor and filming it that looks like a younger version of me.

9) Does the current administration in the white house know about time travel today?

No. But they know it will be possible someday. They know that history can be imprinted on objects such as trees. This has to do with time and space.

Obama knows that there is a suicide nuke threat. He knows there is a flooding threat. He knows that he may have to move to the center of the U.S. September 11th 2011 was a terrible time for the U.S. but the media blacked it all out for good reason. I don't blame them. That's all I will say other than old nuke reactors should be closely guarded.

 

[Rosco..Jones]

Ren, I am fairly new to John Titor and the Titor Project, but it has caught my interest. Unfortunately, I missed the 10/27 discussion.
My major focus has been on time, multidimensional reality and the physics of the non-physical.
I view past, present, future, and alternate timelines as all occurring simultaneously, from a 4D perspective.

I know your are not as well versed on the physics of TT as some, but this may fall under general knowledge.
My question for you is regarding my perspective on those who ask for a winning lottery number.
All possible lottery numbers are drawn with every drawing.
The trick is to move yourself to a (not "the") timeline where the number on your ticket is selected.
Q Would this be a valid statement?

By the way, just discussing the possibility that you may be a part of the Titor Project, increases the probability of it being a reality.

 

[Ren]

All timelines are the same until someone enters the past.
This act splits the timeline into roots.
If according to Chaos Theory, I do nothing which alters the selection of lottery numbers, we may assume that all lottery numbers in all fractured timelines are the same.
You are also correct about the probability that I am a part of the Titor Project increases the more we discuss it.
It also increases the chances that time-travelers will use my supposed "hoax" to inject real prophetic warnings without it fracturing the timeline further.

Let me tell you some things that I have noticed that have yet to be explained.
I have GPS functions that continue to work in this timeline though there are no satellites in the air that feed this device information. It could be that my GPS will receive information from any legacy GPS system in the past. But I was not informed of such a feature.

I have also noticed strange things in my interactions with people. Some people believe me to be a non-native English speaker because my grammar and syntax is from the future. I have been informed more than once that I do not speak or type normally. I use words that other people don't. I express things in ways that others do not. Some people become extremely nervous around me when they initially meet me then warm up to me after I assure them that I mean them no harm. They seem to subconsciously ignore a lot of what I say as If I do not belong here with them. I also sometimes seem condescending and superior when it is not my intention.

If I do convince someone that I am able to accurately predict what is about to happen, they never leave me alone. They feel that I can ease their fears and offer them a way to survive. I need only speak. Yet, I tell them that they aren't doing what they need to be doing. You need to be more sympathetic towards people not working. You need to be more vocal against the elite who do not care if you starve and die.

I promised a manifesto when I returned.
It says,
Take all your money out of U.S. banks and put your money in a Credit Union. That is the best way to get back at them.

Demand that your government give a job to anyone who wants a job even if it is just doing clean-up or neighborhood watch.

Demand fair wages that meet the cost of living. Mandatory health insurance for all taken from pay. Don't trust business and private companies to provide health insurance.

Think of the children.

Demand that Christians face the history of the Christian religion and stop believing in a fictional being invented by Constantine.
The real Jesus was a scientist and doctor. The real Jesus was a unifier of politics, religion and society. Apollonius --> which some Bible scholars have named The Destroyer of All Things. I say that the destroyer is the bringer of utopia.

It is said that Apollonius wrote Revelation.

I have also received a spiritual sign.

This is how this riddle goes.
When Pluto's Twin is found.
The Goddess of Discord Eris shall she be named.
They call her Nibiru which also means the Destroyer and Apollyon.
As Apollo has a twin,
this shall represent the new science of time-travel and teleportation.
And Jesus shall return and be revealed to be Apollonius.
And the people will understand the true message of Christianity.
Which is to unite all peaceful religions as a science of faith.

For Nature is God who does not care if we are innocent babies or guilty murderers.
Nature will kill us if we are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

But a part of Nature that does care about us are friends and family that have gone before.
They form the angelic hosts that guide us and try to protect us.
Together they form a Gnostic god.

