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Ok Ren no worries. Be cool my friend
Ok Ren no worries. Be cool my friend
Correction Dr. Vodka, There is 1 world trade center now, and a hole in the ground where a building once stood. Nice work John Thomas. I did not see this one coming.The WTC was knocked down in our own timeline. It was built, it existed , it was destroyed.
It is not clear what the 1998 fax is talking about. He appears to be talking about a subtle change where "a skycraper" never existed in the first place.
What does a time traveller have to fear about being arrested? If he knows when he is to be arrested he can make sure he is somewhen else.
Are you ren1999 who claimed to be John Titor?
As you can plainly see, John did not claim that CERN "discovers" time travel in 2001. Merely that the basics for its development happens there, in about a year (2001). As I am sure you and others reading these words know, scientific discovery is based on the discoveries of previous work. There is also much more to this statement that implies a great deal more than the scope of this post would allow, but suffice it to say for now that your statement that JT "predicted" that time travel was "discovered" at CERN is in error."November 02, 2000
The basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first "time machine" built by GE...."
If you'll notice, he claimed that the energy used to power the machine is created at (what many take to be) CERN, he did not claim black holes in this statement.November 25, 2000
"...The energy stored in the singularity is used to create the distortion fields. That energy is created in a particle accelerator...
In this statement, John does claim that the microsingularities are created at (what many take to be) CERN. But he never did say CERN, did he? I explore this quite a bit in COATT and discovered some very interesting things that led me to a new avenue of investigation. But this is out of scope for this post.01-31-2001
"...The source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that were created, captured and cleaned at a much larger and "circular" facility..."
This is one example of a prediction, presented as a prediction (statement + date) that failed. As the other "failed prediction" made by Titor, this one is extremely interesting and is, technically, a "failed prediction," but "failed" on purpose.November 07, 2000
There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe
Titor is a bit unclear in his statement here. He does not say that WACO type events will begin in year x. He makes two statements, one is about the civil war in 2004 and he makes a separate statement describing the waco-type events. It is assumed that the waco events he is describing is directly a result of, or cause for, the civil war in the US. This would be a fair assumption, but an assumption, nonetheless.January 31, 2001
The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII
29 January 2001
This is the only other example of a prediction (event + date) that failed. There is a great deal more of interest in this statement than what is apparent and it is not necessary to go into it here, but I will accept that yes, this is an example of a failed prediction.As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040
You are welcome, though my interest extends only to combating false conventional wisdom and lazy assumptions presented as fact.Temporal Recon, thank you for your in depth reply and your interest in my posts.
Funny choice of words, considering the topicActually though it has come a bit too late.
Believe? Are we to assume your belief is not based on evidence? This would be understandable, especially since a great many people believe John was real, even without the evidence to back them up. Their conclusions are just as specious as the contrary position.For the record, Whoever he was I don't believe he was a real time traveller.
You were not the only intended recipient of that post.From now on I intend just to post about time travel theory and the human aspects and possible consequences of it, which I find exciting . I look forward hopefully to talking to you on some of those posts instead ?
Correction Dr. Vodka, There is 1 world trade center now, and a hole in the ground where a building once stood. Nice work John Thomas. I did not see this one coming.The WTC was knocked down in our own timeline. It was built, it existed , it was destroyed.
It is not clear what the 1998 fax is talking about. He appears to be talking about a subtle change where "a skycraper" never existed in the first place.
What does a time traveller have to fear about being arrested? If he knows when he is to be arrested he can make sure he is somewhen else.
Are you ren1999 who claimed to be John Titor?
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