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The evangelic churches have female priests. the Catholic women protested against the laws. The protest was called Maria 2.0. but the church cannaot change it so easily because the vatican has something against it. I think the reason is they would admit that the scriptures are wrong.

Merkel (our leader) ignored it as always and as she does with nearly every topic. but I think she is not Catholic anyway.

On reformation day (I think 500 day after Luther ) some Muslims made similar demands on equal rights also for non-Muslims on the same place as Luther.. But other Muslims around the world either ignored it or call them Non-believers.
I think the reason is the same as it was with the Catholic church. They cannot admit that something in their scriptures is wrong.

Heil. I hope that greating is appropriate.

Some Christian sects do have female priests but they draw the line at female bishops.

You seem to know that women have a ways to go before most of the mainstream religions stop their misogynous ways.

As to Merkel, FMPOV, she is showing intelligence and good morals by not accepting Christianity as they are a fascist religion, as is Islam, and even helped Hitler's top brass escape justice after WWII. Not to mention even helping in the extermination camps in the Eastern European nations. The Vatican was also Hitler's bank.

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DL
 

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That was a stylistic device called in your language tautology.

Let us look at the context.
I kindly ignored that you lied. I dont know why you have done it. probaby out of stupidness or wickedness.


First I can pass on whatever I want, even if I dont know what is in it. That makes somebody not a fool. I even explained why i did it.

Second your obvious lie against Christians. There is not something as "the Christian". Christians have different beliefs.
I could also instantly called you a fool (how you would call yourself) because you did this generalization. That would be your discussion level.



I said nothing about a majority. That would only say a fool like you.

So you claim it as a fact. If you have a survey (worldwide not only the US) than post it.. But I think it is the other way around that the majority of Christians support both. Usually atheistic regions are less liberal (at least in my country) and here the people support both homosexual and women rights with a Christian majority in the country.

First rate remarks..Keep `em coming :LOL:
 

alpha centauri

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Some Christian sects do have female priests but they draw the line at female bishops.
ALso here, you are wrong.

Automatic translation:
On April 4, 1992, Maria Jepsen was elected the world's first Evangelical Lutheran bishop in Michel, Hamburg. At that time she was 47 years old - now she is 75 and has been retiring for almost ten years.
source: Bischöfinnen

Edit: That is not even true in the US:

automatic translation (The automatic translation did not get the sex right, you have to add female). Look at the picture in the link:
Emancipation from European roots
US Lutherans Introduce First African American Bishop
The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, shaped by German and Scandinavian immigration, is the first to introduce an African-American bishop to office. This also frees you a little from the identity that comes from Europe.
same source: Emanzipation von den europäischen Wurzeln
 
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Gnostic Christian

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ALso here, you are wrong.

Automatic translation:

source: Bischöfinnen

Edit: That is not even true in the US:

automatic translation (The automatic translation did not get the sex right, you have to add female). Look at the picture in the link:

same source: Emanzipation von den europäischen Wurzeln

Thanks for this.

My last look stopped at the Church of England that, even though the Queen is the head of the church, they continue to deny their female priests a bishops office.

There are the odd other Christian sects, Rucicrutions, if I recall correctly, who also have female bishops.

The more to the left a religion leans, the better it is, from a moral POV.

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DL
 

alpha centauri

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That is only the Lutheran church. I dont think it is that vast in the US. I found something about the Angelican church. They had a female bishop in the US in 1989.

They also seem to be the first nation with a female bishop.
1924: Mount Sinai Holy Church of America- Ida B. Robinson served as founder and first presiding bishop


My last look stopped at the Church of England that, even though the Queen is the head of the church, they continue to deny their female priests a bishops office.

There are the odd other Christian sects, Rucicrutions, if I recall correctly, who also have female bishops.

The more to the left a religion leans, the better it is, from a moral POV.

What is left in your opinion? Communist states are usually surveillance states.

Religions were discriminated in the GDR (German Democratic Republic) and I think the same was true in other Communist states or even more than there.
 

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What is left in your opinion? Communist states are usually surveillance states.

Religions were discriminated in the GDR (German Democratic Republic) and I think the same was true in other Communist states or even more than there.

Check what Hitler had put on belt buckles for his troops. God is with us.

Germany was Christian at that time and the Vatican bank was eager to be and was Hitler's bank. Like Germany at that time, our mainstream religions are fascist.

As to purveyance, the last I heard was that the U.S. led the way by monitoring millions of cell phone conversations.

At the end of the day, none of us live in democracies or communist countries.

We all live in oligarchies and nations are all pointing to each other and accusing only the other country of being oligarchic.