 

[titorite]

I'm not the John Titor of 2000. I'm the John Titor of 2011. We are not the same person. The guy that faxed Art Bell isn't even a clone of me. He is in my unit.

No he isn't. You're not the same, their are no clones, John Titor is not in your "unit" and that was a gross pun on your part.

and hypnotist.

REARLY?!?!? Amateur or Registered? What types of hypnotism do you practice? Clinical or exhibition?

All timelines are the same until someone enters the past.
This act splits the timeline into roots.

That is a contradictory statement. If all the timelines are the same then their are not multiple timelines. Also the John explained it better..you just didn't pay enough attention to his story and CHA-CHA is not gonna be able to help ya, WORLDLINES. Their are worldlines. It isn't timetravel as much as it is worldline travel. The further you get from the original the more the divergence increases. And apparently it should be kept it under 2% divergence. I could kinda begin to see the problem if one spot in history was chose for an object retrieval. Multiple people trying to his/the same spot....

It also increases the chances that time-travelers will use my supposed "hoax" to inject real prophetic warnings without it fracturing the timeline further.

That is a bad assumption on your part. In fact I should think it is only counter productive... And why bother? Time will unfold as it unfolds no matter what and what happens on one worldline may not happen to us. The real John Titor never predicted anything. he did not prophecy. He explained that over and over. All he ever did was recount his own personal history.

Sigh.... You know what, I am gonna start my own thread.

 

[Himalayan Hermit]

I'm not the John Titor of 2000. I'm the John Titor of 2011. We are not the same person. The guy that faxed Art Bell isn't even a clone of me. He is in my unit.

This is confusing I know, but I am the 0riginal John. The guy posting in 2000 was a specialist in the mechanics of the time machine. That is why he could give you formulas, physics and details. I'm a linguist and an interrogator as well as a computer specialist and hypnotist. We are two soldiers -- a part of the Titor Project.

Ok..let's go with Ren for now, guys so I'll ask a meaningful question (hopefully) that he can answer.
Ren - are you saying that the fellow back in 2000 and YOU now & here are 2 Biologically different persons (sans the John Titor Pen Name?).
I mean 2 TOTALLY different persons (not time-line clones, younger self, etc) who NOW exist together in your work-unit in 2036 at the same time??

 

[Rosco..Jones]

All timelines are the same until someone enters the past.
This act splits the timeline into roots.
If according to Chaos Theory, I do nothing which alters the selection of lottery numbers, we may assume that all lottery numbers in all fractured timelines are the same.

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I'm very disappointed.
I may be misunderstanding your, "All timelines are the same until someone enters the past."
I'm hoping your intention was that different timelines continue as usual, but the introduction of a time traveler into a probable past will cause a branching of a new timeline that varies from the original.

And yes, I am familiar with Chaos Theory. I agree that you have no influence on the lottery draw. But your, "all lottery numbers in all fractured timelines are the same." needs clarification also. Again, I may be misinterpreting what you are saying. (see note below) What I think you intended was not that the same number is drawn in all possible realities, but that all the possibilities do occur without any influence from your being in our present reality.

If this is the case, you really need to work on your communication skills.
It could be that different way of talking, you were talking about.
Please advise if I understand what you were saying.

Too be truthful, I don't know if you ever answered my earlier question.
Is it true to say, All possible lottery numbers are drawn with every drawing and the winners we see just happen to be in a timeline where their number is drawn? Yes or No?

Looking forward to your response.

Note: You may think you know what I said, but what I meant is not what you heard.

For a short many-worlds (1:23) view on fractured time:
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-04/1/source-code-animation

 

[Ren]

Ok..let's go with Ren for now, guys so I'll ask a meaningful question (hopefully) that he can answer.
Ren - are you saying that the fellow back in 2000 and YOU now & here are 2 Biologically different persons (sans the John Titor Pen Name?).
I mean 2 TOTALLY different persons (not time-line clones, younger self, etc) who NOW exist together in your work-unit in 2036 at the same time??

Yes. We're different people.