Re: John Titor Is A Hoax Exclusive Report
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div>
It's easy to think that you have proved that the information from Virtualgirl has no weight or bearing. What have you offered to prove that Titor is NOT a hoax?[/b]
Titor's story has stood the test of time against various frivolous and even serious attempts to debunk it. "VirtualGirl" presented a very frivolous attempt here but acted as if her mind was made up, and everyone else's should be too. ("Now is the time to put the old dog to rest.")
Failure to debunk is not proof however that the story is NOT a hoax, it is merely failure to debunk, and Titor's story remains falsifiable. It hasn't been falsified nor is there conclusive proof yet for the opposite case that Titor was genuine. But if Steven Hawking for example had written a paper that incorporated Titor's plausible design and operating principles for a time machine, it would be taken very seriously in the scientific community and somebody would almost certainly be assembling the hardware and software for it already, in preparation for the production of microsingularities that many scientists fully expect to be created at CERN soon. Titor's time machine design and operating principles alone are compelling but not conclusive evidence of his veracity.
As all previous attempts to debunk Titor's story have failed, and there is no rock-solid conclusive proof at this time that his story was true, we are all left with the uncertainty of waiting to see if his predictions come true. Certainly the occurrence or non-occurrence of global nuclear war in 2015 will settle the issue once and for all, but we would probably all like to know sooner than that. Titor predicted that the global nuclear war would be preceded by an American police state and civil war, and very many people see the beginnings of a police state emerging already under the extreme right-wing leadership of George Bush Junior. None of us could have seriously imagined in 2000 that America would be operating concentration camps at several places around the world and incarcerating people indefinitely without due process in violation of every American value and principle of justice, but concentration camps and police states do go hand in hand, do they not? None of us could have seriously imagined in 2000 that a gross miscarriage of American values and principles would be passed into law (with the Orwellian name 'Patriot Act') to vastly expand police powers of invading people's privacy and kicking doors down, but Titor did tell us something like this was going to happen, and here we are with the fact of it on the books in Washington. Titor even suggested back then that the falsehood of WMDs in Iraq would be BS to whip up people's fears so they'd support the next war, and who among us would have guessed in 2000 that such a disgraceful thing would or could be done by an American president? The apparent emergence of an American police state with such specific examples being true is an awfully amazing prediction that nobody else did predict or would have predicted in the year before 9/11/2001. Since it is possible that someone could have simply guessed these things would happen, they are not conclusive evidence but they are compelling evidence in favor of Titor's story being true.
A reasonable person cannot reject Titor's story in the face of such compelling evidence. There are many proto-Fascist right-wingers who will argue otherwise, but they are not reasonable people, they are the ones in favor of a goose-stepping police state in the first place. Are you in favor of an American police state, "StarLord"? Are you in favor of America operating concentration camps, murdering and torturing people, lying about terrorist intentions in the form of WMDs to justify foreign invasions, 1,600+ American soldiers dead so far and unknown tens of thousands of dead Afghanis and Iraqis including many women and children killed all because of George Bush Junior's lies and misadventures? When Hitler and his henchmen did these exact same kinds of things they were eventually tried and punished for their war crimes.
What do you think, "Starlord", was Hitler misunderstood? Was Hitler really a good guy, a patriot whose concentration camps and wars of aggression and taking away people's rights and liberties were really all good and constructive things for Germany and the rest of the world? Just wondering what you think about that, because I see great similarities today between George Bush Junior and his policies and Hitler and his policies. And I know I am not alone in this view, the only difference is that Hitler got farther along than Bush has so far. Titor's story merely puts the emphasis on so far.
For perspective you might want to consider another question similar to yours about Titor ("What have you offered to prove that Titor is NOT a hoax?"). Let's say it's 1935 and someone going by the name of John Titor has told you that Hitler will go on to become the biggest mass murderer in history by systematically exterminating millions of his countrymen, that Hitler would turn Germany into a police state and threaten the rest of the world with unprovoked wars of aggression, what would you offer to prove that John Titor is a hoax?
Regards,
Karl S.
http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com