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DL
 

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Check what Hitler had put on belt buckles for his troops. God is with us.

Germany was Christian at that time and the Vatican bank was eager to be and was Hitler's bank. Like Germany at that time, our mainstream religions are fascist.

As to purveyance, the last I heard was that the U.S. led the way by monitoring millions of cell phone conversations.

At the end of the day, none of us live in democracies or communist countries.

We all live in oligarchies and nations are all pointing to each other and accusing only the other country of being oligarchic.

Regards
DL

Are you trying to say that all the SS fanatics were Christians? o_O(n)..
 

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Are you trying to say that all the SS fanatics were Christians? o_O(n)..

No. I have no idea as to how many where.

Many theists lie about their affiliations. In some countries, the vast majority claim a religion yet only a small minority ever go to church even once a year.

All I pointed out above was that their uniforms had God is with us as an emblem.

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DL
 

alpha centauri

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Check what Hitler had put on belt buckles for his troops. God is with us.

Germany was Christian at that time and the Vatican bank was eager to be and was Hitler's bank. Like Germany at that time, our mainstream religions are fascist.

Hitler didnt view himself as Christian. Historians are pretty sure of that.

Quotes from wikipedia:
Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs have been a matter of debate. Historians regard Hitler as having anti-Christian[1] and anti-atheist views.
Hitler, wrote Speer, viewed Christianity as the wrong religion for the "Germanic temperament":[44] Speer wrote that Hitler would say: "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the fatherland as the highest good? The Islam too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[47] Speer also wrote of observing in Hitler "quite a few examples", and that he held a negative view toward Himmler and Rosenberg's mystical notions.

Martin Bormann, who was serving as Hitler's private secretary, persuaded Hitler to allow a team of specially picked officers to record in shorthand his private conversations for posterity.[50] Between 1941 and 1944, Hitler's words were recorded in transcripts now known as Hitler's Table Talk.[51] The transcripts concern not only Hitler's views on war and foreign affairs, but also his characteristic attitudes on religion, culture, philosophy, personal aspirations, and his feelings towards his enemies and friends.[52] Speer noted in his memoirs that Bormann relished recording any harsh pronouncements made by Hitler against the church: "there was hardly anything he wrote down more eagerly than deprecating comments on the church".[45] Within the transcripts, Hitler speaks of Christianity as "absurdity" and "humbug" founded on "lies" with which he could "never come personally to terms."[53]

"Hitler's hostility to Christianity reached new heights, or depths, during the war;" his source for this was the 1953 English translation of Table Talk.[59] Table Talk has the dictator often voicing stridently negative views of Christianity, such as: "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity."[60]


At the end of the day, none of us live in democracies or communist countries.

We all live in oligarchies and nations are all pointing to each other and accusing only the other country of being oligarchic.
I know enough people, who lived in Communist countries. I dont want that. Socialism is ok. The problem is,that this is against the competition aspect of the countries (capitalism). The best form would be a wordwide kind of loose socialism. So that the basic needs of all humans are satisfied.

The oligarchies can be fought with the abolishment of the banking secrecy. The rich people (for example all billionaires) shall pay for the poor. So everybody is happy except those rich billionaires. But that doesnt matter. And the basic need of everybody are met.

I am supporting the abolishment of the banking secrecy. So the rich people can be critisiced more easily to spend more money. But that also has to be worldwide.
 

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Hitler didnt view himself as Christian. Historians are pretty sure of that.

Quotes from wikipedia:









I know enough people, who lived in Communist countries. I dont want that. Socialism is ok. The problem is,that this is against the competition aspect of the countries (capitalism). The best form would be a wordwide kind of loose socialism. So that the basic needs of all humans are satisfied.

The oligarchies can be fought with the abolishment of the banking secrecy. The rich people (for example all billionaires) shall pay for the poor. So everybody is happy except those rich billionaires. But that doesnt matter. And the basic need of everybody are met.

I am supporting the abolishment of the banking secrecy. So the rich people can be critisiced more easily to spend more money. But that also has to be worldwide.

The tax system is what creates poverty. Governments can and do set minimum income laws.

They just do whatever their oligarch owners tell them to do.

That aside, you seem to be focusing on the negative, while ignoring, or not being aware of just how fast we are ending poverty world wide.

I checked the stats 10 years ago and at that time, in the previous 20 years, we pulled a full billion people over the poverty line, and they had estimated that we would do the same for another billion in the next 20 years.

As far as I know, those projections are still at work and poverty is being reduced.

As to Hitler and Christianity.

He was quite an evil guy and only a fool would believe anything he said about his beliefs.

Germany is a Christian nation now, just as it was during WWII.

Regards
DL
 

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